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newest episode of wicked tuna now it is
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weekly web show where summer
Gloucester’s best bluefin tuna captain’s
join me to discuss the latest two
episode my name is Mike sulk I’ll be
your host once again in the hot seat
this week we’ve got captain dave
guerrero fishing vessel tuna.com captain
TJ out of hot tuna and captain paul
Ebert of the Kellyanne well a lot to
talk about this week first and foremost
on everybody’s mind I’m sure is what
happened between Dave and TJ last week
dave was struggling to find fish and TJ
helped him out by putting him on the
spot where the hot tuna had just caught
three fish so TJ of course expected Dave
to let him know if the bite was on again
in that spot but when Dave caught on the
spot didn’t exactly tell TJ let’s see
what happened anyway something was it
I’m caught between a rock and a hard
place I’ve got a fish on the deck right
now TJ he put us on the fish but I can’t
tell him on the radio because I know if
I told TJ right now everybody’s gonna
know it quiet
yeah I’m still in the same place here
pretty quiet
any marks
one more I could Sun up and that’s it
nothing else oh my god yeah waste of
time it’s amazing all that wails there
God you think
crazy getting definitely spectators that
I cat not too much going on up there on
TJ’s had a spot right now that’s totally
dead we got fish here and we could take
advantage of that and surpassing by good
luck all right
thanks DJ our Dave let’s start here I
mean I you know I think there’s always
two sides to every story and let’s have
you give us your side of it what what
happened here why would I want to tell
him we’re official er I want to catch
three fish and that’s that’s my goal I
want to be on top I got to be on top is
it hard at all to hear some of those
things said about you I don’t care about
it would you do anything differently if
you would do that again no they’re the
same thing does it change the way you’ll
do business TJ in the film not with Dave
but in general but sharing information
no never I’ve only gotten so far in the
fishery because of my relationships with
people and because of networking with
people whether it be from the Gulf of
Maine down to Cape Cod and I don’t like
to be lied to so it’s not going to
change my approach you know amen
you know shame on me if you burn me
that’s my problem but I’m not gonna
change who I am
never no way I didn’t get the call that
I hoped I got but he did what he did to
protect himself but to protect it and to
gain the lead and ultimately I can’t
really hate on him for that you know is
it thing that happened of course but you
know it’s competitive fishery we’re
competing against each other and I mean
that that’s how the cards fell that day
yeah I he’d have to agree with me and
he’ll have to agree with me that any one
of us if we’re on the meat right we’re
marking fish and there’s not a boat in
sight we’re gonna better than that I
mean that’s like a dream come true for a
tuna cabin or any tuna boat yeah
so I mean III have to be honest with you
I’d like to be that position to in that
moment I fished with a guy that nobody
liked but we were like the hottest boat
around for years we had so many enemies
because we wouldn’t tell our friends
what we will catch him because people
were at the dock everyone like hated us
and called us liars
what we used to finally say is don’t ask
us no questions and we won’t be lying
that’s no questions you get no lies
right that’s it comes down because when
you tell one person that person tells
their friend because they are obligated
to tell a friend when it comes down to
it this is a very cutthroat I said it
from day when this they were worth fifty
cents a pound
it was cutthroat we’re making 300 bucks
a fish and we used to cut each other’s
throat and lie to each other back in the
day we could some big game tuna everyone
wants the biggest the most and now
they’re worth money
it’s like screw you I got a family I’m
supporting myself well all of the hot
tuna guys this week got pretty worked up
they ended up confronting Dave and his
crew we’ll see what that looks like here
we’ll see this could be interesting
I don’t think Dave is gonna show any
remorse I think he’s gonna deny deny
deny I’m sure he’s thinking what can I
say to cover my ass
scumbag what are you doing tap how many
you get three epic fishing I’ll tell you
that much did you break your fingers
fight them all
you couldn’t Allah follow you and I work
together you know I talked to you guys
on the radio oh come on Here I am
helping the guy trying to put him on the
meat and he basically just spit in my
face I can’t trust the guy and all these
people that tried to warn me are
laughing behind my back right now
I look like a fool we thought our buddy
dave was gonna put us under me then the
motherlode showed up
this guy he’s one of two out of the
three years and people still hating me
where’s Tyler I have no idea I heard you
guys on the radio if he just shut his
mouth and fish he’d be alright we’re out
of here
are we good now it really sucks what
they did to us but we can’t afford this
well on I don’t believe a word out of
his mouth we just got to get back out
fishing and try and salvage this trip
let’s get out of here get them daddy
TJ dave seems to think you’re gonna get
over this and that you guys can continue
to work together I mean you know I was
definitely aggravated in the moment did
I miss out on some fishing
yes but hey I take the high road man I
mean hey he got me if you got me
whatever but it is what it is I know the
other day a lot of guys give Dave a lot
in the fishery and they call names but
you know what it’s because he’s
successful but he’s he produces but the
end of the day if he catches a fish
that’s worth $12,000 I’m not gonna lie
to you and say I didn’t want it but I
know if I was thinking they’d be one of
the first guys there and and I firmly
believe that absolutely right would you
say absolutely you have to make third
fish is ever a long memory with these
things though in the in the fleet I had
to put myself in his position it’s
coming towards the end we’re all
fighting to get this top spot and I
gotta be honest it’s it’d be a tough
call to say I wouldn’t have maybe done
the same thing so competition aside I
mean you look there and and clearly it’s
it’s people are listening radio chatter
you can’t do it what about a text
message what about a cell phone cell
phones don’t work can’t contact can’t
call land when you’re 60 miles offshore
and so there’s nothing is like
variations if it’s northwest and it’s
clear out you might reach and I think
that’s what people don’t necessarily
understand Dave is that for you to
communicate with TJ in that situation
the only way for you to do it is to do
it on the radio – so you have no way of
telling him anything without alerting
everybody I mean you didn’t get on the
roof with tinfoil one yeah you don’t
have a secret frequency I can’t talk –
it does go in and out if he does put it
on open channel he does reach me it
could be twenty other boats listening
well yeah I mean it’d be game over if it
was me in your situation I would have
filled the boat and when
and told them then but not on the radio
you guys have talked a lot about how
tough it is once everybody shows up in
the sidewalk officially in that moment
you know I could understand his train of
thought but it still sucked but you were
all cutthroat at times I mean I mean
lying if I said I saw someone go off
next to me one of these guys and I
wasn’t aggravating the moment but you
know it is what it is you have to just
move forward and learn from it
TJ you mentioned having a bull’s-eye in
fact having a whole arsenal on Dave he’s
the guy on top so your gun form on its
tackle the guy with the ball now I mean
he’s winning and everyone wants to take
him out I mean everyone knows this time
of year Dave always gets hot and
sometimes he just he walks away so it’s
it’s our job to try you know get him and
take him out your dad reacted pretty
strongly to though he seemed pretty
upset about upset about it but when I
confronted Dave there on the water it
really I was somewhat over it I just
kind of wanted to call him out and make
a little bit of light of it but at the
end of the day I don’t hate Dave let’s
move past this and get over to the
Kellyanne the bad luck did unfortunately
continue this week Paul your only hook
up was a shark nice one yeah well this
is what a look like
I don’t know tuna
go ahead let off the inka no moron here
we go stay on him
what’s the anchor
No
seriously we can’t help what bites the
line but we really needed this one to be
a tuna we have to get a few more fish
thought it was a real deal yeah that’s
the thing the socks Broadband’s you
think it’s the real deal you’re all
pumped up amped up getting off the
anchor fighting fighting fighting it
comes up and it’s another shot that’s
simple baby it’s getting to the end of
the week and you still haven’t caught a
fish and I’m worried just gotta go catch
a fish
hi Paul it’s been what four tuna now and
twelve weeks of fishing there’s only
three weeks of this season left what’s
the game plan here because your tunas
not gonna get it done no right now is
when everyone makes all their money in a
couple of weeks of this fishery it’s
been like that forever during the season
you just get by we’re way behind you
know I mean we’re way way behind but we
can stay in the game and not lose money
if we stay focused and days on yeah in a
couple days you can BAM
right out if it ends up being as tough a
season as it’s been the entire time for
me I’m gonna give up I can’t I have a
daughter I can’t give up will you make
sure to head down to North Carolina and
does this change the way you handle the
offseason it depends on the season it
depends on where I’m at at home you know
I’m trying to get my own boat and
establish you just need a couple of good
days that’s all it’s all a couple good
tide changes and changes everything
that’s it you got a plan is there a
place you’re gonna go
are you gonna tell everybody where
you’re going or are you gonna keep that
a secret
Oh have you learned anything from this
episode or not you should go to oh you
know I’m gonna keep things undercover
for now I’m not throwing you you know
damn well I’m
not a lot of information being shared I
think after this know this it’s a very
tight competition between these guys and
I’ve been struggling all year but my
focus is to keep them together keep the
guys on the boat together so we can end
and not lose money you will you always
come on strong at the end always because
I don’t stop I steady all the time no
matter how many fish you lose I’m like
alright let’s go get another one well
nobody will ever question that no matter
how bad things look Paul’s always got
that attitude it’s fishing he’s supposed
to enjoy it and make money at the same
time alright well it’s just a lot of
pressures at the same time alright guys
well that’ll do it for this explosive
episode that is wicked tuna real talk
for this week a huge thank you to
captain Dave Carrera fishing vessel
tuna.com captain TJ out of hot tuna and
captain Paul Ebert of the Kellyanne you
can catch all the Real Talk episodes by
going to NatGeo tv.com slash Real Talk
we’ll be back again next week right
after another all-new episode of wicked
tuna
next Sunday 9 p.m. a National Geographic
Channel on next week’s episode the
fallout from TJ’s now strained
relationship with Dave continues and one
boat has a truly amazing week next week
on realtalk Dave will be back again so
will TJ along with captain Dave Marciano
of hard merchandise you can get all your
wicked tuna fix by liking us on Facebook
or following us on Twitter to get daily
updates we’ll see you next time
on wicked tuna real talk
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newest episode of wicked tuna now it is
time for wicked tuna Real Talk the
weekly web show where summer
Gloucester’s best bluefin tuna captain’s
join me to discuss the latest two
episode my name is Mike sulk I’ll be
your host once again in the hot seat
this week we’ve got captain dave
guerrero fishing vessel tuna.com captain
TJ out of hot tuna and captain paul
Ebert of the Kellyanne well a lot to
talk about this week first and foremost
on everybody’s mind I’m sure is what
happened between Dave and TJ last week
dave was struggling to find fish and TJ
helped him out by putting him on the
spot where the hot tuna had just caught
three fish so TJ of course expected Dave
to let him know if the bite was on again
in that spot but when Dave caught on the
spot didn’t exactly tell TJ let’s see
what happened anyway something was it
I’m caught between a rock and a hard
place I’ve got a fish on the deck right
now TJ he put us on the fish but I can’t
tell him on the radio because I know if
I told TJ right now everybody’s gonna
know it quiet
yeah I’m still in the same place here
pretty quiet
any marks
one more I could Sun up and that’s it
nothing else oh my god yeah waste of
time it’s amazing all that wails there
God you think
crazy getting definitely spectators that
I cat not too much going on up there on
TJ’s had a spot right now that’s totally
dead we got fish here and we could take
advantage of that and surpassing by good
luck all right
thanks DJ our Dave let’s start here I
mean I you know I think there’s always
two sides to every story and let’s have
you give us your side of it what what
happened here why would I want to tell
him we’re official er I want to catch
three fish and that’s that’s my goal I
want to be on top I got to be on top is
it hard at all to hear some of those
things said about you I don’t care about
it would you do anything differently if
you would do that again no they’re the
same thing does it change the way you’ll
do business TJ in the film not with Dave
but in general but sharing information
no never I’ve only gotten so far in the
fishery because of my relationships with
people and because of networking with
people whether it be from the Gulf of
Maine down to Cape Cod and I don’t like
to be lied to so it’s not going to
change my approach you know amen
you know shame on me if you burn me
that’s my problem but I’m not gonna
change who I am
never no way I didn’t get the call that
I hoped I got but he did what he did to
protect himself but to protect it and to
gain the lead and ultimately I can’t
really hate on him for that you know is
it thing that happened of course but you
know it’s competitive fishery we’re
competing against each other and I mean
that that’s how the cards fell that day
yeah I he’d have to agree with me and
he’ll have to agree with me that any one
of us if we’re on the meat right we’re
marking fish and there’s not a boat in
sight we’re gonna better than that I
mean that’s like a dream come true for a
tuna cabin or any tuna boat yeah
so I mean III have to be honest with you
I’d like to be that position to in that
moment I fished with a guy that nobody
liked but we were like the hottest boat
around for years we had so many enemies
because we wouldn’t tell our friends
what we will catch him because people
were at the dock everyone like hated us
and called us liars
what we used to finally say is don’t ask
us no questions and we won’t be lying
that’s no questions you get no lies
right that’s it comes down because when
you tell one person that person tells
their friend because they are obligated
to tell a friend when it comes down to
it this is a very cutthroat I said it
from day when this they were worth fifty
cents a pound
it was cutthroat we’re making 300 bucks
a fish and we used to cut each other’s
throat and lie to each other back in the
day we could some big game tuna everyone
wants the biggest the most and now
they’re worth money
it’s like screw you I got a family I’m
supporting myself well all of the hot
tuna guys this week got pretty worked up
they ended up confronting Dave and his
crew we’ll see what that looks like here
we’ll see this could be interesting
I don’t think Dave is gonna show any
remorse I think he’s gonna deny deny
deny I’m sure he’s thinking what can I
say to cover my ass
scumbag what are you doing tap how many
you get three epic fishing I’ll tell you
that much did you break your fingers
fight them all
you couldn’t Allah follow you and I work
together you know I talked to you guys
on the radio oh come on Here I am
helping the guy trying to put him on the
meat and he basically just spit in my
face I can’t trust the guy and all these
people that tried to warn me are
laughing behind my back right now
I look like a fool we thought our buddy
dave was gonna put us under me then the
motherlode showed up
this guy he’s one of two out of the
three years and people still hating me
where’s Tyler I have no idea I heard you
guys on the radio if he just shut his
mouth and fish he’d be alright we’re out
of here
are we good now it really sucks what
they did to us but we can’t afford this
well on I don’t believe a word out of
his mouth we just got to get back out
fishing and try and salvage this trip
let’s get out of here get them daddy
TJ dave seems to think you’re gonna get
over this and that you guys can continue
to work together I mean you know I was
definitely aggravated in the moment did
I miss out on some fishing
yes but hey I take the high road man I
mean hey he got me if you got me
whatever but it is what it is I know the
other day a lot of guys give Dave a lot
in the fishery and they call names but
you know what it’s because he’s
successful but he’s he produces but the
end of the day if he catches a fish
that’s worth $12,000 I’m not gonna lie
to you and say I didn’t want it but I
know if I was thinking they’d be one of
the first guys there and and I firmly
believe that absolutely right would you
say absolutely you have to make third
fish is ever a long memory with these
things though in the in the fleet I had
to put myself in his position it’s
coming towards the end we’re all
fighting to get this top spot and I
gotta be honest it’s it’d be a tough
call to say I wouldn’t have maybe done
the same thing so competition aside I
mean you look there and and clearly it’s
it’s people are listening radio chatter
you can’t do it what about a text
message what about a cell phone cell
phones don’t work can’t contact can’t
call land when you’re 60 miles offshore
and so there’s nothing is like
variations if it’s northwest and it’s
clear out you might reach and I think
that’s what people don’t necessarily
understand Dave is that for you to
communicate with TJ in that situation
the only way for you to do it is to do
it on the radio – so you have no way of
telling him anything without alerting
everybody I mean you didn’t get on the
roof with tinfoil one yeah you don’t
have a secret frequency I can’t talk –
it does go in and out if he does put it
on open channel he does reach me it
could be twenty other boats listening
well yeah I mean it’d be game over if it
was me in your situation I would have
filled the boat and when
and told them then but not on the radio
you guys have talked a lot about how
tough it is once everybody shows up in
the sidewalk officially in that moment
you know I could understand his train of
thought but it still sucked but you were
all cutthroat at times I mean I mean
lying if I said I saw someone go off
next to me one of these guys and I
wasn’t aggravating the moment but you
know it is what it is you have to just
move forward and learn from it
TJ you mentioned having a bull’s-eye in
fact having a whole arsenal on Dave he’s
the guy on top so your gun form on its
tackle the guy with the ball now I mean
he’s winning and everyone wants to take
him out I mean everyone knows this time
of year Dave always gets hot and
sometimes he just he walks away so it’s
it’s our job to try you know get him and
take him out your dad reacted pretty
strongly to though he seemed pretty
upset about upset about it but when I
confronted Dave there on the water it
really I was somewhat over it I just
kind of wanted to call him out and make
a little bit of light of it but at the
end of the day I don’t hate Dave let’s
move past this and get over to the
Kellyanne the bad luck did unfortunately
continue this week Paul your only hook
up was a shark nice one yeah well this
is what a look like
I don’t know tuna
go ahead let off the inka no moron here
we go stay on him
what’s the anchor
No
seriously we can’t help what bites the
line but we really needed this one to be
a tuna we have to get a few more fish
thought it was a real deal yeah that’s
the thing the socks Broadband’s you
think it’s the real deal you’re all
pumped up amped up getting off the
anchor fighting fighting fighting it
comes up and it’s another shot that’s
simple baby it’s getting to the end of
the week and you still haven’t caught a
fish and I’m worried just gotta go catch
a fish
hi Paul it’s been what four tuna now and
twelve weeks of fishing there’s only
three weeks of this season left what’s
the game plan here because your tunas
not gonna get it done no right now is
when everyone makes all their money in a
couple of weeks of this fishery it’s
been like that forever during the season
you just get by we’re way behind you
know I mean we’re way way behind but we
can stay in the game and not lose money
if we stay focused and days on yeah in a
couple days you can BAM
right out if it ends up being as tough a
season as it’s been the entire time for
me I’m gonna give up I can’t I have a
daughter I can’t give up will you make
sure to head down to North Carolina and
does this change the way you handle the
offseason it depends on the season it
depends on where I’m at at home you know
I’m trying to get my own boat and
establish you just need a couple of good
days that’s all it’s all a couple good
tide changes and changes everything
that’s it you got a plan is there a
place you’re gonna go
are you gonna tell everybody where
you’re going or are you gonna keep that
a secret
Oh have you learned anything from this
episode or not you should go to oh you
know I’m gonna keep things undercover
for now I’m not throwing you you know
damn well I’m
not a lot of information being shared I
think after this know this it’s a very
tight competition between these guys and
I’ve been struggling all year but my
focus is to keep them together keep the
guys on the boat together so we can end
and not lose money you will you always
come on strong at the end always because
I don’t stop I steady all the time no
matter how many fish you lose I’m like
alright let’s go get another one well
nobody will ever question that no matter
how bad things look Paul’s always got
that attitude it’s fishing he’s supposed
to enjoy it and make money at the same
time alright well it’s just a lot of
pressures at the same time alright guys
well that’ll do it for this explosive
episode that is wicked tuna real talk
for this week a huge thank you to
captain Dave Carrera fishing vessel
tuna.com captain TJ out of hot tuna and
captain Paul Ebert of the Kellyanne you
can catch all the Real Talk episodes by
going to NatGeo tv.com slash Real Talk
we’ll be back again next week right
after another all-new episode of wicked
tuna
next Sunday 9 p.m. a National Geographic
Channel on next week’s episode the
fallout from TJ’s now strained
relationship with Dave continues and one
boat has a truly amazing week next week
on realtalk Dave will be back again so
will TJ along with captain Dave Marciano
of hard merchandise you can get all your
wicked tuna fix by liking us on Facebook
or following us on Twitter to get daily
updates we’ll see you next time
on wicked tuna real talk
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