so I was lucky enough to travel to Juba
this less September and meet Catherine
and I’m just gonna ask her a couple
questions about our time there and I
first want to ask you about your
assignment which was in the orphanage so
could you tell us a little bit about
your assignment and how that tells
people about South Sudan with the with
the images and the work that you did
there all right actually in the photo
camp we were divided into groups and I
happen to be in the group of CCC that’s
confidential dhryn out of conflict the
assignment we had to do was to humanize
the life of the children who are in the
orphanage and it happened to be a girl’s
orphanage so we went there for
consecutive three days to just have
different aspects of what they do every
day definitely they do the same thing
but that’s what I thought at first I was
like okay what I’m supposed to do this
three days like it doesn’t make sense
the first day I’ll just get everything I
have all the pictures and it’s perfect
yeah and then I I remember asked one of
the trainers I was like okay we’re not
be doing this the three days I’m not be
changing locations so he was like yeah I
said what I’ll be having the same
pictures and it’s kind of boring excite
no try that out and you really like it
in each day each day like I really try
that out and I figured out that the
first day had different kind of pictures
because I was focusing on environmental
issues landscape I was having the whole
thing in the picture just everyone else
is there and I’m happy and then we used
to have reflections on the pictures and
I one of the trainers was like okay this
is very nice but maybe you want to think
of how to play the camera and have
things may be more detailed than just
the landscape and then the second day I
was
kind of having pictures in the rooms in
the domes in the corridors at the
playground in the kitchen as having
pictures in more specific or in a
smaller circle and then the third day I
was having pictures of how the children
are there steps how they catch the ball
how they played each other so it was
getting more and more smaller circle and
I really enjoy that psycho realized how
much I really yes that’s possible to
make sense why do I have to do this I
mean here’s a full think Catherine is
what you’re talking about is you you
went in and you realize that it actually
takes work because you’re you’re
studying your subject you’re studying
somebody but then you look at this
picture yeah and you it’s not just about
an encyclopedic look at who what this
place is right you captured an emotion
so can you talk a little bit about that
because I have a feeling that maybe you
wouldn’t have taken a picture like this
before photo camp and and so how was
that moving in so closely and capturing
somebody in that emotional well actually
uh this is one of my favorite pictures
said the photo camp I loved it and I
never had a picture like this and I just
look at it I look at the quality I look
at the eyes I look at the tier and that
small drop at the end of it and the
shape of the child lives and I was
actually thinking so much about this
picture and it’s just amazing how we all
have the same emotion everybody cries
everybody loves everybody smiles
everybody gets depressed wherever you
are in every any point of the of the
universe we all do that so it’s kind of
like when you take pictures like that
you start to think about how we are all
the same how we are all uniform how the
whole world is just about these simple
things that connects us together
I’m it doesn’t necessarily mean that
this diskette is miserable because it
was at certain point when he was really
mad at a toy that he wanted so bad yeah
he wanted that toy so bad and then the
other kid was kind of I I don’t know
stronger or he was quick I and he just
picked that toy and I was there I was
just there and I don’t know why I didn’t
help out is that because I father I felt
like okay I’m on a mission I think I
need to take this picture so I took the
picture first and then I solved the
problem poor kid yeah so you caught a
universal language yes it’s a universal
language I love it and what’s going on
here no onions well yeah when you hear
orphanage makes you feel like these are
the most unfortunate but I love this
picture because it reflects nice side of
what they’re doing I mean they’re living
there is life there they have daily
things that they do and in this actually
they were having fashion show yeah and I
love the idea because sometimes you just
feel like okay I have to I have too much
water what may be food and ordered in
school but then they had that sense of
fun fashion colors are cut walking and
all this nothing could on some heels yes
bring some healthy have a girl remover
I’ll place good catherine is a law
student and so her friends were like why
what why are you gonna spend your time
doing photography so why did you well
actually um I think low and journalism
their kinds there they’re linked me
personally loss to them and then I I
understand the law enforcement I
understand the bill of right the Bill of
freedom to talk freedom of all these
things and then in journalism when I
take pictures of things that I don’t
like in the society that I would be able
to present those fixtures and and view
it
and probably the low people may i’m also
in that they would see these pictures
and it’s moved something in them like
this responsibility or illegal
responsibility to add it towards this so
I feel like initially I’m contributing
into solving some of the problems in the
society through through my camera
through the pictures that i can i can
put so it’s an activist side of you yeah
nice i like that so we have an activist
so I’m gonna ask you one more question
yes and I’m gonna read something that
you wrote because sometimes at the camps
we do writing exercises and so there was
something that really caught me and I
wanted you to I wanted to highlight it
and I wanted you to elaborate on it you
wrote the world view South Sudan as only
a war zone which is absolutely wrong and
so I want you to speak to that and tell
tell us why is that wrong and what you
want this group of people to know about
your country all right before answer
that question I just want to just say
something small this morning as we were
having our tea and breakfast the
waitress text when she came and she
serves this and as you say I worry
because guys from we said South Sudan
she was like oh how is the war over
there I mean I’m a South Sudanese and
I’m here I’m in the middle of you at
like okay this is what they me that I’m
in Washington I’m happy I’m holding my
camera I have pictures i have future I’m
a law student I go to university I’m
living in Juba I’m not living outside
Jubal so seriously I’m with this
pictures it’s quite amazing and I feel
the society such a great opportunity for
me that I attended the photo camp
because through the cameras we can view
South Sudan as not only a country that
has weapons and this ak-47 and all the
stuff but we also have we have streets
we have children who cried half was
we have we have future we have life we
had a true photo camp and now we have
found a new collective called South
South Sudanese photographers collective
we just trying to continue with what
photograph has done there so we are
still humanizing the life in South Sudan
their markets there there are parties we
have weddings everything saturday in the
charges and everywhere there’s life
you
this less September and meet Catherine
and I’m just gonna ask her a couple
questions about our time there and I
first want to ask you about your
assignment which was in the orphanage so
could you tell us a little bit about
your assignment and how that tells
people about South Sudan with the with
the images and the work that you did
there all right actually in the photo
camp we were divided into groups and I
happen to be in the group of CCC that’s
confidential dhryn out of conflict the
assignment we had to do was to humanize
the life of the children who are in the
orphanage and it happened to be a girl’s
orphanage so we went there for
consecutive three days to just have
different aspects of what they do every
day definitely they do the same thing
but that’s what I thought at first I was
like okay what I’m supposed to do this
three days like it doesn’t make sense
the first day I’ll just get everything I
have all the pictures and it’s perfect
yeah and then I I remember asked one of
the trainers I was like okay we’re not
be doing this the three days I’m not be
changing locations so he was like yeah I
said what I’ll be having the same
pictures and it’s kind of boring excite
no try that out and you really like it
in each day each day like I really try
that out and I figured out that the
first day had different kind of pictures
because I was focusing on environmental
issues landscape I was having the whole
thing in the picture just everyone else
is there and I’m happy and then we used
to have reflections on the pictures and
I one of the trainers was like okay this
is very nice but maybe you want to think
of how to play the camera and have
things may be more detailed than just
the landscape and then the second day I
was
kind of having pictures in the rooms in
the domes in the corridors at the
playground in the kitchen as having
pictures in more specific or in a
smaller circle and then the third day I
was having pictures of how the children
are there steps how they catch the ball
how they played each other so it was
getting more and more smaller circle and
I really enjoy that psycho realized how
much I really yes that’s possible to
make sense why do I have to do this I
mean here’s a full think Catherine is
what you’re talking about is you you
went in and you realize that it actually
takes work because you’re you’re
studying your subject you’re studying
somebody but then you look at this
picture yeah and you it’s not just about
an encyclopedic look at who what this
place is right you captured an emotion
so can you talk a little bit about that
because I have a feeling that maybe you
wouldn’t have taken a picture like this
before photo camp and and so how was
that moving in so closely and capturing
somebody in that emotional well actually
uh this is one of my favorite pictures
said the photo camp I loved it and I
never had a picture like this and I just
look at it I look at the quality I look
at the eyes I look at the tier and that
small drop at the end of it and the
shape of the child lives and I was
actually thinking so much about this
picture and it’s just amazing how we all
have the same emotion everybody cries
everybody loves everybody smiles
everybody gets depressed wherever you
are in every any point of the of the
universe we all do that so it’s kind of
like when you take pictures like that
you start to think about how we are all
the same how we are all uniform how the
whole world is just about these simple
things that connects us together
I’m it doesn’t necessarily mean that
this diskette is miserable because it
was at certain point when he was really
mad at a toy that he wanted so bad yeah
he wanted that toy so bad and then the
other kid was kind of I I don’t know
stronger or he was quick I and he just
picked that toy and I was there I was
just there and I don’t know why I didn’t
help out is that because I father I felt
like okay I’m on a mission I think I
need to take this picture so I took the
picture first and then I solved the
problem poor kid yeah so you caught a
universal language yes it’s a universal
language I love it and what’s going on
here no onions well yeah when you hear
orphanage makes you feel like these are
the most unfortunate but I love this
picture because it reflects nice side of
what they’re doing I mean they’re living
there is life there they have daily
things that they do and in this actually
they were having fashion show yeah and I
love the idea because sometimes you just
feel like okay I have to I have too much
water what may be food and ordered in
school but then they had that sense of
fun fashion colors are cut walking and
all this nothing could on some heels yes
bring some healthy have a girl remover
I’ll place good catherine is a law
student and so her friends were like why
what why are you gonna spend your time
doing photography so why did you well
actually um I think low and journalism
their kinds there they’re linked me
personally loss to them and then I I
understand the law enforcement I
understand the bill of right the Bill of
freedom to talk freedom of all these
things and then in journalism when I
take pictures of things that I don’t
like in the society that I would be able
to present those fixtures and and view
it
and probably the low people may i’m also
in that they would see these pictures
and it’s moved something in them like
this responsibility or illegal
responsibility to add it towards this so
I feel like initially I’m contributing
into solving some of the problems in the
society through through my camera
through the pictures that i can i can
put so it’s an activist side of you yeah
nice i like that so we have an activist
so I’m gonna ask you one more question
yes and I’m gonna read something that
you wrote because sometimes at the camps
we do writing exercises and so there was
something that really caught me and I
wanted you to I wanted to highlight it
and I wanted you to elaborate on it you
wrote the world view South Sudan as only
a war zone which is absolutely wrong and
so I want you to speak to that and tell
tell us why is that wrong and what you
want this group of people to know about
your country all right before answer
that question I just want to just say
something small this morning as we were
having our tea and breakfast the
waitress text when she came and she
serves this and as you say I worry
because guys from we said South Sudan
she was like oh how is the war over
there I mean I’m a South Sudanese and
I’m here I’m in the middle of you at
like okay this is what they me that I’m
in Washington I’m happy I’m holding my
camera I have pictures i have future I’m
a law student I go to university I’m
living in Juba I’m not living outside
Jubal so seriously I’m with this
pictures it’s quite amazing and I feel
the society such a great opportunity for
me that I attended the photo camp
because through the cameras we can view
South Sudan as not only a country that
has weapons and this ak-47 and all the
stuff but we also have we have streets
we have children who cried half was
we have we have future we have life we
had a true photo camp and now we have
found a new collective called South
South Sudanese photographers collective
we just trying to continue with what
photograph has done there so we are
still humanizing the life in South Sudan
their markets there there are parties we
have weddings everything saturday in the
charges and everywhere there’s life
you
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