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De memoria a la justicia | Dr Efraim Zuroff | TEDxColegioHebreoTarbut


once noticed everybody I thought it
actually opened myself arrested boom but
I soon realized step quite late in in
any effect I want to thank the tablet
school for the privilege of coming here
addressing you tonight I think it’s
extremely important that an event like
this you have at least one speaker from
Israel today so people not in fact most
learners in the specialized cells
but today with events about mention in
fact that is a I think the people that
have to live longer there are so many
workers out there right now and through
those days
that letter was a great privilege of
finding exposure three men who served
access to the sea who once there have
mercy
Bobby are as effective as tend to
enhance service a 21-9 people thirty
three thousand seven hundred seventy one
Jews were murdered by the murders who
served in that unit alive and well
living each other so the fight goes on
but there is also think that perhaps
this is already something that’s not
really important anymore
and of little value so what I’d like to
talk to you about tonight is to explain
to you why even at this point in time
it’s extremely important to do whatever
we can to bring to justice the
perpetrators the Holocaust first point
is that the passage of time in no way
diminishes the guilt of the killers fact
that these murders were committed local
drug doesn’t change the fact that the
murders took place had these people have
been brought to justice for about twenty
years ago perhaps there were any less
skepticism but the factor in is that the
fact of the matter is that the crime
remains the crime and until these people
are brought to justice justice is not
second point is that old age should not
protect people who committed such a
heinous crimes
just because someone reaches the age of
19 it doesn’t turn a murderer or even a
mass murderer into a righteous Gentile
point number three and this is the point
that was always exercised by my mentor a
great hero of the Jewish people Simon
Wiesenthal and that is the application
that our generation owes to the victims
of the Nazis to the people who turn
innocent men women and children into
victims simply because they were
classified as enemies the right now
there is no hope of ever achieving
perfect perfect justice and it’s true
that we’re only bringing that token a
small percentage of the people committed
the crimes of the Holocaust injustice
but every one of these trials and every
one of these convictions and punishments
it’s a a reminder that these people must
face the crimes and we owe to the
victors when they ran the walls the
heroes prefer giving the gamma Jews take
revenge don’t allow our guests to go
unpunished
this is it’s the legacy another legacy
by Dwayne because the legacy of the
famous historian on top of who has been
taken out of his apartment recently
buried wrote his shine Jews right to
support the fact
so these two these two innocence
commands are with motivate us to be
people from work right now the history
accurate history end up in through in a
minute
and in a sense to take adjust remembers
the last point is that it’s a very
powerful message that we are still
looking for these people and trying to
help them accountable and this is
something I think has unique importance
because you know at the end of World War
two when the kids were liberated a very
wonderful phrase was quoting that race
was never again but the same truth is
everybody dates through the world with
primum of the people of the 21st century
we see that are unfortunately that is
not the case it’s true that has never
been another Shaw of harpists
the solar houses bdtravels believe in
terrible tragedies that are taking place
absolute the people wonder phrase
raiment became celebrated concentration
camps in Germany and Poland
and they came away the desired who will
never have to be done to make sure it
will happen again but that what happened
Samuel happened Piazza proposed in
Rwanda that’s more said the natural
predator and what the reach that these
needs took place this is my humble
opinion is because so little is done to
achieve justice in other if it has to be
clear that any person who commits crime
to this short will most likely patient
and looking at some hard will trust in
carried out at someone who he might be
closer ideologically the first question
ever go through these of her mind will
be well you know I’d really like to join
these people that could be such crimes
or going to pay for it
well I think it has to be clear your
patrons and it’ll pay for it dearly
another points is the fact of the
importance that these drugs playing and
despite its Holocaust denial and how
much discussion now I’m sure will go
with denials and asking people say
destroy didn’t happen or its scope is
greatly exaggerated etc but the good
news is that the fight it’s how it was
the Nile has been more or less one in
the Western world that doesn’t mean that
they will never be a person who will be
likely to strike the place but today
there is no mainstream normative
political or social organization that
expects out poster on the defeat of her
take early in all Bailey the black
London in the trial tablet fabulous that
was a tremendous victory Crusader it was
the most dangerous outpost and I America
was a person who started out is
legitimate starting a person full
charisma incredible talent and he was
basically two hundred pieces by people
at rich Evans of the professorship
anguish was one of the world’s greatest
experts on the shore of course situation
in the Arab world the Moslem world is
very different then you have a black
Holocaust denial and in some places is
he was financed and sponsored by the
government’s in other words many to
properly report the Iranian president in
a job so he goes our national colors
those there any people that is right
that happened I’m sure they’re just
simple people who might be believed such
a reality before helpless is the most
documented tragedy in human history
that’s exactly why were able to win the
fight in western world nearly the doings
of darkness that only ridden a penis
photographs films and the globus were
recording this is the testimonies of
survivors tens of thousands which passed
as we prepared to the unfortunate day
when it describes would have will not be
with us and still is to all the points
that I think very very importantly this
in this manner and how many if you
remember the trial of I didn’t know he
was on the world in fact many people say
this guy was not the creators of the
world
he was diesel processor so what God
really wants them precisely the
marihuana’s that since international was
read in the wake of the Holocaust the
defense of superior orders will scan
poorly rejected that’s not a sufficient
defense the psychics are an order from a
person of high rank is that water is
clearly illegal because courses which
Mesmer recent scenarios then that
quality not be a this will break that
were you have shared
is not for writing articles or even the
common actor so v15 the deputy commander
so long but he does have a shared
responsibility because there at least
that invokes the Holocaust will never
have reached the scope that they ought
to be reached so every one of these
people and every single level has share
that responsibility and it’ll our job to
hold the camera now one other
interesting aspect I was invited to a
question
this really is Memorial and district
Center and asked to address groups who
teaches because of all over the world to
learn how to teach to try to learn about
this room are various what were cleaned
up I had passion and I was against the
following person that deserves
so many years have passed since the end
of the show are the people committed the
crimes a practice sorry
so I will strengthen that question think
about how much information is available
about the Holocaust in the last 15-20
years how many books plays movies that
the Mexican is mentioned on the Internet
these people who were involved in these
crimes in those days could read
disinformation civility they can read
about the Holocaust they could say to
themselves you know what what we did
back then those days of course all the
people who were bringing to justice now
were very young in those days when we
were so young
that’s the helpless and you know what we
made a mistake we were young we were
we were brainwashed we thought the true
was the enemy
we thought we threw the patriotic state
now let me tell you the story just be
story back just from straw
one of the first furnace of Jews from
the Skamania took place the place will
be into this garage your partner 64-62
ish men were taken to this garage for
the sector’s town and were murdered in
two different ways some of them would be
into death by probe with biting you by
crowbars and the others next viable to
shut down their balance and the water
turned on to explore guest thunders and
these murders were watched by an
enormous crowd men women children
and as each one of these peoples being
murdered the crowd employed and at the
end but all that we were there lying
dead on the ground to lead to the garage
someone took out according to one
version someone took out an accordion
started playing Lithuanian national
anthem and all the crowd wanted the
question I asked the teachers when I
tell the story what is the connection
and the answer is super patriotism
extreme business was extremism in any
event the sentence that I’ve gotta tell
you is that in my experience I thought
you knew personally whooping us from all
and for many many people survived
different levels of education and
intelligence I am NOT capped at a single
case of an entrepreneur who ever
expressed that I can forget that ever
express any regret or remorse if
anything just ask
so I wanted to include too much store
story that I’m particularly proud about
the most important Nazi war criminal
pretty just amazing people shopping
wasn’t talked about that we can’t forget
settlements so I don’t know any
explosive you throw me Australia the
security Croatia meant built by
Croatians paint migrations in which at
least the practically a hundred thousand
serves chose Roma and enter fast
expressions were murdered and they were
murdered in the worst way possible with
the most a parable that was they were
individually there were no gas chambers
bullets daggers swords grenades you name
it in any event like many not superhuman
regurgitator rediscovery with the help
of africa Raza who’s the local market in
a journalist we said compact cameras at
the pilgrim to meet the survivors in the
Sarah box before he went to do front
shadows not such a purchased or shot
which comes to the door and you think Oh
Jacques yes you are the common activist
elements but shocked say yes so first of
all let’s stop there for a minute
usually when Nazis are about to be
exposed these two responses what is it’s
not me okay mistaken identity the other
buttons it’s me I didn’t do it
what is people shopping say it’s me and
I didn’t come a success much question
since we come in to me in sit down
answer some questions
sure why not Congress it says the missus
you will accommodate that when the worst
here secured what he has to say to
yourself
shocker says yes Emma Fox was of people
colony and everyone who was there every
country has different colonies like
jails and every person who’s here
deserves to be there so paparazzi says
listen you can’t fool me
I met the survivors and there is no
sufferer could elevate he told me about
the tour
the executions so shocked said this
buddy you don’t get it
the problem with that set of us was they
didn’t let us finish the truck
now one thing he says he said this more
than 60 years and ten settlements was
closed down as far as people shot it was
good certainty absolutely nothing had
changed and this is true of so many
lives so these are the last people on
earth we preserve any sympathy we’re not
bringing them to justice was an entire
old lady across the street when you
looked at those see frail old men and
women who deserve your sympathy think of
that in their youth when they devoted
all their energy and strength to killing
innocent men women and children so in
that context I think that the most
suitable way to include this this is a
TED talk and this one’s going to
conclude almost on time
okay is the story about psychic reason
for who was what when asked why he
returned his professions and hospitality
after the show he was very good on with
that so as we’ve all said the father
he’s not a very religious Jew but he
believes in the world to come and when
he survives the show our best way to
meet the victims and the first question
in the victims will as the survivors who
they know you’re the lucky ones
you survived what did you do their lives
Society said so what was said I was a
lawyer
none of us as a teacher I did this I did
that I saw a reason who say and didn’t forget you thank you very much
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