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Losing motivation – FunFunFunction #25


good Monday morning I am mvj and this is

fun fun function I need to be honest

with you today I started out doing this

episode as an episode about the find

function in JavaScript because you know

I figured that I would look at a keyword

tool see what people search for on

YouTube and see what what kind of

episode would be popular and bind that’s

up there right in the heavens so bind

would most definitely bring in a lot of

new viewers so I sat down to do it you

know that feeling that you got mean in

school when you had to do some homework

you know you felt like oh I need to do

this I have to do this but I really

don’t want to I would much rather play

xbox that feeling and that’s superdumb

because these videos I make these on my

spare time nobody is forcing me to do

them so it’s really a bizarre thing to

feel but somehow just optimizing after

other people’s needs just the simple act

of doing that would just mess up my

motivation they were here it would just

mess up something in my so highest went

screw it

I’m just gonna go out and I’m gonna make

a video about this instead the loss of

motivation that you feel for a otherwise

pleasurable activity when an external

incentive is introduced I want to talk

about this because I think that a lot of

people will recognize themselves in this

feeling probably it’s something that you

felt when you got your first programming

job programming which was previously

something that you did on your spare

time because you liked it ah it’s now

something that you get paid to do and

somehow that makes you less motivated to

do it that is fascinating to me this is

of course not a new phenomenon this is

something that the author Daniel pink

basically built his entire career

talking about pink talks about three

pillars of motivation autonomy mastery

and purpose purpose is what it sounds

like it’s that you need to feel like

there is a bigger bigger plan behind

what you’re doing and that there is that

it is a worthwhile thing to do in the

grand scheme of things mastery means

that the tasks that you are doing needs

to be in skill level it needs to be at

the edge of your abilities but not

outside of them and also not too far

within your abilities because if it’s

too far outside you will be stressed out

and you will feel like oh you won’t get

a sense of self-efficacy which I will

talk about later that you don’t get that

feeling of I can do this and the

opposite of that is if the activity

feels too much within your abilities you

will feel bored because it’s not

challenging you but the first one

autonomy is the one that I want to spend

the most time on today because I think

it’s the it’s definitely the trickiest

one to pull off you probably felt this

when when there is a task that you feel

like this should be done I want to do

this nobody is telling you to do it

nobody is rewarding you to do it but you

want to do it how you do it and it feels

so good and you are so energetic and it

just flows for you and that is the power

of autonomy oh I need to climb this

there’s a there’s a fence but there’s a

where am I

oh it’s a quarry I’ve never been here

quarries are so cool one of the

components of flow is that you feel a

sense of control and a sense of agency

over the task that you’re performing

which is the same thing that pink talks

about when he talks about autonomy and

to me all that makes sense but it it is

also very tricky for me to transport

that into any kind of professional

situation because to me the very

definition of a job is that you’re doing

something that other people need and

they are willing to pay you for that how

can this be reconciled with autonomy I

think about this subject a lot and it

frustrates me to no end see this this is

cool there’s been a lot of research on

this and in psychology over the years

and there’s actually a theory around

this called motivation crowding theory

and it deals with situations like the

one I’m experiencing today or the

situation that you would experience if

you say say that you were at your

partner’s parents house and you’ve just

had a nice dinner that they offered you

and you say that wow this was such a

nice dinner thank you so much I would

like to offer you $100 for this dinner

even though you are now offering more

than just the thanks you have just made

yourself a really weird person and you

have even somehow cheapen the dinner

right and this is what motivation

crowding theory deals with there is

actually a very specific term for this

whole situation and it’s called the over

justification effect it’s when you add a

reward to a previously unrecorded

activity and that causes the motivation

to shift from inner motivation to outer

motivation which then undermines the

inner motivation but this doesn’t tell

the whole story because this doesn’t

always happen I’ve done tons of work

where I’ve been rewarded handsomely for

them but I’ve I’ve still felt

in control and autonomous and have been

highly motivated while doing them so why

does this happen in some cases and in

some cases not there are of course some

other clever chaps that have made

another theory about this and it’s

called the cognitive evaluation theory

and that theory attempts to explain when

outer motivation will destroy inner

motivation and when it will not so what

cognitive evaluation

what cognitive evaluation theory

suggests is that there are two factors

at play when when you’re confronted with

an external motivator and how that will

affect your motivation and those two

factors are our need to feel competent

and our need to feel in control let’s

first talk about our need to feel

competent I mentioned self-efficacy

earlier and self-efficacy is the the

feeling that I am capable of this you

judge yourself on your capabilities and

you determine that this this given task

that’s within your abilities

self-efficacy is a more specific term

than self-confidence which is a more

general concept for instance I I don’t

wear this hat a lot because ah I don’t

feel self-confident enough to actually

pull it off I feel like I feel like a

steampunk douchebag however my god it’s

the wind is the wind is picking up my

self-efficacy on the other hand that’s

more specific my self-efficacy around

solving a complicated programming

problem that might be very high I feel

like I could do that

I don’t know if anybody is here you know

I can’t see any people and it’s Sunday

I’m recording this on Sundays by the way

yet like the things these things they

make all kinds of noise all the time

that thing over there that’s just a

scary place I wouldn’t want to walk here

at night but this this is so cool this

is so big and your self-efficacy might

very well be helped if somebody offers

you a lot of money to do something

because that you you could interpret

that as somebody wow this person really

believes I can do this or if you’re

about to give a talk and a lot of people

sign up for your talk and it seems like

wow they they signed up for my talk

they believed in my abilities and that

might also cause me to believe in my own

abilities my self-efficacy increases and

my motivation increases but my need to

feel competent is not the only thing

that is at play here remember it’s also

my need to feel in control humans don’t

like oh my god just look at this

building it is so cool and so scary and

just have a look at this window here

this is where they keep the serial

killer humans don’t like to feel like

we’re being controlled maybe it’s some

evolutionary thing I don’t know but we

don’t we don’t like feeling like we’re

being controlled like we’re being cursed

into something during rain I’m gonna

find a roof

to stand under so when you’re in a

situation where somebody offers you a

lot of money to do something or if a lot

of people sign up for your tour or if a

lot of people star your open-source

project on github that might make you

feel more competent and admired and that

might raise your self efficacy but it

might also trigger that part of your

brain that don’t like to be controlled

if it does it will feel like all of this

money or this attention is being somehow

used to control you it’s pressuring you

to do something and then you will not

feel motivated Jesus is really starting

the annoying part is that I don’t know

in practice how to not trigger the fear

of being controlled

whenever I get confronted with an

external incentive whenever money or

deadlines or view counts or likes get

involved I tend to like my motivation

yes tends to go out the window and I

still lack good tooling to deal with

this do you recognize yourself in this

at all what is this what was this even

useful maybe this is just me and some

people writing research papers but if

you do recognize yourself have you found

some way of dealing with this if so

please try to comment down below because

I really would like to know that is it

for this episode of fun fun function I

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here I am going to push through the rain

now I am mpj this is fun fun function

until next Monday morning stay curious

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