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A Cybernetic View of AI in Healthcare Systems | Brian Dolan | TEDxMillsapsCollege


I’m a mathematician and cyberneticist

I’ve been studying artificial systems

for decades now in production eliza

machine learning techniques and today

i’d like to talk about a really hot

topic and that is artificial

intelligence and its role in the

healthcare system one of the things that

i think has caused a lot of panic as

people fail to take a fully cybernetic

view of the world to take a cybernetic

view means to ask questions like what

are the fitness functions that this

thing has to satisfy how can it

communicate with the rest of the world

what features can it extract from its

reality and what kind of responses can

it provide to the rest of us as it tries

to optimize against its own niche this

is a snakehead look at this ready to go

when when they said the team of today

was movement i desided movement means

invasion an invasive species is a really

good way to do it and this thing looks

brutal right when it got introduced into

the Potomac River basin in 2004 it cost

such a panic that the news reports

started calling it a Frankenfish and if

you’re a biologist a wildlife owl is

just dealing with this kind of a fragile

ecosystem a complex system of in turkey

dinner communicating webs you freak out

on something like this by any fitness

measure that you might have for

traditional species this thing is a

winner right it’s twice as big as

anything that lives there it has no

natural predators it can reproduce twice

a year that’s unusual for fish even

humans can’t reproduce twice a year it

breathes air if you’re fishing you

breathe air you got a leg up

not only that a fin up is that really

should have said oh I need better

writers not only that you it it has the

ability to adapt quickly to its system

and it finds the local varietals

absolutely delicious it eats voraciously

on the local system so it has found a

niche in 2004 it showed up people

panicked everybody expected to take over

they’re probably going to take over the

local buildings and local economy as

well

this is a land-dwelling japanese robot

named ASIMO also named honda man that

was introduced in 2000 by the Honda

Corporation and when it showed up it

gave people a big panic as well

including in the healthcare industry

because one of the things they said is

this thing’s going to be your doctor but

the question remains what is the fitness

function that this robot has to satisfy

or that any artificial intelligence has

to satisfy what makes it succeed if it’s

going to succeed or fail it’s because of

a certain fitness function and the

fitness function for this thing is

economic we hear about all the

artificial intelligence that’s happening

in the universities and it’s very

interesting stuff I keep up with it too

I read the papers but it’s the

commercial artificial intelligence that

we really are interacting with and that

stuff has to serve a purpose and it has

to serve a profit and as a guy who has

retired hundreds of artificial

intelligences in my career especially in

the online advertising world I can tell

you survival is not an easy thing it’s

not a guaranteed thing not even for

something like Asimov that has the the

power of Honda behind it so his future

is uncertain he’s not going to be

walking around a hospital handing out

prescriptions anytime soon because the

intelligences that have been that we

have generated in order to handle

diagnosis and monitoring are being

broken up into a bunch of different

species your own client finally their

own niches and trying to optimize

against their own survival in 1948

Norbert Wiener one of my favorite

authors proved that two systems cannot

communicate with each other if they

don’t coexist in the same dimension of

time now that sounds rather abstract but

it’s very true to communicate means to

exchange information and information is

the resolution of uncertainty that is

its mathematical definition you have an

uncertainty before and you have a

resolution after that’s Claude Shannon’s

definition you cannot have communication

unless you have a dimension of time that

establishes before and after you can

play around with that dimension of time

which you have to have a before in and

after to establish communication between

systems like the systems

azzam I was trying to invade but just as

important there are a lot of potentially

fatal commune

Kayson blockages between us and an

artificial intelligence imagine two

people trying to communicate over a

telephone wire via telephone who don’t

speak the same language the only

features they can exchange our words and

they don’t have words that they have in

common that’s called the feature

extraction of phase of how an AI is

learning from the world so they would

have a very difficult time communicating

AI has a very difficult time sucking

data through this thin slice of the user

experience so that it can create

optimizations some of the things that

will not be able to extract on for a

very long time if ever is the urge to

care for somebody else or the ability to

notice that a woman is struggling to

read a form you just gave her even

though she has glasses on because she

may have ocular tumors your AI is not

going to pick up that part of the

communication system another thing you

cannot comprehend in any way is taste

and in fact it’s humans we can’t even

communicate well about this right now I

can’t talk to you about what is too

spicy for you and then have a way to

monitor that it’s hard to have a

conversation about these sorts of

intangibles in the United States Indian

restaurants have come to moderate how

much curry they will put into their food

into what’s called a normative response

right the average response i’ve had to

go to the same restaurant Indian

restaurant a multiple of times and say I

wanted homestyle before they’ll actually

give it to me homestyle and then the

joke’s on me so what is a normative

response we do this all the time anytime

we’re about to cross cultures or about

to create a new experience or bring new

friends into new things we provide a

normative response and we train our

machines to do this same thing we train

our machines to say if I had the time to

read a billion rows of data and I was I

didn’t have time today because I pick up

the kids I would give this response to

so that’s what a normative responses and

we’re forcing these normative responses

on into our machines to come back with

essentially averages and blasé

predictions

now this is perfectly scientific you

think about what a bunch of the medical

profession is I’ve been everywhere about

this dot a bunch of the medical

profession

is saying this worked for a patient

that’s kind of like you and so I’m going

to give it to you now and I’m hoping

that this will work for you

that’s perfectly scientific but it

limits your ability to deliver something

extraordinary so as the father of a

daughter this was an extraordinary

moment for me and I think it probably

was for a lot of people but the

prediction earring that happened before

this movie came out was pretty pretty

bland it had a lot of positive

indicators going for it it’s big special

effects driven it was branded content

everybody knows who Wonder Woman is it

had a great summer release but it had

some negative indicators coming out as

well it was emotional content it was

directed by a woman and the character

had appeared before in another movie and

that will be tanked

probably you can’t even name what that

movie was anybody so the machines and

the humans came out with the exact same

prediction they said how’s this movie

gonna do and they all went man nobody

really knew of course post facto there’s

a lot of belief that the presidential

election impacted a female empowerment

movement and that drove box office for

Wonder Woman which is not something

that’s going to make it into your neural

net model female empowerment zeitgeist

is not a variable in your logistic

regression to predict box-office success

and it’s unlikely to be in the near

future so speaking of an extraordinary

woman here are two more I am a proud dad

that’s my daughter on the right this is

Sandra Park Sandra Park got 23andme as a

birthday present a couple years ago and

they send her all these follow-up

questions all the time hey you thought

this questionnaire we’re interested in

your health and she got one one day and

she was going through and she’s checking

off like has your handwriting become

small no has your voice become frail no

and she’s going down she’s going down at

the end of this form she realizes her

husband has Parkinson’s disease she

didn’t know that her husband was being

taken care of by a whirl

class medical institution if I said the

name you’d know it and be like hey

world-class medical institution 23andme

tis a massive data mining operation with

thousands of servers ordering great work

every day but the institution of

marriage became the linking

communication subsystem between this

data mining operation with thousands of

servers there and this health care

system with thousands of doctors there

that informational subsystem is an

important part of the entire ecosystem

that the artificial intelligence is

trying to invade at this point I

probably sound like I’m trying to

belittle artificial intelligence we’re

not having a tongue and you suck you

don’t have a tongue which should

causality be the other way around but

I’m not really what these things do is

pretty majestic it’s beautiful

a is going places we’ve never been we

can never go it’s exploring parts of the

world we’ve never seen from a data

perspective and I know I sound like a

proud dad but it is undeniable that when

you have one of these things launched

and they work and things start working

out and I’m working in cancer now so my

stuff sometimes helps people survive

it’s an extremely satisfying feeling but

consider life as an artificial

intelligence you are relying on faint

signals from a distant world you’re

relying on people to remember to tell

you things that are going to be

important to you like female empowerment

zeitgeist you have only very low powered

signals you can send back you could say

things like here’s an average based on

something that I think is kind of like

something else that might be what you’re

looking for and nobody gives you points

for trying if you miss nobody cares

nobody’s going to come by and say oh I’m

sorry and you don’t even have the

satisfaction of drowning your sorrows in

a good curry and writing terrible poetry

of do to your hopelessness because

there’s no profit incentive for you to

have those kind of emotes so you’re

completely at the whim of your makers

and I want to encourage you to think

these things as satellites they’re

living out in a world exploring parts of

the world that we haven’t had access to

yet

but we’re trying to get these signals

back and they’re going to send us back

basically the signals we tell them to

the more inventive we get the better

signals that will come back but

understanding that how much we impact in

our communication subsystems impact how

they respond to our world

is an important part in lowering the

dialogue around artificial intelligence

the snakehead that I brought up in the

first slide that in fact has not taken

over the Potomac River Basin the news

reports are that it got introduced when

a woman did which in Buddhism called an

animal release ceremony so this is a

woman recovers from very terrible

illness and she drew upon the

centuries-old tradition of finding an

animal that was destined for the table

and instead releasing it into the wild

and this is a way to say thank you for

my life back to the universe here’s some

life back to you she and in doing this

she’s performing this incredibly human

thing that is well beyond the experience

of the artificial intelligence and as

well beyond the experience of that

snakehead that got introduced that snake

has no idea what Buddhism is but we all

can respond out everybody in that room

in this room can respond to the beauty

of that gesture but the snakehead was

not as optimized as we saw it to handle

these complex systems that it was

suddenly dumped into for one thing I’m

told that thing tastes delicious thank

[Applause] you

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