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Mattias Klum: Lions, Leeches and Cobra Tongues | Nat Geo Live


I go to these places that are islands of
wealth and beauty in hell hanging there
in the middle of the darkness 150 feet
up in the tree all of a sudden you are
prey nearly the best job in the world
when National Geographic calls you and
ask you to do something they might say
life they did when I was 23 years old
there was Kent Cobra ste in a wonderful
director of photography and Tom Kennedy
they said materials we want you to go to
the Amazon and come back with pictures
that we have never seen before and as a
23 year old obviously you think that you
might be something so you say you bet
these days I just humbly say I’ll do my
utmost and I go to these places there
are what should I say isolator or what
could say also like a islands of wealth
and beauty undisturbed islands at its
best in hell well with seven bill you
know we just turned 7 billion people on
the planet so places like these are not
too common this is false iguazu why
would you send a person or persons out
to take pictures of poison dart frogs in
a time when two children per minute died
from malaria for example when we have
huge problems
why Wall Street I mean why should we
send anybody out well to me I asked
myself this question repeatedly and for
me a poison dart frog or this little
frog that I photographed on one of the
grenade Granite Hills outside of Rio de
Janeiro that actually became strangely
enough it’s not really a wonderful
picture I think it’s like a but it
became a what Darwin didn’t know but but
anyway what’s wonderful with all these
creatures who might
you know might be a woolly monkey or oxy
Billy’s snake having a feast on a gecko
they will all perhaps if treated
correctly if shown in the right
situation become ambassadors ambassadors
for sustainability ambassadors for
change ambassadors for biodiversity and
when you show this to kids for example
they might say wow that’s cool or you
said well I know but it might stick to a
few of you and that is sometimes a
ticket to a further understanding
sometimes I think National Geographic
magazine gives me assignments nobody
else wants so for this assignment for
example in Panama they said do you know
what a kinkajou is I said I do it’s a
raccoon related badger sized animal with
a prehensile tail that finds its home in
the Neotropics in the rainforest canopy
prep Belize
Panama great you’re the right man for
the job you know what and I said great
well you have 16 weeks and uh and I know
it’s nocturnal and it is arboreal so
that’s why I’m alone nobody else wants
it of course we call the idiot in
Uppsala Sweden and I answer the phone
and I am thewe see a Stickley agree and
I call my assistants and he assistant
lush Magnus and he’s a really smart guy
down-to-earth and he’s like have you
thought about what it means our boreal
on top of that nocturnal yeah yeah yeah
yeah yeah you’re so negative you knows
of it but then eventually when you
actually get the first photographs this
is a female and she’s holding on to a
balsa flower and that she pollinates but
what happened here was that one night my
assistant lush Magnus was hanging there
in the middle of the darkness you know
with with flash units and diffusers and
and cables and night-vision goggles
40 meters to
150 feet up in a tree and I could sense
that he was severely depressed well you
know good friends you view you can
actually sense things like that isn’t it
no but I mean truly so I lean towards
him that in the tree you know for my my
climbing rope and like how are you my
friend you know that
I can sense what’s wrong I’m homesick
I’m homesick too I said well I’m I’m
really homesick and then he I thought he
went completely nuts because then he
said do you mind if we name the female
kinkajou – Ana Maria that’s his
girlfriend’s name not so good is it no
so I said actually to him it’s okay
let’s go around the Maria and he said oh
thank you
then I understood it was very serious
but one a few nights after he was
sitting like this this is what I wanted
to tell you he was sitting like this in
Anna Maria came walking on the branches
you know monkeys all sorts of primates
and these nocturnal raccoon related
animals they have like a like pathways
invisible to us perhaps but but very
clear to them where to go where to find
fruit way to pollinate flowers etc etc
so anyway she came there and she was
right
few inches away from Raja Magnus’s face
when she sat down impede
and you know when you have worked for
weeks and weeks and you have this the
whole funding thing you know with the
there’s lots of money involved and
you’ve cases and hotels and porters and
climbing and you know you cannot just
you finally finally found the animal
what can you catch it don’t pee on me
and scare you just know you must let it
happen basically poor guy anyway so he
got marinated and he didn’t want to call
her on the money after that so now we’re
going to take you to a completely
different place and that’s the only
reason for that is that when I opened
the brochure I saw there was a loss a
lion when it next to my name is like god
I have to show lions so I’ll show you
some lions but there are no African
lions there are AC attic lions the
European lion the lion of the Bible if
you know your Bible there about 30
stories about AC attic lines the
European line the line that roamed from
Greece and Italy all the way through
India in the east and this is the lines
of doorknobs of royal standard flags of
weapons of these are the heraldic lines
and you can actually see that it’s not
the African line necessarily that has
stood model because this is the female
Asiatic line and they have thicker fur
they have elbow tufts and they’re forest
dwellers this is my Mona Lisa I love her
very much
but this is also a cat a big cat so you
have to be a little bit careful because
you cannot really go into their domain
in Egypt this area as I said is forested
this is the gear in Gujarat in in the
Kathiawar peninsula in western India so
you need to actually walk in and I got a
special permission to do so this is me
walking up to this young guy and it’s
really you have to be very
very careful because they can all of a
sudden try to see if you are tasty or
not one of the presents from nature one
of the gifts during an assignment any
assignment is obviously a photograph
that can do justice to a certain
situation when it came to this female
she came out from the understory she was
generously calling her cubs she had to
this is obviously only one but she
called them both and they put themselves
in nice position and she was obviously
it was in a sense vulnerable to my
presence she knew that I was there I was
in the open and she let me take pictures
of her at a very very close range and I
got this photograph that was one
photograph that we didn’t have and this
is again not Africa this is India this
is a forest line so to me this was like
three months in waiting and we finally
finally got the photograph and there was
also one of the covers Iceland is the
next destination I’ve done a lot of work
there I’m sort of this is a little bit
work-in-progress I take you on a little
behind-the-scenes trip here this
particular assignment had to do with
glaciers and the fat one the fastest
melting glaciers in the world the vast
majority of the largest glacier in
Europe and it’s to me one of the most
beautiful sceneries that you can imagine
it’s a bit like meditation when you go
around there and you look for
monochromatic patterns and you look for
for things that can just be so so
beautiful but at the same times it’s
it’s a sad feeling because again this
this glacier and all our glaciers in the
world most of them retract very very
quickly and this has can can have and
will have very special consequences for
for our species not least but it’s a
gorgeous gorgeous place and to begin
with I trekked through the central parts
of Iceland but Majorca for exam but then
I realized I would also need some
aerials so I contract
a helicopter company and I asked who’s
the best pilot you have because it’s
very important you take off the door you
want the helicopter to be stable and you
put half of your butt outside and you
use this helicopter as a moving tripod
basically because you sit there with a
headset on and you say could you please
take the helicopter further east and
tilter ever-so-slightly blah blah blah
and the pilot hopefully who says he has
Roger that blah blah blah but you know
but I ended up with a very skillful
pilot but that proved to be a lunatic
this guy was very good in fact very very
very very good but he had a crush I
think he was it wasn’t a sexual thing he
would just had a crush on Clint Eastwood
and everyone Here I am anyway is taking
my head out in the helicopter but anyway
because every single thing I asked this
man he had to try to find some kind of a
quote from a Clint Eastwood movie which
makes it unbearable I mean it’s like
it’s expensive to fly and it’s like a
delay because he’s got to think of a
movie I mean it’s like since it’s mental
anyway but it’s it’s a fantastic he did
his job but it was a constant lag
there’s also lots of iron oxide lots of
beautiful minerals that the country or
the landscape sort of sweat out and it’s
it’s just one of the places if you
haven’t been that you should go I think
and here this is one example where ask
the pilot could you please take me from
this perspective I like the diagonal
sensation I like the the the power of
depths in this frame but the same time I
was very much attracted to this sulphite
area here so I wanted to see whether I
could because I had some clouds this way
there was quite funky so I said to the
pilot could you please go down to this
place in it you have to ask yourself
do you feel lucky and I got a little bit
lucky because it was a it was actually
better from there it’s very cool
landscape and the things you can see you
know that it’s like looking into a brain
or two just the tiniest things on the
planet but this is from a helicopter
with silt or glacial water black lava
and I just find it so pretty it’s sort
of ingenious I think it’s just crazy you
see the blue sky reflected you have the
silty glacial water you have the black
lava some sulfite and mmm yummy it’s a
super place for a crazy photographer and
crazy pilots too I bet so nice well this
is Borneo I’ve spent a lot of time there
and I’ve spent time in many many
rainforests and I love them all but
there is something about Borneo that is
some somewhat special one thing that’s
special about Bourn is that it’s so
endangered it’s going away so quickly
I’ve done a lot of work there over the
years this is me on our way to one of
our three platforms at 200 feet where we
spend days weeks sometimes to get
certain photographs or film sequences
and again why what Borneo under well
during the 80s and 90s more hardwood was
exported from Borneo than from South
America Central America and Africa
combined which is staggering isn’t it
and this is the third largest island in
the world in Southeast Asia and it has
just been completely massacred and I’ll
come back to why but this is a
long-tailed macaque and again it’s one
of the storytellers from this world from
that world that is
greetings now this little guy I’ll have
to show you this guy to the this guy
here he is going to the hairdresser and
others are sort of overlooking this this
incredible experience this is the
juvenile long-tailed macaque and to
begin with it’s like being on a sort of
spa treatment where you have two people
massaging you because it’s nice you know
you have they pick up things and they do
all sorts of things and it it looks very
comfy Pleasant you know you can go to
spa is that you want two people
massaging or one this is the kind thing
but after a while they get little bit
rough I just want to show you it takes
some efforts if you want to look really
nice and I was again very privileged I
could work my way habituate the group
get very close and work within the
community of long-tailed macaques the
sound you heard there there is a sort of
contact are you okay yes I’m okay
it looks miserable it’s quite wonderful
orangutan orangutan czar at this point
very very vulnerable we have found new
groups of orangutans but still we give
them 10 to 15 years in the wild and
they’re gone forever with the current
rate of destruction they’re amazing
animals high EQ IQ and EQ amazing
animals I’ll tell you a little bit more
but first I want to show you a sequence
from one of my tree blinds with a female
orangutan having a feast on durian it’s
a quite unique sequence I’m really proud
that I can show you it I spent four
months in the blinds before I got this
shot she’s having a feast on wild durian
fruits and the baby is not enable to
join her I don’t know if why but but
actually she left the baby who further
down the baby now is actually starting
to build a little platform bored very
bored and very irritating Lee peels are
coming down that’s soup and they smell
so good but nothing in them and he’s
almost falling down as well it’s like
whoops look at this it’s just a
miserable situation look at that and the
mothers just munching away and this is
the king of fruits it smells quite it’s
quite pungent and and but very very
tasty but then finally when she’s had
her share she climbs down all the way
down to pick up the little baby
you can really sense that the baby is
very happy and it’s always useful to
have a hairy back that’s for sure and
this is good mothers have eyes in their
neck or in their ears I think look at
this Divini it’s trying to get a chew a
bite but no now this the typical good
mother isn’t it yeah you have to fight
for it you know you have to earn it
that’s it’s true yeah now we’re going to
show you a short sequence with one of my
favorite birds in Borneo it’s the
resplendent Argus pheasant
this is one of my as I said one of my
favorite places I have a tough time
picking one and that’s why it’s so
painful when things are changing in a
way that’s not sustainable intelligent
or works for us in the future this place
now looks like this and this looks like
something out of Lord of the Rings but
this is not Peter Jackson’s fantasy this
is now because we want to buy potato
chips we want to buy cookies we want to
buy softeners for plastic we want to buy
fuels that people label eco fuels if
we’re not careful
palm oil hardwood its sought-after and
we ask consumers in an increasingly
globalised world make daily choices that
actually affect change and the good
thing about this is that we are not
sheep we don’t need to follow just
everything we can ourselves make choices
this is Tara Singh for palm oil so it’s
painful to see all this and I’m not a
classic tree hugger I love to hug trees
but I understand we are 7 billion people
we need to use resources but we need to
use them wisely mmm that beautiful face
is the face of my friend Tiburon he’s a
blowpipe hunter from Borneo he’s one of
the last remaining forest dwellers
nomadic pen on in Borneo and he has no
future according to himself his life is
gone when the forests are gone and he
asks questions he asks what why are we
doing this why are you doing this what’s
going on why are why is my forest so so
important to eradicate or take away we
have to ask ourself
the same questions what forests are are
we to keep and or to use you have to be
very smart I think I have nearly the
best job in the world at least for me it
is I think some of you might say it’s
not for me I don’t like to have like
fungi growing everywhere malaria you
know things like that
no I mean it’s it’s but but it is I’d to
me it’s a fantastic job but there’s also
I sometimes I feel that we are the worst
animal on the planet if I may say so
we’re the worst species we’re the worst
with the worst we’ve wage war we poison
our planet we kill each other we lie we
rape we do all sorts really really
really nasty things that’s our privilege
in a sense because we’re so intelligent
right but what’s really interesting also
I’m fantastic these days and it’s
changing now it’s changing quickly it’s
that this is an issue that’s on the
table this is something that people are
aware of we just have to bridge the gap
between heart and brain people know it
intellectually but they don’t feel it in
their hearts sometimes so we just have
to bridge that gap and make people work
for their own future there’s we’re the
only species that we can gather in a
room like this and make intelligent
choices for a prosperous and sustainable
future and that to me it’s a great
journey ahead again this is what I want
to show my kids when they grow up when
they are in my age and they go with
their girlfriends or friends to Borneo I
want it still to look like this I doubt
that it will but I will fight for it
thank you for listening
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