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Condamnées hier, capables aujourd’hui | Audrey Guiller | TEDxCelsa


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every Friday game spell of jail
around 5 pm I leave the biggest
detention center for women from
France in Rennes
I just spent the afternoon with
women who attacked women who
have scammed women who have killed and I
just spent a nice afternoon
to get to her I decline my
name I give my ID card I
pass a gate a barrier
I put all my stuff in a
locker
I pass under a portico as at
the airport there are airlock beeps
keys of the gatekeepers in uniform
all over
I am a journalist and I lead the
citadel citadel writing this is a
quarterly magazine that is fully
written and illustrated by women
detained in long sentences
all that behind bars when we
offered to participate in this project
I admit that I was expecting
meet sad women and
agressive
you hear you hear that voice
in my head they said these women
can only be sad and aggressive
then I thought my mission
would be to occupy them
they have a painful ugly past
table where they now have that
no one wants to live with love and
a distant future a certain taboo too
so I went home to entertain them
to make them forget the time our
project was to last one year
three issues it’s been six years since I
I’ve seen about sixty
editors and six years where I learned
what to do this issue do this magazine that
does not serve them at all to forget the time
on the contrary it serves them to
reclaim their present six years where
I learned that every day we have the
right to become someone else
stopping to leave the past all
conditioned in our writing there are
computers but there is no
internet there is no phone
there are no live info channels there
there is no output a report
possible no camera
before I would have said low so there is no
of newspaper we do with what we have
we start from women writers
writing conference
I ask them what is
is interested right now what is this
motivates you who is unworthy of you
what makes you angry about what
you want to talk
Morning bettina with a ponytail
she loves literature and zumba
bettina she wants an interview and
marina of encausse
about her novels helena she she
wants to make a topic about alcoholism at
feminine and hate is an excellent
grumpy and it’s an excellent poet v
iata came to interview djamel for
laughing she says because here her life
quickly becomes morbid foot to 6m so if
we could interview nice guys
because left to bring back
people in prison to interview them
as much as it’s nice guys and
iata and the cash but watch her
is just right when these women will have to
look in her who they are at
present they produce
valid information
they produce information
unpublished an article on the conditions
working in detention at because he
must work and earn a crust
prison an article about the babies of the
nursery of the penitentiary center in
because there are babies who live and
who are born in prison to write for
draw these women is thoughtful she
listen to them listen their momentum she listens
their desires and when they do that to me
I see them becoming the author of whom they
are because she takes over the reins of
their lives imagine imagine that your
day is scheduled by someone
other than you rise morning
to lift activities work report with
your family workshops medical care
imagine your schedule it escapes you
completely like that happens to children
well you understand that for her to choose
to be in control of a process
an indecent article from a to z lead him
to the end at their own pace
it’s a lot of value so when
she writes bettina she makes herself happy
when she writes v iata and searched
digs and discovers when she writes
Helena we loved his anger from a distance
thérèse therese to the elected very style
sensitive to the planet and animals
she interviewed stone rabhi thérèse
and results as his citadel has me
allowed me to understand that I existed that
I was able to fetch
information in me good ideas that
I was able to express them
things that I had buried since
a long time and me what I love is
how the characters the people
interviewed the handsome guys but not that
how those interviewed them
react to that when she gets back into
detention they are like you like
me and that’s normal she had put the
trapped in a box because of
their past and when she sees them it’s
when people see them smart
enthusiastic bath and stand out a little
rang and disney was waiting for these women
it could be my neighbor that could
to be my sister it could be me
when she reappropriates who they are
in the present the editors I see he
also happens something else I see
that she accepts their present as it
is an article on how we keep
links with his children when we see them
never an article on how to tinker
a Christmas gift of recovery from
nothing because we have nothing on hand
they write black on white in the
magazine that theirs today
that’s it and it’s not a mouse
accepted are present it’s not nothing
means we accept our past
agrees to be responsible and it wants
to say that we accept that for the
future do not do it we have the choice
we have the choice to become again or
become proud of yourself when it starts
the workshop the editors they say
all a year but I do not know
draw
oh no but I do not know I do not know
not write I do not know how to do you
hear you hear that little voice
in their head that they at bhp no one of
bad tattoo trigger to break everything
and well when she does not hold the magazine
in the hands when he goes out touches at
the printer and she sees that they
are able to do a nice review
that they are able to interest the
people to offer articles to offer
analyzes and well they are proud
of them is often it’s the first
time long and she gets
right then me in this redaction
in prison I learned for real that
is not conditioned by his past
so I do not want to say that these women
should forget their past acts
no I mean that even even when we
committed the worst
irreversible catch-up there is a
after one after we have the choice to act and
to walk to another direction
we have the choice to blow on the part
of evening bones who is wise and I
see it there that the more we blow on
this part
has more that part there and lights up and that
it is at our fingertips every day
so what am I trying to do
say there the air of nothing in fact I’m in
to tell you that marianne who has
sold drugs to children she has
still have the right to be proud of her
Yeah yeah
and that’s the strange thing about me
arrived at citadel the magic of our
writing
is that we are all in the same
boat we are all tied between
human
we are so busy making
papers a magazine of which one is proud and
to laugh and think that the
judgments and labels all that
naturally erases judgments
you know those little voices that we
tightens the head that makes us feel
heart a lot of editor of
citadel do not tell me why
they are in prison
I do not ask them because I
find that what we live in the present
together that what they have become
today
now the mug the way they
choose to behave
all that is much more valuable
for me that their past and I got
realized that more
I forget to judge them more I give
importance in the present but I have not
always think like that there is something
I made you before you started
this work there in prison I worked
and I investigated for a long time on the
rape in France
many of my close friends have been
touched and me at that time I was
hyper angry I was angry that
ruth turned up rapist I wanted I
believe that I wanted people who
have made others suffer
never again happy that they have more
far from being re never again and then I
am found in prison with the
friendly criminals endearing lovable bah
there I bugged my anger my anger she
was legitimate
my anger she was born c
shut up m but in jail I realized
I did not have to tell
limit to that I could continue the
way that maybe people who we
have made us suffer we are wasting time and we
loses energy to hate them to
shut up with them in the past that’s them
not even better and we are this
that it allows us to move forward while
if we stop condemning them we
gives a space a space where they have the
choice to become the owl people
that they can be and we too
you hear you hear all
the importance given to the present
when we give up judgment I have
found that very very liberating judge the
acts is not judging people
I must forget to do it pretty much
ten times a day
it does not matter because I found a
something that motivates me – I judge them
I judge myself more I accept them as
they are today more I accept myself
me too as I am today if
they can bounce back after their past
so me too when I planted myself
caen I made a bad choice I can
bounce too I’m not bad I have
value again and it’s even at this
value there that I can hang on
so the next time you and I
judge or judge hard
is what one could recognize this
little voice that gives way too much
of importance to the past are we
could come back to the present to everything
which is possible to all that is
open
now next time we say
I ‘m worthless I’ll forgive him
never because of the past is what we
could think of theresa had iata to
Helen Habib Tina is what we could
think of the citadel writers
it’s citadel editor who have
dared solicited the custody of the seals for
a phone interview on
inequality between men and women in
and prison of women sentenced by the
justice
the keeper of the seals madame belloubet
she did not accept the interview by
phone she move there to
inside the prison to answer
to the questions of the editors thank you
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