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Back to the Future – With Love | Kate Skinner | TEDxQMU


I hope you like my title back to the

future with love the reason I’ve chosen

it is that I’ve been a social worker for

a long time then social manager and then

Social Work academic and now I’m doing

consultancy and what I want to share

with you really is my experience the

things I picked up along the way and

love is beginning to feature big style

my Social Work training was based on

this guy B stack who was actually a

pastor you can see he was writing a long

time ago but it was about the dynamic

interaction of attitudes and emotions

between the caseworker social worker and

the client and that’s been there right

through and my contention is that

actually it’s got bit lost so over the

years and I’ve learned about the

separation of personal and professional

in organizations and relationships have

been seen as fuzzy things and not proper

organizational material and that’s been

around what’s been going on in the

organization’s themselves and our

relationships with professionals and

public sector with other people service

users clients customers whatever you

want to call them there’s also been the

advent of managerialism where the

private sector was seen as having it in

quotes as far as getting results getting

through life having a successful

organization so in my world

lots of people were sent on MBAs now I

learned a lot about MBAs because I

eventually jumped out of management

practice and went into universities and

my task was to develop social work

management education and I looked at the

MBAs as a starting point but I felt

again I keep using this necessary but

not sufficient and I come to feel that

some of our organizations if not many

are actually dysfunctional and having

spoken to people in the green room this

morning I think you’ll hear that

sentiment come up more than once my

contention is that measurement has

become a proxy for quality and

accountability and that’s having quite a

strong impact on the public sector and

human services regulation is very

important I’m not denying that about

people about places that services and

all the rest of it I think we need to

maybe drag it back a bit technology has

come to the fore and I’ve seen social

workers go into houses with a tablet on

which they’ve been filling in assessment

forms now I just wonder what that feels

like to be on this the other side of

that I’ve become a service user through

family members over the years and I can

tell you that I don’t actually like it

very much the other thing that I think’s

been around in the public sector and in

many organizations being a culture of

compliance and blame and I think that’s

not helpful I think it’s changed how we

are inside organisations and it’s

changed how we are on the outside in

relation to the rest of the world I have

a daughter with Down’s syndrome in

brackets because the language is

changing used to be Down syndrome and

now it’s back to calling it dance and

she also has autism and those two

conditions into play in a very major way

in her life she has lot of struggles she

started off in mainstream primary school

in a small village with two teachers

school with two teachers and she then

moved on to special schooling day

schooling and then to residential

special school and she now lives in a

residential community for people with

learning disabilities along the way

because of the need to find somewhere

for my daughter to go to school I

discovered Camp Hill some of you will

know about it and I think there’s a

theme there that’s going to be picked up

later in other speakers talks

it’s an organization set up by Jewish

refugees from Europe during World War

two

and started as a school

in Aberdeen there are now 11 communities

in Scotland two of those are schools and

nine of them are for adults and one of

those is a home for older people and

there are Camp Hill places now in 20

countries worldwide the organization is

bait the organization’s I should say

because they are all separate from each

other although there is a federal body

there based on shared living and that

notion was new when it started and then

it’s been through a number of stages

where it became very popular and it’s

now becoming much more difficult to find

volunteers to share their lives in

residential communities so the plan was

and still is in many places that the

place was staffed by excuse me volunteer

co-workers so young people often who

were from other countries interestingly

some countries had an exemption from

national service for young people who

volunteered so a number of people came

from places like Denmark Germany Sweden

Finland Switzerland and so on to work in

Scotland as a way of not being part of

national service so that meant there’s

been a steady flow of young people many

of whom had degrees highly educated

highly enthusiastic young people the

places are usually in rural settings

with large and very beautiful grounds

with play equipment for the young

younger people sculptures flowers all

sorts of beautiful things and a lot of

nature very much to the for the

philosophy in the houses is reciprocity

so for example although my daughter is

very disabled she’s very limited

physically she’s not limited but she’s

mentally and socially very limited she

had chores to do she had things that she

needed to contribute to the community

from delivering the bread fetching the

bread taking a young person who was a

very small young person but who was

blind and deaf her job was to get

that child to the meal table and they

did it with a lot of laughter she often

had her arms under her hands under the

arms of the young person and she dragged

him with his feet being dragged across

the room and the pair of them were

giggling their heads off but that was

her job she did it she would not let

anybody else do it and she got a lot out

of it and so did the young boy the wider

environment is very important in camp

ill places so there’s the immediate

environment of the nice building with

lots of inside the building there’d be

lots of circles they’d have circular

rooms circular carpets to signify the

notion of continuity and so on lots of

plants lots of beautiful wood hanging

lots of glass lots of pictures

lovely immediate environment candles on

the table for meals flowers and so on

but also the much wider environment of

the grounds themselves with all these

lovely things in it and the other thing

which is really important is this notion

of doing things with rather than doing

things for so the volunteers work with

young people with the residents whether

they’re adults or older people or

children to create things to do things

together this is a shot of a camping

place in Aberdeen one of the schools you

can see the trees the grass and all the

rest of it and there’s a pic there’s a

house there just to show you what house

light looks like this is another house

in that house would be about 20 people a

dozen or so would be co-workers who

would some of whom would be single some

of whom would be married and in

relationships and some of them would

have children and some of them would be

retired co-workers so they continued to

live as a small community within a house

and then there would be six seven eight

residence children older people people

with learning disabilities and so on so

very much an inclusive kind of household

in Camp Hill in Aberdeen they worked

very closely with the University of

Aberdeen and then Gordon University to

develop a BA in social pedagogy and the

what that has done of course is actually

include the folk who were already there

and perhaps getting older in a

qualification at degree level but also

encouraged young folk to come from other

countries in order to do a degree for

those who didn’t already have one social

pedagogy regards the individual as a

whole person a social person and it

works with and uses the group so it’s

very much attention to relationships

between individuals between the

individuals and the group and across the

whole group it’s a relational approach

involving head heart and hands which i

think is a really lovely way of

capturing how to be alongside people the

training emphasizes creativity shared

activity and those those activities

could be sport cooking drama crafts art

music the thing I used to love about the

camp Hill School in Aberdeen where my

daughter was was that the children were

woken up in the morning by somebody

walking through the house and either

singing or playing an instrument like

the recorder or the fiddle or the guitar

lovely way so much nicer than an alarm

clock when you think about it another

central aspect to social pedagogy is

this categorization if you like or way

of defining the three P’s a professional

the personal and the private the

professional is about professional

responsibilities duties concerned with

professional knowledge and skill and

using using the head basically but also

all of those things around experience

and policies procedures blah blah all

the rest of it the personal bit is is

about the individual the worker not

being a robot not a mere follower of

procedures but a fellow human being with

feelings hopes fears experience humor

and fun I can tell you I was so pleased

to find this it was just it was just

such a relief

I can feel here in ripple or to around

the place with that

I get that the private bit is the bit

about the individual as a worker that

they choose to keep private so those

things are not for sharing that the

private bit is the bat is the set of

boundaries that the worker puts around

it teamwork and professional modeling is

right sorry personal positive role

modeling is central to social pedagogy

it’s about good working relationships

and it’s about behaving in the

professional role as you want other

people other professionals to behave

towards you as a worker but also

modeling good social behavior for social

for users of services whatever those

individuals happen to be interestingly

the social work response to social

pedagogy has been suspicions they don’t

like the word they told me it’s too hard

it’s too difficult it’s unusual we’re

not used to it but we cope with biology

and audiology in sociology and so on so

why not pedagogy managers have argued

that they don’t want another

qualification there enough

qualifications around already thank you

very much and I have to say some

universities have said the same thing

because they’ve seen pedagogy as a

potential threat to social work and

social care regulators have said well

you can do it but you can’t call it that

because we don’t like the word and you

have to make it look like regular social

care which kind of defeats the point

really the other thing which is

absolutely crucial to this at this

particular time is how folk are ignoring

the evidence that’s been accumulated

from a number of reviews this goes back

to 2009 chuckle Trotter reckoned that

clients want a social worker who’s

reliable friendly warm authentic

straight talking goes the extra mile

sees me as an equal and he actually did

a study of quite difficult cases in

criminal justice and in child protection

and discovered that better outcomes were

achieved we’re social workers use these

kinds of approaches so what does the

literature say don’t want to dwell too

much on this but talked about

staff being open to challenge being

honest and empathetic and so on and

Beckett too argues about change for

service users which is mostly what

social workers are engaged in it’s about

promoting change comes through

experience within a relationship looked

after children rapport and this post

dates some of the awful stories that

where children have died at the hands of

their carers and what what they’ve

argued is that people are trying to do

their best in spite of the system so I’m

coming back now to what I was saying at

the beginning about organizations we

need to remove the barriers to

development to put good personal

relationships and support those

relationships theory has been talking

about words like boundary client

delivery intervention outcomes these

familiar to you yet some nods around the

room thank you and we’ve developed in

some cases a rigid and standardized and

non personal approach that’s a really

hard way to deliver a caring supportive

service so where am I going with all

this our current approaches aren’t

working I haven’t looked very recently

the figures but my understanding is that

the same number of children are dying as

a result of injury by their carers now

as we’re dying many years ago when I

trained now that is peculiar given the

emphasis on child safety and child

protection staff are dissatisfied

services are stretched and many service

users are unhappy with the service that

they get results figures haven’t

improved there’s a natural culture

inside organizations there’s a lot of

blame and services have become

risk-averse and that’s happening

throughout this country and throughout

many others so I’m coming back now to

love it’s not that all you need is love

am arguing that love is necessary but

not sufficient

what Frederickson says is that quote up

there I know you can all read on

not going to read it out to you just

it’s from a book called love 2.0 which i

think is really nice given the link with

technology but it’s a step back from how

we might currently see it it’s not a

special bond I’m talking about love now

it’s not a special bond it’s not a

romantic thing

it’s not about commitment sexual desire

or blood ties

it’s the micro moment of warmth and

connection with another human being I

think if we are service users that’s

what we want from the people working

with us and that’s what we need to be

giving so start for beginning to use

luck the word love in their

conversations it’s a bit clunky they’re

uncomfortable and they’re made to feel

uncomfortable by some others there are

some civil servants in senior positions

and some ministers in Scottish

government who are showing an interest

in the notion of love and relationship

based work and services are being seen

as the way ahead and I really welcome

that I appreciate it it’s what I want

for myself it’s what I want for other

people around me and it’s what I hope

that the people I work with will be

giving to their service users so all you

need is love won’t do we need all of the

above we need good training we need

serious research we need flexible

policies good people excellent training

and love frederickson says micro moments

of connection between people and I love

this quote from Jean Van Van EA we’re

not called upon to do extraordinary

things but to do ordinary things with

extraordinary love I rest my case [Applause]

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