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Believe me, I’m a scientist | Lawrence Sherman | TEDxPortlandStateUniversity


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so I grew up in an incredibly beautiful

place called La Jolla California and

growing up in La Jolla ain’t bad let me

tell you I used to hang out on the beach

all day long I used to ride my bike with

my friends everywhere around town and we

didn’t have cell phones then so our

parents had no idea what we were getting

into it was awesome but one day when I

was 14 years old I decided to go off on

my own and ride around the campus of the

University of California San Diego which

was just a few blocks away from my house

and the great thing about UCSD and

probably every University back then was

nobody locked their doors you could just

walk into buildings and check stuff out

and I decided to take advantage of that

one day and I walked into this building

which was really cool-looking and I was

going down this hall and there was a

door open halfway down the hall and I

looked in and I saw this gentleman at a

desk holding a human brain in his hands

this gentleman turns out to be robert

Livingston who was one of the foremost

neuroscientists at the time and I was

just staring at this brain I was

transfixed and he looked at me finally

realizing I was there and said would you

like to see this would you like to come

in and look at this and I kept thinking

you know my mom always said don’t take

candy from strangers but she never said

anything about brains so I walked in and

I got this incredible tour of the human

brain and from that moment on I decided

neuroscience was really cool and in fact

I got to work in his lab after school

and got to do science fair projects

which I eventually took me to a career

in neuroscience it started by going here

in Portland Oregon at Reed College and

then on to get a PhD at OHSU

now what’s remarkable was that entire

time something I learned about science

and scientists was that scientists are

really well-liked and well respected

people at least they were then and

science was thought of by everybody I

talked to has an answer for most of the

problems that we face on our planet I

went off to Karlsruhe Germany from my

postdoctoral research

section kind of like a look like an

apprenticeship if you will and in

Karlsruhe what was remarkable was I was

told that if you tell the utilities

people that your hair dr. Schurman not

just hair doctor but hair dr. Schurman

and not just hair Sherman they’re gonna

hook up your utilities faster because

scientists are respected people and they

think it’s important that your phone

lines work kind of cool so this business

impression that I’ve always had that

scientists in science was something that

was really respected and something

changed when I came back to the United

States I came to work at the University

of Cincinnati and for several years and

his assistant professor and during those

years in that lab I realized that people

were really becoming very skeptical

about science all sorts of things were

coming up saying maybe scientists aren’t

such the best people why what was

happening and I thought this is crazy

but then if you think about it this has

been happening for a very very long time

we have this image of scientists in

science that you know has changed not so

much if you think about it

if you go back to the earliest science

we have this idea that the Earth

revolves around the Sun because of the

work of one particular scientist and

that scientist was the gentleman here on

the Left Galileo

looking on with a very skeptical looking

member of the Catholic Church

now Galileo did some amazing things he

came up with the first ideas for how to

do science what we call the scientific

method he also came up with mathematics

to describe data and in a quantifiable

way which was really revolutionary and

using these text techniques he did all

sorts of great things he discovered

properties of motion properties of

materials and he did some amazing things

with astronomy including showing using

data that Copernicus was right that in

fact the earth does revolve around the

Sun not the other way around and for

this discovery he was labeled a heretic

and imprisoned and as a result of that

we had this version of the universe for

quite some time now this is not unique

to astronomy if we go forward just a few

hundred years

we found that Darwin faced similar

opposition to his data Darwin used

amazing techniques to come up with his

treatise on the Origin of Species to

suggest the idea that natural selection

leads to this evolutionary process

he used a lot of data tremendous amounts

of studies observational studies to come

up with this theory and yet even at the

time of Darwin but just a few years

afterwards in 1925 for example in this

country

Tennessee outlawed the teaching

altogether of evolution and when that

law was challenged by a teacher it led

to a trial

the famous Scopes trial the Monkey Trial

people called it in which not only was

the teacher Scopes put on trial but the

whole theory of evolution was put on

trial and unfortunately it lost now that

has led to what we have today that was

the beginnings of an anti science

movement if you will an anti rational

thinking movement if you will call it

what you will creationism or intelligent

design but the basis of these ideas is

simply that it’s too complicated

therefore it can’t be explained by

science it’s not just evolution though

for some reason which is unbelievable to

me in the 21st century there are people

who believe the earth is flat what’s

more there are people who fail to accept

the possibility even despite tremendous

amounts of data from very well-respected

scientists and lots of them I should add

that our word our world is actually

warming not only is our world world

warming but the effects of that seem to

be linked to changes in carbon dioxide

generated by mankind and this trend is

continuing and we continue to argue

about it as the world continues to heat

up now that has been denied on so many

levels and what’s interesting is the

groups that deny it come up with names

for themselves like this one the Friends

of science but we know that these are

not friends of real science instead

they’re friends of science that is

trying to be defending something else

the other that the remarkable thing is

in this day and age despite having a

history in humanity where millions of

people die from flu epidemics for

example that vaccines are some

evil this was actually nothing new the

anti-vaccine movement actually was very

strong in the 1800’s possibly for good

reasons there were very bad vaccines

back then but things have changed

vaccines have proven themselves time and

again to save millions of lives every

every time something hits our population

and yet people have been in the wings

just almost like they’re waiting to

attack this idea that vaccines are still

good today because one single study

comes out from a gentleman named

Wakefield claiming that there’s a link

between vaccination and autism and yet

it’s been proven time and again that

there was a lot of corruption involved

in this study the study was false it’s

actually been retracted and yet we still

have people who are denying vaccinations

are a good idea so there are many

reasons why people attack science money

is one of them if there’s a financial

interest that is being challenged

because some scientific evidence says

that for example a company’s processes

are polluting or damaging to the

environment they’re gonna really try to

protect that money and this happens time

and time again religion is also

unfortunately our driving force between

a lot of science denial as we saw in the

case of Galileo and in the case of

Darwin but it’s still true today

if your dog mind your beliefs are being

challenged by a scientific study it’s

understandable that you’re going to

react negatively to it and of course

politicians take advantage of both of

these things but in addition people take

advantage of the fact that there’s an

emotional response to some of these

studies in the case of the Wakefield

paper on autism people want to know why

their children are coming down with

autism and if there’s a cause out there

they’re going to react at a very

emotional level so the tactics that

these groups are using to sort of

amplify these ideas include manipulating

public messaging like calling yourself a

friend of science but the organization

name and and denying all the climate

data but also taking any state statement

made in some paper and either blowing

out of proportion in one way or the

other

to sort of meet the needs of the people

and their messaging economic

manipulation is also a clear tactic

withholding funds or making it very

difficult to get certain types of funds

or selectively funding the studies that

are in agreement with what your

corporation

or your group wants to hear delay is

also another tactic for example causing

some sort of litigation that will

prevent some study from going forward

demanding every piece of little data at

each step of process harassment is also

something that we see happening quite a

bit in science people are harassed for

the work they do and it causes again

delays and their ability to do their

work and then finally it’s this also

called hidden identities masquerading as

grassroots organizations for example

when in fact you’re being funded by

another interest so the consequences are

interesting this is a map and there’s

consequences for every field of science

that’s where we’re seeing this happening

and I and I think most of us are

familiar with the potential consequences

of climate change but here’s a map from

2008 of outbreaks of various diseases

like whooping cough measles and mumps

for example and you can see the

distribution it’s there’s there are

outbreaks for sure of 2008 but then the

anti-vaxxer movement really got it

started and in 2017 this is what the map

looks like we’ve had increases in

diseases that we haven’t seen in years

popping up all over the place and these

diseases are not just mild cases of

outbreaks of colds these are diseases

that kill people and so we may actually

in fact continue if we don’t continue to

prevent this type of thing from

happening have another pandemic what can

we do well I think we all have our own

ideas about how to change people’s ideas

about science I have taken a personal

approach and I would like to challenge

everybody here to do this if you’re a

scientist or even if you’re not a

scientist but you believe that science

has value the first thing is to dedicate

yourself to challenging people to accept

that science is a rational thing to

accept

not all science is correct science is a

process it’s not a sprint it’s a

marathon

we come up with theories based on

hypotheses the theories are pretty solid

ideas once we get to them once you get

to that point use that dedication to

educate people around you in your

communities and educate people to

understand what science is really all

about and then communicate communicate

that science in a way that’s

clear and concise and something that

people can really follow I’ve done

something that’s I’ve been having a lot

of fun with in this regard for the

guards of the education arm for the last

15 years I’ve been running a science

fair workshop and a science fair for

fifth graders and these kids come up

with the most amazing ideas but in the

process of doing these projects they’re

challenged to come up with something

novel and something that they have a

passion for that they’re really

interested in and they learn what

science is like they learned that

experiments go wrong they also learn

that how to interpret data properly they

also know that sometimes to averages

compared to each other may not be

meaningful unless you do something else

to analyze those data and we hear about

this all the time it’s great seeing them

challenge this data the other thing

that’s remarkable and fun for me is

talking about my science to the general

public now unfortunately I have a

profession which is just laden with

lingo there are words that I don’t even

know how to pronounce this is one of our

our papers from several years ago and

the title as you can see is Holley

Iranian accumulates Indy myelinated

lesions and inhibits the leakage like

oligodendrocytes enter maturation and

most of you are probably thinking what

does that mean and why should I care

well if I want to talk to people who are

not in my own field I need to come up

with a different language and that’s not

a bad thing not all of us I probably

won’t understand your lingo from your

field either a better title might be a

sugar molecule that builds up following

brain injury and it prevents cells from

repairing the damage in fact this is

work that we’re using now to try to find

a way to get the brain to repair itself

in people with multiple sclerosis so we

need to learn how to talk about our

science as scientists to people and as

science communicators and educators and

community members we need to be able to

learn about those science findings and

communicate them clearly finally I love

talking about science and I love to get

people excited about science and my

approach has been to take things that

I’m really interested in and kind of let

people know there’s science and just

about everything my favorite thing to do

is I play the piano and I get to talk

about music in the brain and I make

people sing which is awesome

and when I get to talk about all these

things in the brain and the music and

put it all together people think Oh

neuroscience is pretty cool I also talk

about love in the brain especially about

Valentine’s Day it’s a lot of fun so

these kinds of activities maybe they’re

not for everybody but this communication

education and dedication when you put

these three things together I think we

have a chance of bringing rationality

back to the way we talk about the world

there’s a respect that we need from

scientists and for science and the next

time some kid walks into a loud and sees

a brain they’ll be inspired and have a

world where the science that they’re

gonna do is gonna be appreciated thank

you so much [Applause]

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