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Bringing Cell Culture into the 21st Century | Margaret Magdesian | TEDxMontreal


at this moment there are millions of

people in the hospital right now

suffering and in pain there are many

debilitating diseases such as

Alzheimer’s Parkinson’s spinal cord

injury that caused the injured our

nervous system and cause disability and

death once I was the daughter of one of

those patients I’ve spent most of my

childhood at the hospital waiting for my

mom to go from one painful treatment

after the next for us patients and

family the only hope is signs we always

hope that a scientist in some part of

the world will find a new cure or a new

medication to alleviate the pain of

those we love as I grew up I’ve decided

to become a scientist myself and I

decided to try to solve it or at least

try to help those people at the hospital

but even after many years of studies and

all my efforts I couldn’t do much why

because science is slow every question

generates more questions what is pain

it’s a response of the nerves to injury

what’s nerve injury it’s a lesion caused

to the nerve by a disease an accident or

tumor how can we understand it to really

understand the mechanism of neuronal

degeneration and how it leads to

disability and death we have to go

deeper into our nervous system the

nervous system is formed by a network of

neurons and neurons are smaller units

that are made by cell bodies and axons

little wires that passes information

from our brain the power source to the

rest of our body enabling us to speak to

think and to move to work prop similar

to them well let’s say similar to the

electric wiring of a house to work

properly the

nervous system relies on the network and

on the precision of neuronal connections

if the axons they equivalent to the

wires or the neuronal connections the

equivalent to the switch are damaged the

information path is compromised and

function may be compromised as well just

like the electric wiring of a house we

can have a small damage that just burn a

book or a big damage and a complete

blackout when you find a dark room in

your house we have to investigate what

is the cause it could be a bad bulb a

burned fuse or something else to

investigate lesions in the nervous

system is even more challenging and

difficult because we do not have access

to the precise region of the injury and

we cannot just open someone’s brain and

try to figure out what’s working and

what’s not

in addition all the structures the

neuronal connections and also the axles

they are very very small they are in the

micro and nanoscale and to understand

how they work

we need micro and nano tools and that’s

the reason the wire came to Montreal

Montreal is a very famous city in your

science research mantra is the city of

dr. Wilder Penfield and dr. Brenda

Milner pioneer neuroscientist in the

study of the brain and spinal cord

injury I started working at the Montreal

Neurological Institute in a

collaboration with the McGill physics

department where once Nobel Prize winner

Ernest Rutherford also used to work for

me it was the equivalent of being in a

Disney word for scientists Montreal had

it all you know we had the great

scientists great facilities and all the

tools they need to finally understand

how the nervous system is injured and

how we could reconnect it so my plan was

to use nanotechnology to take one neuron

at a time cut it and try to reconnect it

try to make it functional again just

like the same processes a disease does

the disease cut a neuron so I was trying

to mimic this in the lab and then try to

understand how I could fix it so I

prepared

through on the petri dish I took the

culture to the microscope and then I saw

this entangled mass neurons on a petri

dish just do not organize like in the

human body

they get entangled they form clumps and

it’s very hard to identify single axons

cut them after injury find where in this

mess is the other half and try to

reconnect it back to see if it’s working

or not

back to the house analogy you know when

you have that broken electric cable in

your house and then you try to fix it

and this full of those mini wires they

are all the same color all entangled and

you have no idea how to connect them

back well that’s exactly the petri dish

and that’s what I was trying to fix even

worse every time we prepare neurons on a

new petri dish they form a different

network completely different from the

previous one so if I just found a way to

reconnect neurons in petri dish number

one I try to repeat the experiment in

petri dish number two and it takes me

ages just to find the localization how

the network is working well let’s go

back to the house analogy let’s imagine

now that you finally fix that broken

cable and then every time you turn on a

switch a different bulb turn on aha what

happened we have to change that so if

you ask someone else if you ask another

scientist to use exactly the same

technique to reproduce what you did it’s

just not possible it will not work it’s

almost impossible for someone to make

the same si that you did that and what

happens is that every science has to

repeat the same experiment over and over

and over again and every time you repeat

the experiment what’s up what’s

happening we’re increasing the time it

were delaying the delivery of new drugs

for those people at the hospital that

are waiting for you we’re also

increasing the costs because we’re using

more scientists more equipment more

reagents to produce a new test so

everything is becoming more expensive

and it’s delaying in fact

today from 10,000 drugs being tested

only one we arrive at the market after

10 to 15 years of research and over a

billion dollars investment this is just

too long you know in the past 100 years

on more than a hundred years ago the

petri dish was invented to culture cells

in the lab and it has not changed until

today they use exactly the same

procedure in the meantime scientists

have evolved they have become

increasingly qualified in microscopes

have become complex machines with a much

better vision than the human eye this

means that today we do have the

technology to perform multiple tests a

day we do have the technology to

automate the whole process but we just

cannot do this because the petri dish is

an outdated model it’s archaic and it

cannot standardize the culture we cannot

send it to a microscope to read it by

itself

in fact lack of reproducibility is a big

problem in science today and what I’ve

realized that my major challenge as a

scientist was not to have the best

facilities the best equipment or the

money my major challenge was to try to

reproduce the nervous system environment

on a petri dish so that we can get

standardized reproducible data and this

way we can accelerate the drug

development cycle so that you better

understand what I’m talking about and

how the petri dish works let’s make an

analogy let’s say we want to evaluate

how people to react to different events

in the park right there is a concert as

people arrive in the park some like to

stay crowded close to the band others

prefer to stay distant in a more

comfortable East’s if we take pictures

from the event what we are going to see

is that depending on where the pictures

are taking we could have multiple

subjective interpretations if you see

the picture close to the band you say

all the events crowd if you see the

picture further away you say oh the

event was empty nobody was there and

it’s very hard to compare between events

that’s exactly what happens to the petri

dish the cells when they fall on a petri

dish they organize themselves

randomly so now imagine we organized the

same event on a stadium and then it’s

much easier to quantify how many people

were present because they are precisely

seated on specific positions so if we

take an image we can say how many people

were present how many seats were empty

we could even automatically write a

program to count how many people were at

the event just using a computer and it

will be much easier to compare the

reaction of people between events in

addition we could even get more data we

could ask the computer check how many

people were wearing a red shirt how many

people are standing you see how

organization makes data analysis much

faster that’s what we want to do with

the petri dish so I spoke to my friend

engineer and I said I have this idea why

don’t we build a stadium for the cells

and then we did and that’s what I have

here in my hands in this small device

made of silicon is a little mold that we

create to grow 120 mini spinal cords in

less than a centimeter square now

instead of having you know sitting in

the microscope and try to find one or

two axons a day I have 120 perfect axon

similarly organized as in the body that

I could use a test as a will I could

slash all those 120 axons at once and

try to reconnect it see which drug is

working or not asking my other friends

in other countries other scientists to

test the same thing easily we could

compare the results you see the micro

moulds just by organizing the cells make

drug testing faster more efficient and

more reproducible and I’m very proud to

say that by using this technique we

achieved a major breakthrough because

now I had much more time to think and to

do other things we had this great idea

why not to try to elongate the axles and

we managed to do that well or gaiter the

axon 60 times faster than they grow

naturally we were capable to reconnect

the axons to other cells very precisely

and make this connection functional what

does it mean it means that in the future

we just need some more studies but in

the future it will surgeons will be able

to use the same technique to reconnect

nerves after injury this is a huge hope

I could finally help those people at the

hospital or give them more hope you know

we can maybe in the future develop a new

technique to reconnect your nerves and

to help you regain your thoughts your

memories and your movements as I started

presented this data in different

conferences people came to me and said

oh could I have this micromoles to use

in my research after one year

we’ve sold over 2,000 devices to people

to accelerate research in Alzheimer’s

disease Parkinson’s multiple sclerosis

spinal cord injury cancer even in

parasitic disease at this time I

realized you know I develop these

devices just to make my work more

efficient but suddenly by mass-producing

it I saw that it could help everyone

else making their work more efficient

and this is a very rewarded feeling is a

feeling like you know you can contribute

to society we can make a better world so

in fact if you chat today ten of the

most cited papers of all times seven of

them are new techniques or software’s

that became essential in their field it

means that seven of the small cited

papers were scientists that develop a

new tool that enable other scientists to

achieve better results much faster not

very standardized and reproducible way

unfortunately

reproducibility is a big problem in

science today and in a recent survey

published by nature magazine they show

that in biology alone over 60% of the

research produced cannot be reproduced

scientists cannot reproduce their own

research they are doing a lot of tests

what does it mean means that they have

to make more and more tests and use the

cells over

and over and over again and that means

more costs and longer time to deliver

drugs for those people that need it we

have to change that it is about time

that we develop something better than

the petri dish because we have the

technology and there are millions of

people in the hospitals right now

waiting for us to bring medication from

the lab to the bedside what we’re

solving now it’s much bigger than just

cells on a petri dish we’re bringing

research into the 21st century the

message I would like to leave is for all

the kids watching all the kids that like

me have parents at the hospital don’t

lose your faith in science because we

can do better we can do much better we

have the technology and we have the

minds for it for all the scientists

watching

let’s bring more innovation to science

because we need it thank

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