– no real talk okay you just saw the new
episode of wicked tuna now it’s time for
wicked tuna Real Talk with captains
weigh in on their week of fishing I’m
your host my name is Mike salka joining
us this time captain Tyler McLaughlin of
the pinwheel captain TJ odd of hot tuna
and captain Dave Marciano of the hard
merchandise guys thanks for joining us
in the last episode only two weeks of
fishing left here the pressure is on to
land the final paychecks before the
season closes it all comes down to
whether the tuna are at the right spot
you choose to fish and at this point in
the game decisions need to pay off so
for Tyler when plots Bank came up empty
this week had a big decision to make
about where to go let’s take a look what
we’re doing here I have no idea like
nothing here I don’t like the spot Oh
like we are I don’t like anything about
this you know what I hate your piss-poor
attitude I know but if you’re not anal
about where you are don’t touch anything
it could be a whole day behind the fleet
Doug because it was one move dude I want
out of here badly staying here is a
complete waste of time
but steaming around is gonna cost me
more money in fuel so I need to make
sure that I picked the right spot
either way I’m taking a chance but I
think I know what we’re gonna do
no tuna here jr. we gotta go to
Tiffany’s let’s pull it up get a 50
let me get though out of this spot
gamble all the ways you want to god I
really like this victims plan I really
do
our dude let’s haul our anchor and get
out of here all right Tyler start of the
week you saw you were gonna go to Platts
and you made the decision pretty quick
that that wasn’t gonna work out headed
to fippennies instead how’d you make the
decision what went into it you know it
been my honey hole all year been
productive for me but life was gone the
whales were gone the bait was gone and
we needed a change how can you tell cuz
you don’t want to be chasing the the
fish around how do you tell the hey this
is dead versus this is gonna liven up
pretty soon you know when we’re fishing
every day we kind of get the pattern
down and get the routine and when the
fish want to roll through and there was
nothing going on there and it was best
we got out of there when I looked around
and I didn’t see a single boat for miles
I do I must have been in the wrong spot
Dave there you are you’re out on
fippennies you’re just doing your thing
there’s nobody around for miles and all
of a sudden here comes Tyler steaming on
in let’s take a look
that’s kind of the right kid he’s the
one playing follow the leader the leader
who’s the leader
yeah maybe I can’t blame the kid look at
if the kid caught fish the way we were
catching fish I the bait so I go on and
find him this season may come down to
him and I duking it out at the last day
of the season just like an old-school
boxing match but Marciano you know the
story there right Rocky Marciano the
undefeated Jeff except we’re defeated a
few years hey hard March your standby
down there Tyler come in I’m sure so
that put one out or any event here I
hope you get one kid but I hope we get
to hell yeah I did
having Tyler here definitely puts the
pressure on but Jay and I can handle it
we’ve been handling it all season you’re
out there Fitness is not a boat around
for miles and got a whole bunch of fish
net we got lucky we filed a fish on
fippennies and for a few days we had it
to ourselves and that’s the game really
out there you know you hope to keep it
as long as you can to yourself you
didn’t seem too concerned when when
Tyler shell I mean you’re the one in the
lead and that’s gotta feel a little bit
different for you yeah you know we were
happy with that and you know normally
that’s not my primary focus but you know
what we were on a roll where you’re
catching fish we’ll take it when it
comes it’s all tell her you’re kind of
back in this again riding that big fish
towards the end really get yourself back
into the competition it was a couple
years ago that you were leading this
thing and ended up winning it how does
it feel be back in the middle in the
hunt of it you know Travis and we lost
David so we’ve been having a tough go
just meet him getting it working but
we’re catching fish together and we get
we’re starting at confidence and it’s
just about us being on top of fish if
this fish under the boat we’re gonna get
them and that’s what’s gonna come down
at the end are well pinwheel hard
merchandise calm and Kellyanne all
caught fish this week which is a good
thing things did not go so well for hot
tuna the guys fish round the clock had a
couple of hook ups but unfortunately
lost both fish so let’s check it out
I’m pretty confident that me and Mike
could get the job done
Oh God there he is
200 feet just walk the nice one 9 10 I
just feel it hook up to life I hope so
dude
Oh
okay Michael walk it back
walk it back
oh oh I don’t like waking up in the
middle of night to lose a fish now we
gotta start all over again and get back
on a ganker rebate regroup so right now
this sucks
alrighty gee I like seeing you guys at
night that’s a different a different
look for the hot tuna we like to snuggle
with each other down there yeah get off
of you to rest yeah we eat a lot of that
family we need lots of you are pretty
close you guys snuggling together at
night yeah Arriba oh yeah that’s my girl
man but uh yeah what uh what are the
extra challenges but dogs aside what are
the extra challenges efficient at night
um well someone’s always got to be awake
you know a lot of times we’re fishing in
areas that are you know a lot of like
traitors and stuff like that and big
draggers so that someone’s gonna be pay
attention to the sound or if the fish
are coming through if there’s bait you
know I mean it’s it’s it’s it’s it’s two
jobs instead of just one really do you
think you think that the fact that it
was night did that did that factor in it
also total yeah now I mean like Jarrett
was right on the bite and I mean it
happens man we have really pulled hooks
all year so we’re just on a little bit
of a rut right now marciana you’ve been
doing this a long long time I don’t mean
that you know let’s say you’re right
maybe even do all right you look like
you’re doing pretty well this year have
you done a lot of night fishing yeah we
do with you know we all try to but again
the issue on my boat is it’s just Jay
and I so we do reach the point where you
know we stay up as much as we can but at
some point we say you know what let’s
bring the rods in so we can get a couple
hours you know good sleep we put the
radar alarm on I’ll sleep in the
captain’s chair and you know at some
point we gotta quit that’s the benefit
though when you get a boat like TJ’s get
the extra guys you can try and keep
somebody up all night you know keep one
guy up two guys sleep and you get a few
fish to of that though it’s definitely
beneficial
most of what we catch probably 80% guys
right is daytime fishing but if there
are fish around you can get some bites
at night so it is worth doing well it’s
sort of interesting for both you Dave
and for you tell you both started off
the season
three on your boat and end up now with
two when you look at TJ with four on
that boat you know excuse yeah you know
we all have our jobs you know Michael’s
like a cook that’s there to you know
yell at everybody benefits we share a
man hate appreciate the question becomes
though do you guys feel as if you know
TJ’s got a pretty big edge on you and so
what you do with two does it does it add
up definitely does I mean he’s got a
huge advantage over us you know yeah
we’re all that great that trip yeah huge
advantage oh yeah well we saw you pull
the hook there right I mean and not just
the first one but the second one the
second that seemed like it was gonna be
a really big fish you really only have
one week left to go the the boats have
fourth place do you feel like that one
may have cost you a shot at the title I
mean that was definitely a bigger fish
that first hook Pole was kind of quick
and it was definitely you know a suspect
how big it was but the second one was a
nice fish and you know we definitely
better put up a shut up because it’s
coming down to the end this week we saw
a pinwheel and fishing vessel tuna.com
each catch and release bluefin that were
smaller than the 73-inch limit the guys
on comm actually put a tag on their
short before releasing it look like this
you gonna call that I can’t see him go
to the right don’t let it go all over
the place
grab the harpoon
got a short a little guy let’s tag him
Sandro gets us fish to the boat and we
can see it’s way too small
anything below 73 inches we let go and
that’s all about sustainability we did a
good deed hopefully they’d be rewarded
get the tags already did you want to
grab the girl we’ll pull them in we’ll
tag them sometimes when we release fish
we tag it will help researchers know the
growth rate of the fish and where they
were released and where they migrated to
a lot of information can be a teen from
tagging a tuna fish see real gentle with
him ready to tag fish okay there’s no
question there’s more shorts right now
and there was in the beginning the year
I know the fish are biting
it’s close to the end of the season
we’re gonna keep going until we’re back
on top of the fleet all right that’s one
down let’s go again oh there’s daddy oh
yeah guys we saw dave calm they’re
actually hook up and gets a short
decides to tag it more soon you’ve been
doing this a long time when do you
decide to tag one when we do make that
call okay it’s a shot usually we if we’d
have some tags we’ll tag the fish log
the location the size of fish estimated
size what time we caught it and catch it
release it that all goes into building
in the sustainability of the resource
the more information we can gather the
better fishery management managers and
scientists will be able to help us as
fishermen you know help rebuild that
resource because you know without a
doubt fishermen these days and it’s been
like that for a lot of years definitely
want to be pilot solution not buy the
problem at some point are you gonna reap
the benefit of the information not just
in terms of sustaining the fishery but
also figuring out where they are
different exactly you know we we when we
find out the more work we do with
tagging the more information we find out
about their habits their behavior stuff
that we use to guess out but now due to
tallying you know the scientists can
kind of prove what we think are our
theories sometimes it sees you how
important is the responsibility factor
here I mean how active are all the
fishermen in making sure that you follow
it’s huge I mean the United States we
have such strict rules that we abide by
and and we’re actually sustaining the
fishery where there’s other countries
foreign countries that just kill
everything you know I mean like they’ve
said it is
crucial information that we get from
these people to you know figure out
these fish their patterns and then we
can use that to benefit us in the future
try and catch them I’m sure it’s pretty
frustrating Tyler you catch a fish and
then you got to throw the thing back
it’s not you’ve been fighting the thing
even for a little while but just give
you a sense of hope of okay well that’s
another fish that’s gonna be around long
term for me to catch down the road yeah
I grew up tagging fish with my dad and
something we always did it was like a
fun thing to do and try and see if you
know where your fish was going to go
what its growth rate was gonna be but
for me it’s like at least you’re getting
bites so at least the fish are
interested in what you’re putting out
and soon enough a big one’s gonna come
by alright it’s been a long time coming
but yes the Kellyanne finally caught
their fifth fish of the season after
what a four week drought let’s take a
look at that rod a little bigger than we
thought and he got a good look at him
now
yeah I think he’s there won’t you take a
look we haven’t caught a fish in three
weeks we have got all in the special
I go forward down
which our jobs out in get out of my fly
real rear wheel
no joke just a gap get the girls go
downtown house ready
get it get it get it gonna get it – I’ll
tell easy why did you do that
yeah all right tops is good-looking fish
nice collar we are so stumped
haha slob hey Dad hey Doc it’s a nice
fish I think it’s a good sign hopefully
we can keep it going we’re not going out
for martinis with commercial fishing for
a paycheck because our families need
money that’s what we do one two three
fellows yeah
all right let’s go get his brother and
his sister yeah guys Paul has throws a
little bit with that boat this year as
we know now there’s a rumor and a legend
that he’s one of the great bluefin
fishermen of the northeast of Gloucester
what would dream it is Nate just ask if
he’ll tell you it’s really showing you
guys aspire to be a captain so much so I
think I know where you’re going with the
answer but how legitimate is the legend
Dave no wait look it is legitimate his
family has a long history catching
bluefin tuna and what Paul’s experience
is what we’ve all experienced you know
we could all say it right you know some
years you can do nothing wrong in some
years you could do nothing right and I
think we’ve all been there yeah at one
point right he’s definitely the hydrant
this year no but I gotta be honest his
crew it’s not as crews fault right now
you know it’s his decision where they go
I mean the steering wheel makes the call
and if and when I see his crew is
definitely right there backing him up
and he’s not really given them the
support they need well Tyler you brought
it up I mean there’s a difference
between Paul the captain and Paul the
mate what is that difference well you
know Paul II know many fish with me he
worked in the square into the boat and
he’s great at you know hooking fish
reeling them in harpooning him all that
aspect when you put the steering wheel
in his hand and he asked him to go find
some tunas I think he’s a little bit out
to lunch what about the leadership
element cuz it’s something you’ve dealt
with I know this year is trying to learn
how to be a leader on the boat for me I
tried to mold Travis this year and for
me is all about just I do my job and he
does his job and everything will be okay
it seems like Paul’s trying to do too
much you know he’s trying to like catch
too many tunas where he needs just focus
on catching one fish and start there get
the crew to come together get everyone
on the boat of the same page and then
maybe you’ll get hot and catch the fish
TJ you had some of the same I mean you
guys have had some different roles on
your boat your dad oh wait so you know
some guys can handle the pressure and
some guys can’t and nothing against Paul
I think he’s a great fisherman and a
great asset to a boat but it does not
look like he can handle the pressure
there’s no doubt about I mean it’s not
as crews fault you know it’s his
decision to put these guys on fish and
it’s their job to work when the rod
bends they can only do so much with that
rod doesn’t Bend Dave not a lot of doubt
on your
what about who the captain is well yeah
yeah you know I think part of the team
would fall to right is that’s part of
the learning curve cuz being the captain
you know does it make you God right you
have a leader you call the shots but you
still need the team to work with you
you know that’s essential and I think
you know Paul’s struggling with that a
little bit you know what I mean just try
to you know that that leadership we’re
okay we got to do this together but
still at the same point there is one guy
who makes the calls and who’s
responsible for EJ question a lot of
your decisions I haven’t seen a lot of
they may actually think it’s one guys
get tossed over so that’s real simple
but all right there’s one week left
until the end of the season it really
does seem like anyone in the top four
the hard merchandise fishing vessel
tuna.com pinwheel or hot tuna are all in
it they all have a chance of coming out
on top so guys let’s start with you
Tyler what are you gonna do in these
finals this final week the final few
days efficient to make sure that your
boat comes out on top I’m gonna do
everything that Paul hasn’t been doing
and I’m gonna keep putting fish on the
deck of the boat
DJ how about you I’m gonna pray to the
tune of God’s very very heavily that’s
for hongcun it’s what does a prayer
start with Oh tuna gods uh divided sky
the wind blows you look up for the tuna
guys don’t ya down just so I know
they’re up they’re always on there know
they’ll put a flock of birds above you I
need something man
and then finally Dave you’re in the lead
this is it this is you’re in a different
spot you’ve got to protect so how how
does your game plan differ change them
not really much again we got here just
by doing what we do best just keep
grinding just keep going and hopefully
our luck holds out you know some some
guys say there’s no such thing as luck
I’ll be the first to admit yes you need
skill you need a good crew that’s
crucial but at some point luck plays a
factor Dave on the.com he don’t think
there’s any luck involved at all he’ll
even tell you no such thing as luck I
think that’s a bunch of hooey a little
bit of luck is what got us to where
we’re at and I’ll be the first to it
first to admit I’d rather be lucky than
good any day of the week me too do they
have a prevent defense in fishing
there’s no prevent this there’s no way
to sort of make sure you sit on this
lead no you know look I’ll do the best
thing
and we’ll keep grinding but you know
ultimately my goal is to catch as many
as I can whether it’s the first you know
the most of the fleet or the last of the
fleet as long as we’ve done its best
weekend for the year that’s what makes
me happy
all right that’s going to do it for us
tonight big big thank you to captain
Tyler McLaughlin pinwheel captain TJ out
of hot tuna and of course captain Dave
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episode of wicked tuna now it’s time for
wicked tuna Real Talk with captains
weigh in on their week of fishing I’m
your host my name is Mike salka joining
us this time captain Tyler McLaughlin of
the pinwheel captain TJ odd of hot tuna
and captain Dave Marciano of the hard
merchandise guys thanks for joining us
in the last episode only two weeks of
fishing left here the pressure is on to
land the final paychecks before the
season closes it all comes down to
whether the tuna are at the right spot
you choose to fish and at this point in
the game decisions need to pay off so
for Tyler when plots Bank came up empty
this week had a big decision to make
about where to go let’s take a look what
we’re doing here I have no idea like
nothing here I don’t like the spot Oh
like we are I don’t like anything about
this you know what I hate your piss-poor
attitude I know but if you’re not anal
about where you are don’t touch anything
it could be a whole day behind the fleet
Doug because it was one move dude I want
out of here badly staying here is a
complete waste of time
but steaming around is gonna cost me
more money in fuel so I need to make
sure that I picked the right spot
either way I’m taking a chance but I
think I know what we’re gonna do
no tuna here jr. we gotta go to
Tiffany’s let’s pull it up get a 50
let me get though out of this spot
gamble all the ways you want to god I
really like this victims plan I really
do
our dude let’s haul our anchor and get
out of here all right Tyler start of the
week you saw you were gonna go to Platts
and you made the decision pretty quick
that that wasn’t gonna work out headed
to fippennies instead how’d you make the
decision what went into it you know it
been my honey hole all year been
productive for me but life was gone the
whales were gone the bait was gone and
we needed a change how can you tell cuz
you don’t want to be chasing the the
fish around how do you tell the hey this
is dead versus this is gonna liven up
pretty soon you know when we’re fishing
every day we kind of get the pattern
down and get the routine and when the
fish want to roll through and there was
nothing going on there and it was best
we got out of there when I looked around
and I didn’t see a single boat for miles
I do I must have been in the wrong spot
Dave there you are you’re out on
fippennies you’re just doing your thing
there’s nobody around for miles and all
of a sudden here comes Tyler steaming on
in let’s take a look
that’s kind of the right kid he’s the
one playing follow the leader the leader
who’s the leader
yeah maybe I can’t blame the kid look at
if the kid caught fish the way we were
catching fish I the bait so I go on and
find him this season may come down to
him and I duking it out at the last day
of the season just like an old-school
boxing match but Marciano you know the
story there right Rocky Marciano the
undefeated Jeff except we’re defeated a
few years hey hard March your standby
down there Tyler come in I’m sure so
that put one out or any event here I
hope you get one kid but I hope we get
to hell yeah I did
having Tyler here definitely puts the
pressure on but Jay and I can handle it
we’ve been handling it all season you’re
out there Fitness is not a boat around
for miles and got a whole bunch of fish
net we got lucky we filed a fish on
fippennies and for a few days we had it
to ourselves and that’s the game really
out there you know you hope to keep it
as long as you can to yourself you
didn’t seem too concerned when when
Tyler shell I mean you’re the one in the
lead and that’s gotta feel a little bit
different for you yeah you know we were
happy with that and you know normally
that’s not my primary focus but you know
what we were on a roll where you’re
catching fish we’ll take it when it
comes it’s all tell her you’re kind of
back in this again riding that big fish
towards the end really get yourself back
into the competition it was a couple
years ago that you were leading this
thing and ended up winning it how does
it feel be back in the middle in the
hunt of it you know Travis and we lost
David so we’ve been having a tough go
just meet him getting it working but
we’re catching fish together and we get
we’re starting at confidence and it’s
just about us being on top of fish if
this fish under the boat we’re gonna get
them and that’s what’s gonna come down
at the end are well pinwheel hard
merchandise calm and Kellyanne all
caught fish this week which is a good
thing things did not go so well for hot
tuna the guys fish round the clock had a
couple of hook ups but unfortunately
lost both fish so let’s check it out
I’m pretty confident that me and Mike
could get the job done
Oh God there he is
200 feet just walk the nice one 9 10 I
just feel it hook up to life I hope so
dude
Oh
okay Michael walk it back
walk it back
oh oh I don’t like waking up in the
middle of night to lose a fish now we
gotta start all over again and get back
on a ganker rebate regroup so right now
this sucks
alrighty gee I like seeing you guys at
night that’s a different a different
look for the hot tuna we like to snuggle
with each other down there yeah get off
of you to rest yeah we eat a lot of that
family we need lots of you are pretty
close you guys snuggling together at
night yeah Arriba oh yeah that’s my girl
man but uh yeah what uh what are the
extra challenges but dogs aside what are
the extra challenges efficient at night
um well someone’s always got to be awake
you know a lot of times we’re fishing in
areas that are you know a lot of like
traitors and stuff like that and big
draggers so that someone’s gonna be pay
attention to the sound or if the fish
are coming through if there’s bait you
know I mean it’s it’s it’s it’s it’s two
jobs instead of just one really do you
think you think that the fact that it
was night did that did that factor in it
also total yeah now I mean like Jarrett
was right on the bite and I mean it
happens man we have really pulled hooks
all year so we’re just on a little bit
of a rut right now marciana you’ve been
doing this a long long time I don’t mean
that you know let’s say you’re right
maybe even do all right you look like
you’re doing pretty well this year have
you done a lot of night fishing yeah we
do with you know we all try to but again
the issue on my boat is it’s just Jay
and I so we do reach the point where you
know we stay up as much as we can but at
some point we say you know what let’s
bring the rods in so we can get a couple
hours you know good sleep we put the
radar alarm on I’ll sleep in the
captain’s chair and you know at some
point we gotta quit that’s the benefit
though when you get a boat like TJ’s get
the extra guys you can try and keep
somebody up all night you know keep one
guy up two guys sleep and you get a few
fish to of that though it’s definitely
beneficial
most of what we catch probably 80% guys
right is daytime fishing but if there
are fish around you can get some bites
at night so it is worth doing well it’s
sort of interesting for both you Dave
and for you tell you both started off
the season
three on your boat and end up now with
two when you look at TJ with four on
that boat you know excuse yeah you know
we all have our jobs you know Michael’s
like a cook that’s there to you know
yell at everybody benefits we share a
man hate appreciate the question becomes
though do you guys feel as if you know
TJ’s got a pretty big edge on you and so
what you do with two does it does it add
up definitely does I mean he’s got a
huge advantage over us you know yeah
we’re all that great that trip yeah huge
advantage oh yeah well we saw you pull
the hook there right I mean and not just
the first one but the second one the
second that seemed like it was gonna be
a really big fish you really only have
one week left to go the the boats have
fourth place do you feel like that one
may have cost you a shot at the title I
mean that was definitely a bigger fish
that first hook Pole was kind of quick
and it was definitely you know a suspect
how big it was but the second one was a
nice fish and you know we definitely
better put up a shut up because it’s
coming down to the end this week we saw
a pinwheel and fishing vessel tuna.com
each catch and release bluefin that were
smaller than the 73-inch limit the guys
on comm actually put a tag on their
short before releasing it look like this
you gonna call that I can’t see him go
to the right don’t let it go all over
the place
grab the harpoon
got a short a little guy let’s tag him
Sandro gets us fish to the boat and we
can see it’s way too small
anything below 73 inches we let go and
that’s all about sustainability we did a
good deed hopefully they’d be rewarded
get the tags already did you want to
grab the girl we’ll pull them in we’ll
tag them sometimes when we release fish
we tag it will help researchers know the
growth rate of the fish and where they
were released and where they migrated to
a lot of information can be a teen from
tagging a tuna fish see real gentle with
him ready to tag fish okay there’s no
question there’s more shorts right now
and there was in the beginning the year
I know the fish are biting
it’s close to the end of the season
we’re gonna keep going until we’re back
on top of the fleet all right that’s one
down let’s go again oh there’s daddy oh
yeah guys we saw dave calm they’re
actually hook up and gets a short
decides to tag it more soon you’ve been
doing this a long time when do you
decide to tag one when we do make that
call okay it’s a shot usually we if we’d
have some tags we’ll tag the fish log
the location the size of fish estimated
size what time we caught it and catch it
release it that all goes into building
in the sustainability of the resource
the more information we can gather the
better fishery management managers and
scientists will be able to help us as
fishermen you know help rebuild that
resource because you know without a
doubt fishermen these days and it’s been
like that for a lot of years definitely
want to be pilot solution not buy the
problem at some point are you gonna reap
the benefit of the information not just
in terms of sustaining the fishery but
also figuring out where they are
different exactly you know we we when we
find out the more work we do with
tagging the more information we find out
about their habits their behavior stuff
that we use to guess out but now due to
tallying you know the scientists can
kind of prove what we think are our
theories sometimes it sees you how
important is the responsibility factor
here I mean how active are all the
fishermen in making sure that you follow
it’s huge I mean the United States we
have such strict rules that we abide by
and and we’re actually sustaining the
fishery where there’s other countries
foreign countries that just kill
everything you know I mean like they’ve
said it is
crucial information that we get from
these people to you know figure out
these fish their patterns and then we
can use that to benefit us in the future
try and catch them I’m sure it’s pretty
frustrating Tyler you catch a fish and
then you got to throw the thing back
it’s not you’ve been fighting the thing
even for a little while but just give
you a sense of hope of okay well that’s
another fish that’s gonna be around long
term for me to catch down the road yeah
I grew up tagging fish with my dad and
something we always did it was like a
fun thing to do and try and see if you
know where your fish was going to go
what its growth rate was gonna be but
for me it’s like at least you’re getting
bites so at least the fish are
interested in what you’re putting out
and soon enough a big one’s gonna come
by alright it’s been a long time coming
but yes the Kellyanne finally caught
their fifth fish of the season after
what a four week drought let’s take a
look at that rod a little bigger than we
thought and he got a good look at him
now
yeah I think he’s there won’t you take a
look we haven’t caught a fish in three
weeks we have got all in the special
I go forward down
which our jobs out in get out of my fly
real rear wheel
no joke just a gap get the girls go
downtown house ready
get it get it get it gonna get it – I’ll
tell easy why did you do that
yeah all right tops is good-looking fish
nice collar we are so stumped
haha slob hey Dad hey Doc it’s a nice
fish I think it’s a good sign hopefully
we can keep it going we’re not going out
for martinis with commercial fishing for
a paycheck because our families need
money that’s what we do one two three
fellows yeah
all right let’s go get his brother and
his sister yeah guys Paul has throws a
little bit with that boat this year as
we know now there’s a rumor and a legend
that he’s one of the great bluefin
fishermen of the northeast of Gloucester
what would dream it is Nate just ask if
he’ll tell you it’s really showing you
guys aspire to be a captain so much so I
think I know where you’re going with the
answer but how legitimate is the legend
Dave no wait look it is legitimate his
family has a long history catching
bluefin tuna and what Paul’s experience
is what we’ve all experienced you know
we could all say it right you know some
years you can do nothing wrong in some
years you could do nothing right and I
think we’ve all been there yeah at one
point right he’s definitely the hydrant
this year no but I gotta be honest his
crew it’s not as crews fault right now
you know it’s his decision where they go
I mean the steering wheel makes the call
and if and when I see his crew is
definitely right there backing him up
and he’s not really given them the
support they need well Tyler you brought
it up I mean there’s a difference
between Paul the captain and Paul the
mate what is that difference well you
know Paul II know many fish with me he
worked in the square into the boat and
he’s great at you know hooking fish
reeling them in harpooning him all that
aspect when you put the steering wheel
in his hand and he asked him to go find
some tunas I think he’s a little bit out
to lunch what about the leadership
element cuz it’s something you’ve dealt
with I know this year is trying to learn
how to be a leader on the boat for me I
tried to mold Travis this year and for
me is all about just I do my job and he
does his job and everything will be okay
it seems like Paul’s trying to do too
much you know he’s trying to like catch
too many tunas where he needs just focus
on catching one fish and start there get
the crew to come together get everyone
on the boat of the same page and then
maybe you’ll get hot and catch the fish
TJ you had some of the same I mean you
guys have had some different roles on
your boat your dad oh wait so you know
some guys can handle the pressure and
some guys can’t and nothing against Paul
I think he’s a great fisherman and a
great asset to a boat but it does not
look like he can handle the pressure
there’s no doubt about I mean it’s not
as crews fault you know it’s his
decision to put these guys on fish and
it’s their job to work when the rod
bends they can only do so much with that
rod doesn’t Bend Dave not a lot of doubt
on your
what about who the captain is well yeah
yeah you know I think part of the team
would fall to right is that’s part of
the learning curve cuz being the captain
you know does it make you God right you
have a leader you call the shots but you
still need the team to work with you
you know that’s essential and I think
you know Paul’s struggling with that a
little bit you know what I mean just try
to you know that that leadership we’re
okay we got to do this together but
still at the same point there is one guy
who makes the calls and who’s
responsible for EJ question a lot of
your decisions I haven’t seen a lot of
they may actually think it’s one guys
get tossed over so that’s real simple
but all right there’s one week left
until the end of the season it really
does seem like anyone in the top four
the hard merchandise fishing vessel
tuna.com pinwheel or hot tuna are all in
it they all have a chance of coming out
on top so guys let’s start with you
Tyler what are you gonna do in these
finals this final week the final few
days efficient to make sure that your
boat comes out on top I’m gonna do
everything that Paul hasn’t been doing
and I’m gonna keep putting fish on the
deck of the boat
DJ how about you I’m gonna pray to the
tune of God’s very very heavily that’s
for hongcun it’s what does a prayer
start with Oh tuna gods uh divided sky
the wind blows you look up for the tuna
guys don’t ya down just so I know
they’re up they’re always on there know
they’ll put a flock of birds above you I
need something man
and then finally Dave you’re in the lead
this is it this is you’re in a different
spot you’ve got to protect so how how
does your game plan differ change them
not really much again we got here just
by doing what we do best just keep
grinding just keep going and hopefully
our luck holds out you know some some
guys say there’s no such thing as luck
I’ll be the first to admit yes you need
skill you need a good crew that’s
crucial but at some point luck plays a
factor Dave on the.com he don’t think
there’s any luck involved at all he’ll
even tell you no such thing as luck I
think that’s a bunch of hooey a little
bit of luck is what got us to where
we’re at and I’ll be the first to it
first to admit I’d rather be lucky than
good any day of the week me too do they
have a prevent defense in fishing
there’s no prevent this there’s no way
to sort of make sure you sit on this
lead no you know look I’ll do the best
thing
and we’ll keep grinding but you know
ultimately my goal is to catch as many
as I can whether it’s the first you know
the most of the fleet or the last of the
fleet as long as we’ve done its best
weekend for the year that’s what makes
me happy
all right that’s going to do it for us
tonight big big thank you to captain
Tyler McLaughlin pinwheel captain TJ out
of hot tuna and of course captain Dave
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