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Comedy inside and outside the Boredroom | Vikram Poddar | TEDxSIESGST


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okay I guess some of you have heard of

Conan Gill yes so just in case there’s

any confusion I am NOT coming Gill I

mean have a boat stand-up comedians just

that one of us is taller sexier

better-looking

the other one is cannon Gill I would be

happier if you didn’t laugh at that okay

now I’ll be honest you know one of the

most common questions that we often get

is you know why do you do stand-up

comedy and what I want to tell you is

that you know it’s to make people laugh

you know that’s what I’ve always wanted

to do that making people laugh making

them happy is something that gives me

happiness that when I see that smile on

your face it gives me emotional

satisfaction and I can also tell you

this word whenever two comedians see

another comedian giving an answer like

that we both turn to each other and

laugh because we know it’s a complete

load of bull crap okay I mean let’s put

a smile on that face it’s something that

a psychopathic villain say is not as

kind of if you honestly ask a stand-up

comedian why we do this it’s because

this is one field where for all that

effort you get instant validation when

300 people laugh at that new joke which

you were sure is going to bomb it gives

you an amazing satisfaction you know

what I’m going to step out and say it

it’s better than sex see those who are

not laughing clearly don’t have the data

– Valley Fire

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but I’ll also be honest about one thing

you know it’s not always as the

validation of the audience is the

validation of our clothes and loved ones

that gives us even more stress you know

like you know do our friends think we

are funny onstage does my girlfriend

think I’m funny

she said no she’s now my ex-girlfriend

the two are not related alright I’m not

that petty guys we also often get this

question did your parents support you in

this you know so guys let’s be honest

okay we’re talking about Indian parents

okay if you tell your parents you’re

quitting and banking to go to comedy

okay if they don’t send you for therapy

or to a tantric it means they support

you that’s about the best that you can

hope for right don’t expect too much but

guys I’ll be honest I used to have these

anxious moments so there was this time

and I took my mom to a show where when

joshi and the pill girl were performing

and then she found it great and I really

wanted to ask her mom you know your son

also does the same thing does that make

you proud do you think I’m as funny as

these guys you know I had that moment

looks guys I’ll tell you something see

my mom’s been supportive yes you know I

mean things are going good now but when

things were really hard you know at the

start when you struggle I don’t know

maybe she didn’t say it louder I’m sure

she had her doubts as well you know

whether I’ll make this a lucrative

career or even more disturbingly whether

she thinks I’m funny or not because

honestly she is funnier than me on

Facebook I recently I put up a joke on

Facebook that and Martin Luther King

said I had a dream

an Indian parents like chop chop

engineering Caro to which my mom replied

after MBA I put I have a dream Indian

Paris chop chop shaadi guru and her post

actually got more laughs than mine all

right and just

in fact I this is the reason why we

often don’t tell our friends to come and

sit on the front row because see we can

face failure and silence from strangers

but when we see that same you know

silence from people who we know we have

to go back and meet them afterwards and

that was much harder to deal with

and also because your friends know you

better than most people and they’ll ruin

all your punchlines

I saw the show with guys I’m a

middle-class guy no bro you’re from

South Bombay in fact it once happened to

me a girl actually swiped right on me on

tinder okay really good-looking but then

she came for the show and she sat on the

front row and she didn’t laugh and like

a we should rejected in your tinder

if I were to give you an analogy about

comedy I’d say it’s a lot like cricket

you might have 10,000 runs or 100 shows

behind you but every single time you

step on that pitch you start from zero

and you have that same nervousness till

you score your first run your first

laughter you’re always nervous and yes

you come with the prepared script you

have a game plan in mind

but at that moment you will always

respond to the bowling or to the inbox

why it’s just echoing a little yeah oh

you’ll always respond to the environment

to the bowling and to the conditions and

yes sometimes you’ll have great days but

even the bad joke gets a lot of laughs

you know sometimes in the edge goes to

the boundary but sometimes you will have

those days when even your best jokes

will get a response so I thought this is

a stand-up comedy show this looks more

like a TED talk this happens as well and

you know I mean I think a typical

inspirational talk we all know that

template right of a typical

inspirational motivational talk nobody

wants to hear a story about I started

well and I started doing even better

right nobody likes to hear a story of

just positive achievements if I tell you

yes I was poor and fat and my father

used to beat me with pokémon’s and

that’s why I took up comedy what a story

right hey do you know why we reject that

story because we know in real life it’s

not possible to have just success

there’s always struggle because nothing

in life that is worth having comes easy

but see the thing is that I’ve already

spoken about the struggles of comedy in

another TED talk you know I’ve already

spoken about that maybe one struggle I

haven’t spoken about is the constant

pressure to always be funny people

expect you to be funny offstage as well

this one time I went for a wedding in

Calcutta and nobody spoke to me for

three days because every time somebody

came up to me like hey

tell us a joke I didn’t want to so they

never spoke to me after that it’s quite

ridiculous but another question that I

want to ask you know which I’m really

confused about is that why am I here why

have you called me is it because I’m a

stand-up comedian because I’m a

successful stand-up comedian I mean I

don’t know what determines success the

maximum number of laughs the maximum /

hits on YouTube

or the maximum number of F is filed

against you what makes for a successful

startup why did you call me I mean would

you have called me if I was an AVP dead

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capital finance Western Region Pawnee

branch I don’t know why this laughter at

Pawnee but I’ll go ahead and then people

tell me you know what it’s because they

come you quit Investment Banking to take

up comedy so I quit something short to

take up something uncertain you

shouldn’t be cheering me on should be

putting me in therapy and yet you’ve

called me here and people say no Vikram

you took a risk you know you had the

guts to do this I never had the guts you

had the guts to do this of course then

we’re like they don’t say guts they use

another word which I can’t say at a TEDx

but what if I were to dispel this whole

romantic notion around what I’ve done

and say no it wasn’t really a risk that

what I took was a very logical and

rational decision what if I told you

that any investment banking job I saw

entire divisions laid off overnight that

I speak to a lot of my friends in media

and a lot of them are shutting down and

laying off people and if you work in an

MNC bank it’s just a complete you know

crazy fest that happens out there 2008

we are entering India 2009 we are

exiting India 2010 knowledge do the

longji dance for casual Friday that’s

the kind of you know struggle that they

have nothing is clear I mean I think

about in my business yes I have those

movements okay this month there hasn’t

been any awning shows so I tell myself

no problem we’ll just work a little

harder promote ourselves a little more

put one more video out on Facebook I’ll

get to corporate shows and sorted but in

this other job I found that I’m entirely

dependent you know my career my earning

my entire life could be dependent on the

whims and fancies of another boss whose

mind just keeps changing you know more

often than Arvind Kejriwal

so you don’t get me wrong I’m not trying

to say that one is better than the other

all I’m saying is that maybe we need to

relook our perception of what is safety

and what is risky that I don’t really

take a risky decision as much as I took

as one which was backed by logic all I

did is I decided to focus on my

strengths and cater to a niche and that

is very much how the idea of boardroom

comedy was born a lot of people often

ask me you know why corporate humor

I mean office is supposed to be this

boring place right where nobody laughs

I’ll be honest a lot of comedians don’t

like doing corporate shows they say we

just do it for the money because nobody

laughed there’s no passion that audience

is not interested at all I tell them no

they’re just real people just like you

and me the same people that come to a

canvas laugh club the only difference is

in office they have to wear a mask

because they are scared because

everything is being watched and judged

they are scared to be themselves and

when you come there as a corporate

comedian what happens is that you are

able to take off this mask because I am

able to tell them that hey guys I have

been there I know what lies breathe the

mask you can’t hide but it’s okay I’m

one of you and we take off that mask and

we address everything that really

happens in the corporate world we joke

about it and nobody gets offended

because we’re all like one family just

you know cracking a common joke about

what happens internally and just for

those thirty minutes when we do a show

or a workshop all the masks are gone and

this cuts across hierarchy you know

bosses sub-bosses interns you know one

of those most deprived category of

humanity everybody laughs at the same

joke and everybody comes on one platform

and that pretty much is how the idea of

boardroom comedy went forward

we do something called clowning you know

for corporates and I can tell you that

clowning is this very very deep

inhibition dropping exercise when we

take you back into your child state

remember as children you didn’t have any

inhibitions you just go and play with

anybody okay just okay I like that toy

all right let’s play together you didn’t

see their degrees or you know where they

come from or whether they’re from Fannie

it was that easy and they say that the

clown nose is the world’s smallest mask

not because it hides your true persona

but once you put it on it brings out the

real you brings out the real person

inside it’s like they say about Batman

right that that’s not really his mask

his real mask is Bruce Wayne because the

real person actually is Batman all we do

in these workshops and these choses for

a few moments we allow everyone to

become Batman and we allow people to

connect and it’s played out pretty well

if I were to ask you know like okay why

boardroom comedy I would say it allows

me to do everything that I liked about

corporate life and just ignore the stuff

that I didn’t like I always wanted to do

workshops for senior management I want

to do training workshops now if I go and

buy the traditional route I would have

had to work a lot I would have had to

work for 78 years I would have had to

show certificate people what are your

certifications nobody asked for

certification from a stand-up comedian

if you are funny they just take you on

board just like you guys I guess and

that allowed us to kind of cut through

and do a lot of things that we wanted to

do I always wanted to do advertising or

to do marketing create ad campaigns

again I would have had to struggle as a

copywriter for many years

again another ignored part of humanity

is copyright as I guess after interns

and we were able to directly work with

clients like Mithila loss while urban

clap and tightening to create marketing

campaigns and comedy allowed us to do

that I always wanted to you know just be

a keynote speaker at a big conference

and we recently last year we did

something called the economic time

startup Awards you know where we had all

the biggest people we had Evan Spiegel

the founder of snapchat we also had

Miranda Kerr so nobody looked at Evan

Spiegel for too long a bit and we also

had Pete Lauer the founder of one-plus

now I remember while introducing him

there was this one line that we use you

know that Pete Lau is one of the most

amazing entrepreneurs everybody wants to

know what his ideas are you know and

everybody wants to ask him a lot of

questions but there’s one question I

want to ask Pete that all of us want to

ask him hey Pete do you have a 1+2 in

white now the point is I didn’t even

care if this joke is funny or not

I said Bodrum comedy allowed me to ask

this question which probably only ten

people in the world would ever get to

ask him it kind of allowed us to do that

I mean if they effectively I’m going to

be honest about this it’s not like I’ve

had a stellar corporate career

lot of struggles if you look at my

career I was in consulting then I was an

in-flight entertainment then I was an

investment banking I am doing comedy

very logical career progression and this

was actually a challenge when I was

looking for jobs people used to look at

my CV and say there’s no clarity what

are you doing I thought I may not get

another job after that because people

said you know what you’ll do well in

sales but your CD scares me but today

the same crazy logical career

progression is my opening joke and the

reason that we’re able to do so many

shows for different kind of companies is

because we’ve worked with so many

industries so we can do jokes on every

possible industry so honest saying is

that in some way everything that was a

weakness everything that was a

frustrating you know aspect of corporate

life is today allowing us to make great

jokes on the same thing I want to tell

you some one thing also on a more

personal note you guys have a slight

visual disability I have a bit of a

squint in my left eye so I often a wide

audience interaction because people just

get confused who the hell am I talking

to and it gets me in a lot of trouble

you know somebody once told me you know

this this is famous Indian expression in

the land of the blind the squint eyed

man is the king I took it seriously I

went to the National Association of the

blind and I told them your king is

arrived now a lot of people would think

this is the visual disability and

something to hide but a lot of comedians

like I wish I had the squint so I could

do the same jokes and you know the same

thing that happened that whatever is a

weakness actually turned to a strength

and that same thing when translated into

boardroom comedy became what is our

business line so I just want to leave

you with this one thought is that you

know look if you can find something that

turns all your weaknesses into a

strength and guys that is the business

that you want to be in just don’t

compete with my business or hey my name

is Vikram Poddar I hope you guys have

had an interesting session thank

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