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well it’s great great to be here I’m
just grateful obviously awesome to see
you here in my country Elif I just
earned my country yeah in the u.s.
instead of in London because last time
we were doing your face face we’re in
London right yeah yeah it’s just full
circle what brought you to the United
States well there’s so many deep divers
out here and California is just about a
lot of health wellness and for me it’s
just fun just to meet people you’ve been
to London you know what it’s like yes so
so what I wanted to talk about today I
think with you was this some what I’m
noticing a lot of lately is that the
world right now feels really unstable as
people when the world goes into a state
of instability people start to feel
really afraid so it creates a kind of
emotional inflammation the way that I
like to describe it is it’s almost like
people are kind of like pufferfish if
you’re walking around in the state of
defense against each other and not
against not just against people against
ideas as well and so what I’m watching
in the spiritual community specifically
is this a real I guess lack of self
trust in people and the state of
reactivity against what they perceived
to be as a threat and a lot of that is
directed at each other at alternative
ideas a lot of this director that you
know people like yourself and I as
teachers where it’s it’s sort of like I
don’t know whether to trust this person
or this thing and so if I read any
information it’s contradictory to the
person or to the ideas now suddenly I am
thrown into a state of crisis because
like who do I believe is as this person
totally a fraud are they horrible is
what they’re saying totally not true
based off of all this information and so
people are going into this kind of
defensive crisis so I was wondering
first off whether you’ve been noticing
the same thing
definitely I’ve been noticing it all
along whenever you put yourself out
there you put yourself out there you’re
literally the sacrificial lamb
that’s why anyone that’s doing this work
you gotta be so brave like I remember
back in 2013 I was just like gosh teal
can do this every week because it’s not
easy there’s a reason why a lot of
people don’t want to share anything
because of the backlash a lot of people
they delve into your personal life and I
think that’s why a lot of us who are
doing this what you want to remind
people that I’m not a saint expect a
scandal every week because the more you
kind of show yourself to be perfected
then that’s when people start to dig up
debt that’s like someone like Russell
Brand who’s kind of crazy anyway he’s
amazing but it’s like you kind of expect
that so that’s what I always do I always
try and fuse a lot of humor in it don’t
expect perfection from me at all I say
the same thing but it doesn’t seem to
change the way that people react it’s
almost like there’s such an expectation
of spiritual teachers that they’d be the
absolute image of perfection that if
anything is presented that is contrary
to that perfectionistic ideal now
suddenly they have to throw the baby out
with the bathwater it’s kind of like
well if there’s one defect that this
person shows and what else is defective
about what they’ve said great so I would
really love as if if people actually
learned discernment for themselves I
feel like that’s where we’re headed in
the spiritual field and I feel like the
spiritual revolution that’s happening
right now is that gurus are essentially
coming off of their pedestal because
what we recognize those teachers is for
thousands of years we’ve been doing that
we’ve been doing the pedestal thing so
follow us listen to what we say and if
you just practice this crap you’re gonna
finally figure out how to live life
right but no it’s kind of like we’re
coming up the post holes because we’re
seeing how much damage that has done yes
so what kind of damage have you
perceived that the pedestal affect us
well I see a lot of times people they
feel threatened if they can’t if they’re
not living that lifestyle that’s why a
lot of the times when I make videos I
always do short videos sometimes I do
videos on the beach sometimes with other
people so I’m not kind of just doing one
style of videos I think that’s where a
lot of people fall into problems if
you’re just doing the video every week
or twice a week and it’s in a set way
because your amazing website you know
you have from reading your amazing
articles I’m like gosh I want to see
teal doing that on YouTube and and a lot
of the times I probably will help people
a lot more to have in a discernment and
that’s what helps me because a lot of
people know okay Ralph is gonna say
anything that’s what you’ve got to
expect I could talk about grape so I
could talk about making money or I can
talk about anything because I’m showing
people different sizes myself every
single day what do you think the hardest
challenge you face right now because
you’ve been doing it for so long do you
think that you’ve reached a point where
your trainer find a new path in what
you’re doing because you’re an artist
and artists always are on the next level
just like just change the whole game
completely I can feel that that might be
something that comes up but the hardest
thing for me right now with my career is
the fact that like I’ve gotten to a
pinnacle point in my career especially
because of how revolutionary I tend to
be my ideals and my decision of course
to put my entire private life out in the
public eye where the level of
controversy that I’ve got going is so
high that we’re dealing with serious
security risks at every event that I go
to we’re dealing with death threats
we’re dealing with like public slander
just the crazy amounts of it to the
degree that a lot of people in this
business I was real scared to touch me
they’re like well I don’t know if I’m
gonna go and do this heal thing because
by virtue of association we’re either
going to be exalted or condemned so it’s
that polarization that really I struggle
with and of course trying to find
point of Attraction within me for the
amount of hatred that I’m facing right
now in the world because it’s it’s
really hard like I said earlier it’s
really really hard is to basically to be
so excited about this thing you’re going
to create and to feel like you’re giving
such a great thing to the world and to
have it just slaughtered to have it just
sort of slaughtered I almost feel like
there’s an SOP I mean it feels like a
little kid who’s drawn a picture and I’m
just super excited to show people that
picture so I run up on stage and go like
this and then people throw to me as and
shoot holes through it and I’m like oh
my god like what just happened right so
it’s very hard to feel the same level of
confidence when that continues to happen
and you can feel yourself because I’m
when people like us get in the flow that
can’t be interrupted by the what-ifs
yeah that’s where you lead at least a
sermon Appalachian I’m gonna basically
structure this so that that’s accepted
the perfect way that I want to and
structure it so that I get the reaction
I want is a lot more of an inhibited
process than the free flow of just plain
channeling so the real struggle for me
is how do I keep it pure channeling and
not get tied up in this panic about oh
the minute I say that they’re gonna take
it this way so I have to cover all my
bases and then it becomes more of a
impure form right right it’s been
challenging for me as well but I lent a
secret that you don’t want to get stuck
on the masterpiece
and I realized when I was putting out
videos like sometimes once a week or
whatever it would make people would just
hang on the last video I’ve done so I
realized when I was releasing a lot of
videos whatever’s on my mind it’s like
oh my gosh people are seeing so many
different sites you know so if you say
something like in one day tomorrow you
can say it and then go over in people’s
minds but if you kind of leave people
hanging for a whole week oh my gosh till
seeing this and it’s like they take it
completely
context oh I’m easy to take out of
context yep right right yes sure but as
well I think it’s the whole getting more
personal with people that’s what I
always love to do sometimes and that’s
why I think when you break it up it
allows people to almost say okay I can’t
just judge Jill for doing this because
I’m seeing different sides of her I
think a lot of the traps we fall in this
we just want to show the world one side
of us sometimes and then that’s that was
my problem for a long time until I
realized who kiss you see I think it’s
the gurus and a lot of teachers what
they have to do is also learn from other
people who in the complete opposite
spectrum on YouTube for example you’ve
got people like jenna Marbles who’s with
their dogs talking and that’s genius and
what you’re doing is genius but what
about fusing both worlds together
entertainment and and you know just
helping people so because a lot of times
whenever you’re trying to help people
that’s when people start judging you
it’s the whole story when you don’t want
to help anybody they love you for it
when you tell people you know just ruin
your life then they’ll support you but
the moment you’re trying to help people
then people say who are you have you
ascended somewhere and then they try and
find out stuff about you so I always say
it helps when you can play yourself down
that’s what I’ve tried to do with my
blog since having the opposite effect
Rae like literally I put this myself out
there with the vulnerability and like
look this is this is the story behind
closed doors which is no longer behind
closed doors paper a she’s exposing it
and it’s almost like that’s causing its
own eye this is not what I want is to
follow us somebody who’s got issues with
X Y & Z right and well I am like
watching some serious reactivity so what
I wanted to talk to you about basically
was like what will your advice be to the
people who are on the other end wanting
to learn from spiritual teachers like I
mean because what I feel like is it’s
really super critical for people to
develop discernment what I usually talk
about the fact that I feel like today
our modern spiritual practice
needs to be about creating a religion
built for one so that you are
essentially you become your own guru you
become your own access to spiritual
information and you you’re sort of
looking at the world as a source or
whatever you want to call it this united
consciousness is able to speak through
anything and everything and so you’re
just sort of watching out in the world
for that message or that tool or that
thing that benefits your life so it’s
almost like if you can think of a
spiritual practitioner as somebody who
has a toolbox and you want to fill that
toolbox with all the tools that work for
you specifically and what works for one
person is going to be different than
what works for another person so
essentially all somebody like you or I
are as a spiritual teacher terms of
function in the world if somebody who
sells a lot of tools yeah and so it like
what if we could approach everything in
anyone as if you’re looking for that one
tool that works as opposed to you know
condemning the person who’s selling the
tools or making it about the person who
sells the tools great I think it’s a lot
safer too because quite frankly I mean
look how many scandals have happened
over the last thousand years with people
who are in positions of spiritual
authority yes it would be better I feel
like if people could kind of learn how
to separate out the baby with the
bathwater and be like you know what if
this aspect of their personal life helps
me well it’s pretend it’s my blog in
this case right ring or you know those
videos where you’re showing people what
you do just on a normal date like look
I’m on the beach today if that helps
that person that’s a tool that assists
them if that doesn’t help another person
they can set that aside and look for
another aspect of the tools and neither
of our repertoire and use that right so
I mean it’s an interesting way of
looking at the world because we have the
tendency to do black or white right if
people want to condemn yeah
or else exalt like there’s nothing in
between so it doesn’t allow for the
nuances that are a natural part of
humanity and whether we like to admit it
or not most people in spirit when you
don’t want to admit they’re human it’s
like no we’re just trans we’re
pretending to be human for not really
human I would almost rather I say no
we’re both human and divine yeah
definitely I say what helps me is saying
this is what’s helping me along my
journey you know a lot of the times I
mean infinite waters is growing so much
and a lot of people always bring that up
oh it’s like you’re not telling me what
to do
I’m just explaining this is what’s
helped me so I think when you make it
more of a narrative it’s a lot people
can kind of use more inner discernment
they’re like oh okay I I can I’m not
gonna just judge on straight away but as
soon as you say okay this is what to do
boom boom boom boom without putting your
own personal touch of his story in it
and then people might take it the wrong
way it’s almost like professor who’s
saying do this do this and they do it
they may not work for them so they blame
the professor mm-hm but you’ve got to
put a massive disclaimer this may not
work for you um I’m not here to kind of
change your life I’m just sharing what’s
helped me along my journey because a lot
of the times people they’re very
desperate to for help and sometimes
that’s where the pressure comes in if it
doesn’t go right and they look to the
person who was given the advice in the
first place so you want to just say
massive disclaimer this probably won’t
help but me but I think as well it’s
also we’ve got to kind of remind people
that this isn’t the only guide for you
this is only a perspective yes and and
that’s why I always say that all the way
all the time because otherwise people
they think oh she’s figuring it all out
and meanwhile behind the scenes there’s
a lot of craziness going on so I think
that’s where people they might start to
judge people when they say okay you’re
talking about this but why are you
talking about what’s actually happening
in your life and I think that’s where a
lot of teachers have to bring more out
what’s happening in their life I agree
you know to the public I don’t really
agree right right 100% yeah yeah that
that’s the biggest thing you’ve got to
talk about it because like you were
saying should we talk about people who
sometimes make videos I’ve had videos
made about me and and sometimes you
don’t always have to just go at them
specifically but you can always raise it
up you know in a way where you can talk
about people who want supporting you and
then you know bring it out there because
at the end of the day it’s a kick it’s a
way of letting go of fear you know and
realizing it’s not as
serious people have been talking since
the dawn of mankind about other people
yeah yeah they’re you you honestly need
to tell me they like even you come out
there with your public and personal life
people are like fine with it or do you
still in capture the resistance I always
encounter resistance a lot of times
people because a lot of people when I’m
sharing video some people say gosh for
instance a lot of people say gosh were
alphas so friendly with the ladies he’s
always saying infinite love imbalance
and you know so a lot of the times but
that’s always who I’ve been
you see I mean saw might say okay
or often even had a lot of resistance
you see even though a lot of people say
gosh ralphus always posting pictures on
facebook and stuff like that and I’ve
had those so you’re pretty hard right
right but you know there’s always gonna
be something I’ve had a lot of people
who say Ralphy I don’t like your intro
please stop saying can I get a Hello
there because it’s distracting me lots
of people writing in that but then lots
of people saying oh I love it
so really it’s got to do with you you
know I always say how people treat you
will see you has nothing to do with you
it’s got everything to do with them but
at the same time it does definitely like
you say we can’t just stop worrying
about what people think it does affect
us so we have to really realize okay why
you know a lot of the times it’s because
it’s also a catalyst for our own groups
when someone say something and it stings
you’re like why did that stink so much
they hid somewhere yeah and and a lot of
the times I always say you’ve got a lot
of people around who are gonna say some
things and it’s gonna tricky when
certain people say things and it doesn’t
so it’s up to us as well to kind of find
why did that trigger me well that was
exactly the point I was gonna bring up
about discernment I feel like yeah
actually our triggers present the
greatest opportunity potentially for
working with discernment because it’s
like the second that that hits we have
that opportunity it’s like a wide-open
door to be to try to figure out like
what part this is me and what part this
is
other person like why is this of course
about inner questioning yeah why is this
bothering me so bad what is it about me
that this particular thing threatens
like what is it that I’m afraid of all
of those big questions it’s the only way
we can really discern what is intuition
versus what is our mind which done
fear-based
ego of course coming in and taking over
the show is to really confront the
aspects that could potentially be ego
what is what about me and my identity
essentially is this particular thing
threatening then we can actually it’s
almost like you’re peeling the veneer
off so that you can actually see the
essence of what’s underneath it becomes
very clear what to do or what not to do
when you do something like that but I
feel like people are not taught to self
question right we’re we are basically
raised thinking that what’s normal is
reactivity so you have that trigger and
then cently do something as a result of
it either reject the person yellow the
person it’s like it’s some sort of an
external action that has taken as a
result of that trigger right and what
would you say you’ve been putting out
yes yourself out there for so many years
has every year become easier because
you’ve got more confidence or is it
becoming more challenging as bigger
you’re growing and stuff I noticed that
it goes in waves okay so like to begin
the first initial putting myself out
there was terrifying right oh my gosh
you know I’m really doing this and then
that was received well and it went
awesome then I encountered my first wave
of like not everybody loves teal and
when I of course ran up against that
that pushed on all of my deep wounds of
being rejected and ostracized as a kid
and like all that kind of stuff and so I
had to deal with that which was not easy
and then I kind of broke through that
and I say busy getting famous is pretty
much the best way to desensitize
yourself to being hated because it’s
gonna happen yeah and like you sort of
struggle with it and then you either die
because of it or you just sort of become
used to it so I’m becoming used to it
but as I get bigger it seems like the
waves get bigger also and so like
recently I’ve been hit with a really big
one like super big one where some of the
hatred is coming from
people who were very very close to me
and so it’s that level of betrayal
essentially which has been coming up
big-time that’s been more difficult for
me than any of the rest of it right
right so it’s the wave effect and I’m
hoping that one day the way is you know
I kind of rise above the way so they
just don’t really impact me on an
emotional level impact my career on the
emotional we shall see well well that’s
another thing because the YouTube is one
of the biggest websites in the world and
I always look at other people’s YouTube
channels some of the really popular ones
and they’re always collaborating with
each other so that unity really helps
people to use in their descendants a oh
wait till with Ralph and but they are
the person who was doing YouTube as well
you’re working together people are
seeing the unity and now it’s like oh my
gosh it’s a it’s it’s all coming
together but I think a lot of us we’re
always doing separate things too much so
a lot of people are like oh my gosh they
don’t see enough unity so then it’s yeah
it’s hard for artists to collaborate
it’s hard it’s hard time it in his HUD
but we did it two years ago three years
ago we’ve been doing it and it’s so
important because people love when we
connect we’re doing the same thing in
different ways but it’s so important for
people to see unity I always say a great
thing is that we’ve never gone at each
other I think that’s the biggest what
like you’ve given me occasion right
right right right you know well a lot of
the times it can happen because
sometimes the ego can creep in and even
though people are doing the same things
there’s a lot of slander and I think
what we’ve done is amazing because we
I’m always watching your videos I’m
sharing your videos and it’s likewise
it’s the same way I think people just
have to show that even more because that
way then people start to see oh my god
it’s like a cross audience and people
start to oh my gosh and then they they
begin to have a wider perspective so
what tell me about you you’re like you
using discern in your live well a lot of
the times I’ve always been a free being
like I had a racism exist
to me gender doesn’t exist to me all of
these things are illusions that’s why I
connect with so many people because I
always make sure I remind them that so
because of that people I attracted me a
very open people and that’s why it’s
infinite waters because it’s infinite
it’s all in the name we don’t have any
separation so a lot of the times as well
that’s why I don’t even dislike
anybody’s videos because even if I don’t
agree with it I have no business
disliking it for me it’s not gonna serve
me you see so a lot of the times I
listen to other people who I don’t even
agree with just to see where they’re
coming from
and then realize okay even though I
don’t like this it shows that I’ve
passed out of every way
so what enables you so that’s a good
question for the people who are watching
what enables you to watch somebody who
is let’s say they’re a gray area people
there are some concepts they present
that you agree with and some that you
don’t agree with like how do you what do
you do with that because some people who
are stuck in the kind of black and white
thinking very difficult time you know
with that they have a very difficult
time say watching something that they
disagree with and not making it
discredit the totality of someone right
right what how do you do that for
actually do you even know how you do
that well it’s it’s difficult I’ve never
been one to just get into hating someone
we think of hating someone but a lot of
people do I always saying is polarity in
the universe for balance and that’s why
you need it not everyone will ever love
you a lot of people don’t like
strawberries even though you love them
so it’s a case where I kind of realize
it’s okay people don’t like infinite
waters I just don’t focus on that and if
I’m watching someone this is my
vibration I’m just very casual about it
and say okay would you say that you’re a
person who has a lot of internal wounds
or no definitely definitely I would say
I’m always one every day the more you
the deeper you dive the deeper it gets
and you that’s why I realized everybody
has it because being on planet Earth is
not easy at all we signed up for the
hardest lessons of all in
universe to come to a planet where
children are just born and dumped here
and there’s no guy there’s no manual so
I always say everyone is pretty much
going through the same thing so that’s
why by me doing it day in day out I’m
kind of discovering more and like you
said more tools that’s a great one I
have a lot of times where it does hit
sometimes people say things and I was
like oh my gosh but I always realized I
have to go out every day and and say can
I get a Hello that you’ve got to say
something
that’s gonna bring the energy up in what
you do because sometimes whenever even
we’re creating we’re so serious all the
time yeah we forget to view some humor
in it and you gotta laugh at yourself
and the audience you see and that’s why
a lot of us with I laugh a lot I always
make sure I’m having fun and when I’m
when I’m creating videos I don’t want to
just give people information it’s boring
it’s it’s not artistic for me I’ve got
to get a kick out of it and also a kick
out of myself sometimes I make videos
and it’s all shady sometimes I oh my
gosh who kiss and that’s why I am moved
into the one take where there’s no cuts
right so a lot of the times as well it’s
more liberating for myself if someone
says oh I don’t like it I don’t care
because tomorrow I’m already on to
another one we’ve got a lot of stuff to
do out here
it has no time to be caught up we’re
already moving so fast I think a lot of
people get hurt because once again
they’re still polishing the masterpiece
so I’ve created this great work and then
you’ll stuck where else you gonna go
like there is no perfection for me at
all every day it’s just the same like
I’m just renewing it I don’t say oh
that’s the best video this is I don’t
care about a video
I’m already on to another one and then
another one well I said some something
yes but that’s the biggest trap a lot of
people face with getting HUD is that
they put a masterpiece out into the
world it’s like you’re odd is amazing
you’ve spent hours days months on it
that if someone says oh I don’t like
that that color you should have made it
yellow know what you know how long it
took me to draw this so a lot of the
times that’s why you’ve got to almost
create effortlessly yeah where you just
create your signature you do it for
yourself but I always say once you own
your witness you’ve got to prove it
works till you’re connected with so many
people that it’s just proof that more
people are rooting for you than against
you so you got to look for the proof is
what you’re doing is it connecting with
a lot of people is it changing people’s
lives yes so once you’ve seen the proof
then just look more for the proof the
numbers don’t lie you should build a
great deal more time in light than
shadow don’t you yeah that’s how I am I
feel like that is what makes you and I
actually such an interesting like ebony
and ivory because it’s and if but it’s
reversed because it’s sort of like I
feel like when you’re faced with the
problem you tend to let go that way and
I tend to go that way and it’s like if
we both arrive at the same place right
you know so like you know when I’m when
I’m facing somebody who’s dealing with
hatred like I feel like what you do is
kind of open them up to like the light
and to the reality that like this is an
illusion
there’s no such whatever this you know
this person that you’re hating let’s
look at the illusion because I’m gonna
show you the life your actual
consciousness and what I tend to do is
to be like okay let’s dive into the
hatred as deep as we can go right and
then like it’s almost like the bottom
drops out after a while diving into that
kind of stuff and then you end up on the
other side of it yeah it’s weird like I
really get that want to talk to you then
we are approaching an angle like from
two completely different girls and boys
are in the same place
do you feel that way around me or no
definitely definitely I I noticed when I
used to watch your videos and still do
you you dive so deep into it but
sometimes in there like the other
direction as I do but we all will end up
at the same place and it’s amazing that
way I don’t want to have something in
between us and we could just go at them
from two angles
yeah yeah well that’s why it’s so
important what we’re doing now and
collaborating and showing the world
unity that’s what people are after it’s
like Bill Gates Steve Jobs to come
together they talk it out and that’s
what the world wants to see and and
that’s what a lot of people who are kind
of judging us when they see that they’re
like oh well I like infinite was all I
like till it’s like they’re split so
they got to have a wider perspective
okay something that I watch that’s a
real issue for me is that in the
spiritual field what we’re looking to do
so many of us that are practicing is to
get out into these bigger by happier
joyous places and so what what happens
when someone like you or I or without
the thousands of spiritual teachers that
came before us when we hand people these
spiritual truths which are truths that
exist in a let’s say seventh and plus
dimensional level things like we are oh
one when from the third dimensional
perception that is absolutely not the
case
is that what people tend to do is to
hold on to those concepts for dear life
not be able to look at anything in them
that contradicts those truths and so
when they encounter illusion or when
they encounter fear or anger or any of
those shall we say unacceptable places
they tend to bypass
I’m bringing you familiar with the
spirit of my past right so what would
you say about like helping people
understand the difference between when
there’s spiritual bypassing and when
they’re genuinely positively focusing
for example right well a lot of us we
like to pick and choose when it suits us
you see and we always do that especially
in the spiritual community lots of
people always doing it sometimes people
say well I’m at this job and everything
happens for a reason you don’t have to
be there at all you see so I think as
well it’s just like the gray
psychologist responds it take 100%
responsibility and and a lot of the
times as well there there is no excuse
sometimes just by labeling yourself to
do a certain thing you see it like you
said amazing quote like authenticity is
not just positive it’s also negative I
saw it on tumblr great job yeah right so
that’s so true as well and that’s why I
love what you do with with the shadow
work and everything as well because a
lot of us we always just focusing on the
positive someone thought something has
just happened to you and you’re like oh
just don’t worry about it it’s all part
of the divine order you’re like no it’s
not it’s definitely not something is
going wrong so I think it’s about
honesty and realizing there are certain
things that you don’t understand or
comprehend and that’s okay a lot of
people in this spiritual community and
people that Lodge we never like to say
we don’t know hmmm that’s scary
tormenting it’s tormenting we never like
say oh what happened well we always
think we have an answer which can also
be detrimental in the long run what do
you think about it what do I think about
people saying I don’t know it should
happen more often right but it’s yeah I
mean it’s it’s threatening when you’re
in a position of authority to basically
have to say that to people especially
when they’re all looking to you to lead
them right how do you deal with it I
usually say I don’t know but then I you
know steadily
or something why am I in this career
maybe I should quit I go into the I go
into the shadow by the way I’m the kind
of person I don’t like just rise above
it all I’m the kind of person that’s
like hmm you know so like I’ll go I’ll
go down into like I should quit my job I
don’t even know why I’m here why am i
telling other people have looked my life
like I can’t even lose my life right and
then it’s like it’s somewhere down there
there’s a kind of transformation that
happens and then a realization and I’ll
be like background cloud9 again is
inspiration and then the next thing
happens but and I’ve seen it like your
earlier videos a lot of it was more
metaphysical yes and those are the you
know they’re those are like kick-started
everything but then I saw you delve more
into human problems with that like a
conscious choice because you were you
were diving into crystals and I started
being interested okay right really when
I first started this career what it was
as I was surprised that people didn’t
know some of the things that I just knew
about the universe’s right it’s like
really like you don’t know this about
the universe at large for an
extrasensory it’s like I’m am I supposed
to a whole range of things that the
average person doesn’t see so I was like
oh this is great I can just tell them
about all these subjects that are second
nature to me but my own inspiration
started to be a bell like alright how do
you actually live here on planet Earth
right because like regardless of whether
you know all this information about
crystals or know all this information
about the fourth fifth and sixth
dimension like how do you actually
practically work with grief because
that’s the kind of stuff that traps us
yeah when I looked at the world it goes
as a teacher you’re basically looking at
the world you’re looking at needs and
when I want to teach I want to teach
what the need is and when I’m so what
I’m looking in the world looking what’s
causing war and causing struggle and
causing pain causing suffering here it’s
easy most of it’s the emotional system
our lack of understanding about it and
our inability to be able to self reflect
and so I was like okay that’s my area of
interest how do we you take a physical
human and get them to be introspective
enough that they can come out of these
triggers so as to not cause absolute
havoc to themselves and everyone around
them now that are like better question
how the hell do I do that because that’s
where like most of your inspirations to
this from your own life nobody wants to
admit this by the way but I’m just going
to
okay like most of the spiritual teachers
if not all of us draw our inspiration
from what we are struggling with the
most so if you have issues with
relationships it’s almost like wow let
me figure my way out of this and then
we’ll you when you kind of start the
exploration you come to insights and
then those insights then get shared
great so yeah I struggle with emotions
great right just be honest
well same as me and and I think so many
people do and I feel that’s why you’ve
got to always remind yourself how brave
you are for even doing this because what
you’re doing and what I’m doing we’re
actually talking about it a lot of
people who do art they make songs about
it when they put in a very kind of
subtle way but we actually sing it which
takes even more courage you see and and
they use it against you and then they
use it against you everything you say
people use it as ammo but that’s why
it’s so important just to once again
look for the proof look for and focus on
all the people that support you and
people like when we connect and we
create that’s the most important thing
because I always say if no one’s talking
about you well then you’re not doing
anything yeah you see because when
you’re just starting out on YouTube
nobody cares but as soon as tills been
doing this doing workshops in Australia
what people get nosy and they try to
look for something they can say about
you and there’s so much thing and a lot
of people they take time to make videos
and they take time to break you down and
sometimes they’ve got so much anger in
their voice that is captivating for
people to listen to because they put on
a show and I always say that it’s really
up to the listeners to decide if you
haven’t even got control over that we
have not know so a lot of the times you
just gotta let it float in the ocean and
see what happens you know brother
because when I wash it it applies to
discernment again when I had what when I
noticed a lot of the people who are not
trusting
themselves right it’s not about trust
yourself and if you trusted yourself
you’d love ralpher trust yourself and if
you trusted yourself you’d love to you
let’s Luda just like look trust yourself
and just look whatever the answer that
comes be the answer that’s right for you
um when people watch things like that
you know slander articles or hate videos
the general energy of those types of
videos which is hatred usually makes
people feel really uncomfortable inside
if it’s a slander article written about
a person they then associate the way
they feel reading it with the person
that they’re reading about yes and they
equate it to each other and so it’s like
oh wow that must be the essence of this
but as well a lot of the times they twin
now a lot of people don’t want to feel
that way see it doesn’t feel good when
you when you’re looking at and trying to
break someone down even when you’re
watching it like you can’t like watch it
without feeling negative so you have to
experience negative that’s why once
again it’s a conscious choice on has to
make and a lot of people who watch those
kind of videos on and on they own life
is spiraling completely so look I mean
it’s a good thing as it applies to
discernment it’s an interesting thing
when I’m looking at this thing or when
I’m watching this person how does it
make me feel it’s a good thing to ask
yourself because I mean that kind of is
your tell is just bringing me up or is
this bringing me down yeah but like but
then but then how do we how this is the
problem it’s like how do you do that but
then not going to bypassing cuz like
it’s real easy it’s not comfortable to
focus on the stuff you know that that
scares you yeah let’s just be honest
yeah so so what is the difference I mean
can you discern a difference between
this thing that is uncomfortable still
feels good for me to do because I can
feel that my growth pattern is there or
this thing that feels uncomfortable also
feels super negative
right right well I thought you have to
sit with it you see if there’s nothing
bad inherently about someone making a
slander video about someone it’s just
free speech and you should be able to
watch it but if you feel a certain way
once again it’s definitely rattled some
bones within yours definitely like oh my
gosh so it’s good they’ve given you
something to think about which you may
not have thought about before but I
always say like we said once you expose
your dirty laundry it shouldn’t be new
news should be old news oh you didn’t
know that oh what the hell are you
talking about you see we don’t have to
really defend ourselves which is where
we get all so caught up to get caught in
the trap someone says okay teal is like
this and then till says no I’m not then
once again you fall into they fall into
the trap and you’ve given that person
even more food yes so that’s what’s good
about becoming famous if you really
think we’re eating you like you know how
much we have to do that right brain like
I ran up against something like that
where it’s like a whole thing and I can
feel the defensive Ness and I’m like
that’s not true at all and then I’m like
okay what in me is getting triggered
right now like what is this a threat to
dropping into the feeling like where did
that original wound come from like
obviously there’s a none security to me
and it’s something that’s accurate by
the way the fact that like if there if
something really bothers you there’s
always some sort of insecurity yeah I
think the the it hurts the most I think
when is someone who is on the same level
as you oh who is doing the exact same
maybe it’s another author way something
like oh if I was to make a video about
you and say look I teal is crazy you
know and all of these things and you
know if you made one about me out there
my goodness I would die you know and and
that’s where I think it really cuts the
most maybe someone who’s just out of the
Woodworks you know I always look at
other people’s profiles of who is this
person
what are you doing so I think it’s as
well you also got a you know taking
discernment for that person say okay I’m
not gonna judge them because I can see
that they just want to make a name for
themselves which is the oldest trick in
the book talk about someone who’s
already out there and then oh my gosh
now they’ll focus on you but if it’s
someone who has nothing to lose and
they’re talking about you’re like huh
where did that come from and then I
think that’s the hardest part
but have you dealt with that yeah right
right right right
so how do you deal with it what’s helped
you really as a toolkit realizing that
my current pain is not current pain
right because I mean this is the thing
if your mind was everything on on this
earth then you could talk yourself out
of a problem immediately like if my mind
was the only thing that was dealing with
an issue I could instantly feel better
this is like the issue that we’ve got is
that even these somebody you know like
you were I who come in with all of this
information universal information
sometimes it is not enough to talk you
out of the emotional reactivity that you
feel yeah so when I when I started to
really dive into this I realized that my
current upsets are always linked to
something that I didn’t have the
capacity to deal with earlier so for
example you know the recently actually I
had a fellow spiritual teacher come out
violently against me and not only that
ask all of her followers in fact to put
a stop to me which presented some
serious issues for my career but I went
into it that like why is this hurting me
so bad thing and I was right back to my
childhood growing up in a town where I
was not the I did not my family was not
saying religion as everybody else’s at
town and so the adults in that
particular environment were always
focusing on me as if something was
really wrong they didn’t want me
influencing their kids and it was that
wound and so rather than making it about
that that woman in the current time
which it wasn’t
I made my healing be about this child my
childhood experience relative to the you
know the LDS community which it was the
one that done so much damage with me as
a kid and I’ve noticed that when I when
I healed that in her child aspect of me
the reactivity didn’t really it wasn’t
there anymore it was like I could look
at the situation and not really feel as
damaged by it right right what that’s so
important I feel what you’ve done is is
phenomenal because there are lots of
spiritual teachers who are on YouTube
but then they kind of they’ve got a
following but they’re not on the
internet and and you’re only internet
which is the hardest thing to do in the
world especially on YouTube where people
can hit this like comment and then hide
behind a blank avatar and everyday are
for the judge every video you put out
someone you know you’re in the gladiator
arena oh no sometimes I post things on
the way yeah yeah
they take word out of context yeah it is
hard and and that’s I think the hardest
part as well is when you’re kind of
reading the comments I don’t do it right
but you can’t avoid all of them you
can’t you constantly
you can’t avoid all of it but I feel
that’s as well when when you what I’ve
stepped into is what I call infinite
creation where I’m moving so fast that
really and truly it’s almost like I’m
having a little play around I’m just
playing with it so you’re having you get
any key calorie I’m not trying to say
okay this is for you because by tomorrow
we’ve already changed the whole scenery
around so oh you’re on what’s happened
last week you see so it’s almost like
never just giving something to somebody
on a plate and saying oh here it is all
packaged up like just make it whatever
you want
and that way you almost free yourself
from the pressure of trying to make
someone’s day and give them all of this
great information because a lot of the
times people get stuck and then they
equate you with the stuckness say til
but step 5 I try this and writing your
emails are you what the hell are you
talking about we see that right I only
ever get emails that Rick against me as
a person right right
like you wrote listen nobody actually
writes me articles or argue with my
material right because the again your
material is so sound and and I feel
because it’s so sound right bummed I’m
rather
that could be like oh we didn’t have
constructive conversations right break
it’s like teals Illuminati you’re an
Illuminati I hope you realize you have a
handler right right right
well well as well I feel because when I
read your articles and what your videos
it’s amazing but I feel your articles
have even more of teal inside them oh
yeah because I’m a writer
because you’re a writer you see and I
feel a lot of people on the videos have
to read your articles because I think
what your article is just like wow like
so many different sides of you and
sometimes you know you go into a casual
talking when you’re writing it’s just
like yeah homely teal you see and I feel
like the videos are amazing as well but
I think it’s so sound it’s so amazing
the information that a lot of people
they’re trying to look for something
just to say hey you know this copyright
and then it concerts you and then people
they go into the personal life oh
there’s enough there you see they do the
background checks who is this woman with
all of this great information and then
once again they they can’t separate the
two and then they said oh it’s rubbish
because they think people should
separate the two well I definitely feel
that definitely you see like
Krishnamurti said people they praised
the vows instead of seeing the water in
sight you know don’t don’t praise me I’m
just the vessel you do really think
within this first community this is an
entire debate whether whether the
information someone presents should be
separate from the person themselves or
whether they are an extension of the
very same thing so like when some
spiritual teachers say down in India is
having sex with little kids right like
all of their information should be
thrown out because it’s coming through a
vessel that’s poisoned or is it that
even if this person I mean getting
aggressive because I’m using an extreme
scenario because I feel like it’s
important so yes
or should this person who is having sex
with little kids in India be separated
out from the information that they
brought in right that’s that’s a great
question and I feel a lot of the time
yes and it’s always gonna be difficult I
always say live by your words that’s the
old man
easy if only it was that easy that would
be the whole world could be a magical
place for the unicorns around but a lot
of the times we have to realize I’ve
never seen a perfect person and because
of that people have to take words as
words and people as people that’s what I
wish people would actually try things on
for size if it resonates with them so
you listen to something you think might
want to try that try it and see if it
works for you like and that let that be
the tell ya as well I think the biggest
problem as well people sharing
information is that they want Authority
yeah with authority comes credibility
with credibility becomes reputation with
reputation comes pressure yeah so the
thing is if you want to be taken
seriously you’ve got to play the role
but that’s even so many people on
YouTube like the highest YouTube
PewDiePie who is just playing video
games you know really crazy so he can do
whatever he wants
nobody’s gonna bat an eyelid you see
because he’s just crazy to begin with so
I feel a lot of us who are sharing
information we’ve got to do something
and I can throw people off give people
their unexpected and then people would
they take the information then they’ll
say ok it’s fine you see but when we try
and just give perfect words and an image
then once again
people aren’t still satisfied so you
might as well just be wild anyway video
should be under my head
yes that’s a great stuff and you see
that’s always for me I realized that
everything that’s why I started to say
kind of get a hello there because I
realized ok if I say that that’s
automatically gonna free me from this
perfect being I’m already going in crazy
expect craziness from stuff and and
throughout the video but a lot of people
they stop when they’re talking very
serious really I start that way right
right well that’s I’m like she’s amazing
and and it’s like a lot of people might
see it in like well gosh it’s too
perfect you see Banksy and all of these
artists they they always create art
which is sometimes very
I never figured crossing over to the
video format like to tell you the honest
truth up so it’s interesting and what’s
what happening today we’re when you and
I are talking cuz it’s like I have the
blog is where I do that and then the
videos were is sort of like my crafted
crafted masterpiece basically so it’s
like I never really considered crossing
over to the video for who knows what
today’s gonna do I don’t think I got a
real handle on my humor yet yeah well a
lot of the times I see you laughing in
videos and it’s I saw you did what with
Blake and it’s amazing because where you
were laughing at know the old video but
you were laughing doing sign at the end
which feels completely different and
it’s always like okay whatever and I
feel that kind of relaxation that you
experience also goes through the
audience even more and with relaxation
there’s always a free pass like oh
whatever you see and a lot of us we
always caught up with people trying to
get the message that it becomes
sometimes quite stiff and therefore
people receive it stiff and therefore
their judgments are stiff that’s an
interesting perspective on how the law
of attraction applies to receiving
information right yeah because a lot of
the times it’s like when you go in as an
underdog
you’ll always be fine when you go in as
someone who knows it all then you
already created criticism yes he’s a
quick right right oh yeah don’t you
think it’s possible that going in always
is the underdog
a shadow aspect too if someone that’s
not willing to take the pressure
definitely definitely can always happen
you see we can’t really please everyone
that’s one of the four agreements it’s
never personal and and that’s the
biggest thing but at the same time it
does feel personal I always go on
people’s level of consciousness and
those as well what they’re doing and if
a lot of people they’re just new to this
journey I expect a lot of Chris’s
criticism a lot of the times you
probably receive emails oh my gosh – I
really love you sorry first I was kind
of doubting you but now so you always
get emails like that do you yeah okay
great right people who have turned
around first they were really against
you now they’ve taken time so a lot of
times we’re in with doing this every day
a lot of people are living a busy
lifestyle we all are but a lot of people
are going to work and in a job they
don’t like and then come home and then
you’re saying these things yeah till
eventually it kicks home you know it
comes home to them and they’re like wow
yeah I forget a lot of times by the way
the people have like normal lives yeah
we’re doing this okay all day all day
and a lot of us we forget a lot of
people at just they’re touching the
water they’re not going inside and when
you go inside the ocean is totally
different you must in the salt water
you’re moving around a lot of people
they’re afraid to swim so they’re gonna
judge the ocean of course yes yeah we’ll
all be diving deep and having fun thank
you I will wait I love you I love
everything you’re doing and really it’s
all about unity right now that’s the biggest thing yes
well it’s great great to be here I’m
just grateful obviously awesome to see
you here in my country Elif I just
earned my country yeah in the u.s.
instead of in London because last time
we were doing your face face we’re in
London right yeah yeah it’s just full
circle what brought you to the United
States well there’s so many deep divers
out here and California is just about a
lot of health wellness and for me it’s
just fun just to meet people you’ve been
to London you know what it’s like yes so
so what I wanted to talk about today I
think with you was this some what I’m
noticing a lot of lately is that the
world right now feels really unstable as
people when the world goes into a state
of instability people start to feel
really afraid so it creates a kind of
emotional inflammation the way that I
like to describe it is it’s almost like
people are kind of like pufferfish if
you’re walking around in the state of
defense against each other and not
against not just against people against
ideas as well and so what I’m watching
in the spiritual community specifically
is this a real I guess lack of self
trust in people and the state of
reactivity against what they perceived
to be as a threat and a lot of that is
directed at each other at alternative
ideas a lot of this director that you
know people like yourself and I as
teachers where it’s it’s sort of like I
don’t know whether to trust this person
or this thing and so if I read any
information it’s contradictory to the
person or to the ideas now suddenly I am
thrown into a state of crisis because
like who do I believe is as this person
totally a fraud are they horrible is
what they’re saying totally not true
based off of all this information and so
people are going into this kind of
defensive crisis so I was wondering
first off whether you’ve been noticing
the same thing
definitely I’ve been noticing it all
along whenever you put yourself out
there you put yourself out there you’re
literally the sacrificial lamb
that’s why anyone that’s doing this work
you gotta be so brave like I remember
back in 2013 I was just like gosh teal
can do this every week because it’s not
easy there’s a reason why a lot of
people don’t want to share anything
because of the backlash a lot of people
they delve into your personal life and I
think that’s why a lot of us who are
doing this what you want to remind
people that I’m not a saint expect a
scandal every week because the more you
kind of show yourself to be perfected
then that’s when people start to dig up
debt that’s like someone like Russell
Brand who’s kind of crazy anyway he’s
amazing but it’s like you kind of expect
that so that’s what I always do I always
try and fuse a lot of humor in it don’t
expect perfection from me at all I say
the same thing but it doesn’t seem to
change the way that people react it’s
almost like there’s such an expectation
of spiritual teachers that they’d be the
absolute image of perfection that if
anything is presented that is contrary
to that perfectionistic ideal now
suddenly they have to throw the baby out
with the bathwater it’s kind of like
well if there’s one defect that this
person shows and what else is defective
about what they’ve said great so I would
really love as if if people actually
learned discernment for themselves I
feel like that’s where we’re headed in
the spiritual field and I feel like the
spiritual revolution that’s happening
right now is that gurus are essentially
coming off of their pedestal because
what we recognize those teachers is for
thousands of years we’ve been doing that
we’ve been doing the pedestal thing so
follow us listen to what we say and if
you just practice this crap you’re gonna
finally figure out how to live life
right but no it’s kind of like we’re
coming up the post holes because we’re
seeing how much damage that has done yes
so what kind of damage have you
perceived that the pedestal affect us
well I see a lot of times people they
feel threatened if they can’t if they’re
not living that lifestyle that’s why a
lot of the times when I make videos I
always do short videos sometimes I do
videos on the beach sometimes with other
people so I’m not kind of just doing one
style of videos I think that’s where a
lot of people fall into problems if
you’re just doing the video every week
or twice a week and it’s in a set way
because your amazing website you know
you have from reading your amazing
articles I’m like gosh I want to see
teal doing that on YouTube and and a lot
of the times I probably will help people
a lot more to have in a discernment and
that’s what helps me because a lot of
people know okay Ralph is gonna say
anything that’s what you’ve got to
expect I could talk about grape so I
could talk about making money or I can
talk about anything because I’m showing
people different sizes myself every
single day what do you think the hardest
challenge you face right now because
you’ve been doing it for so long do you
think that you’ve reached a point where
your trainer find a new path in what
you’re doing because you’re an artist
and artists always are on the next level
just like just change the whole game
completely I can feel that that might be
something that comes up but the hardest
thing for me right now with my career is
the fact that like I’ve gotten to a
pinnacle point in my career especially
because of how revolutionary I tend to
be my ideals and my decision of course
to put my entire private life out in the
public eye where the level of
controversy that I’ve got going is so
high that we’re dealing with serious
security risks at every event that I go
to we’re dealing with death threats
we’re dealing with like public slander
just the crazy amounts of it to the
degree that a lot of people in this
business I was real scared to touch me
they’re like well I don’t know if I’m
gonna go and do this heal thing because
by virtue of association we’re either
going to be exalted or condemned so it’s
that polarization that really I struggle
with and of course trying to find
point of Attraction within me for the
amount of hatred that I’m facing right
now in the world because it’s it’s
really hard like I said earlier it’s
really really hard is to basically to be
so excited about this thing you’re going
to create and to feel like you’re giving
such a great thing to the world and to
have it just slaughtered to have it just
sort of slaughtered I almost feel like
there’s an SOP I mean it feels like a
little kid who’s drawn a picture and I’m
just super excited to show people that
picture so I run up on stage and go like
this and then people throw to me as and
shoot holes through it and I’m like oh
my god like what just happened right so
it’s very hard to feel the same level of
confidence when that continues to happen
and you can feel yourself because I’m
when people like us get in the flow that
can’t be interrupted by the what-ifs
yeah that’s where you lead at least a
sermon Appalachian I’m gonna basically
structure this so that that’s accepted
the perfect way that I want to and
structure it so that I get the reaction
I want is a lot more of an inhibited
process than the free flow of just plain
channeling so the real struggle for me
is how do I keep it pure channeling and
not get tied up in this panic about oh
the minute I say that they’re gonna take
it this way so I have to cover all my
bases and then it becomes more of a
impure form right right it’s been
challenging for me as well but I lent a
secret that you don’t want to get stuck
on the masterpiece
and I realized when I was putting out
videos like sometimes once a week or
whatever it would make people would just
hang on the last video I’ve done so I
realized when I was releasing a lot of
videos whatever’s on my mind it’s like
oh my gosh people are seeing so many
different sites you know so if you say
something like in one day tomorrow you
can say it and then go over in people’s
minds but if you kind of leave people
hanging for a whole week oh my gosh till
seeing this and it’s like they take it
completely
context oh I’m easy to take out of
context yep right right yes sure but as
well I think it’s the whole getting more
personal with people that’s what I
always love to do sometimes and that’s
why I think when you break it up it
allows people to almost say okay I can’t
just judge Jill for doing this because
I’m seeing different sides of her I
think a lot of the traps we fall in this
we just want to show the world one side
of us sometimes and then that’s that was
my problem for a long time until I
realized who kiss you see I think it’s
the gurus and a lot of teachers what
they have to do is also learn from other
people who in the complete opposite
spectrum on YouTube for example you’ve
got people like jenna Marbles who’s with
their dogs talking and that’s genius and
what you’re doing is genius but what
about fusing both worlds together
entertainment and and you know just
helping people so because a lot of times
whenever you’re trying to help people
that’s when people start judging you
it’s the whole story when you don’t want
to help anybody they love you for it
when you tell people you know just ruin
your life then they’ll support you but
the moment you’re trying to help people
then people say who are you have you
ascended somewhere and then they try and
find out stuff about you so I always say
it helps when you can play yourself down
that’s what I’ve tried to do with my
blog since having the opposite effect
Rae like literally I put this myself out
there with the vulnerability and like
look this is this is the story behind
closed doors which is no longer behind
closed doors paper a she’s exposing it
and it’s almost like that’s causing its
own eye this is not what I want is to
follow us somebody who’s got issues with
X Y & Z right and well I am like
watching some serious reactivity so what
I wanted to talk to you about basically
was like what will your advice be to the
people who are on the other end wanting
to learn from spiritual teachers like I
mean because what I feel like is it’s
really super critical for people to
develop discernment what I usually talk
about the fact that I feel like today
our modern spiritual practice
needs to be about creating a religion
built for one so that you are
essentially you become your own guru you
become your own access to spiritual
information and you you’re sort of
looking at the world as a source or
whatever you want to call it this united
consciousness is able to speak through
anything and everything and so you’re
just sort of watching out in the world
for that message or that tool or that
thing that benefits your life so it’s
almost like if you can think of a
spiritual practitioner as somebody who
has a toolbox and you want to fill that
toolbox with all the tools that work for
you specifically and what works for one
person is going to be different than
what works for another person so
essentially all somebody like you or I
are as a spiritual teacher terms of
function in the world if somebody who
sells a lot of tools yeah and so it like
what if we could approach everything in
anyone as if you’re looking for that one
tool that works as opposed to you know
condemning the person who’s selling the
tools or making it about the person who
sells the tools great I think it’s a lot
safer too because quite frankly I mean
look how many scandals have happened
over the last thousand years with people
who are in positions of spiritual
authority yes it would be better I feel
like if people could kind of learn how
to separate out the baby with the
bathwater and be like you know what if
this aspect of their personal life helps
me well it’s pretend it’s my blog in
this case right ring or you know those
videos where you’re showing people what
you do just on a normal date like look
I’m on the beach today if that helps
that person that’s a tool that assists
them if that doesn’t help another person
they can set that aside and look for
another aspect of the tools and neither
of our repertoire and use that right so
I mean it’s an interesting way of
looking at the world because we have the
tendency to do black or white right if
people want to condemn yeah
or else exalt like there’s nothing in
between so it doesn’t allow for the
nuances that are a natural part of
humanity and whether we like to admit it
or not most people in spirit when you
don’t want to admit they’re human it’s
like no we’re just trans we’re
pretending to be human for not really
human I would almost rather I say no
we’re both human and divine yeah
definitely I say what helps me is saying
this is what’s helping me along my
journey you know a lot of the times I
mean infinite waters is growing so much
and a lot of people always bring that up
oh it’s like you’re not telling me what
to do
I’m just explaining this is what’s
helped me so I think when you make it
more of a narrative it’s a lot people
can kind of use more inner discernment
they’re like oh okay I I can I’m not
gonna just judge on straight away but as
soon as you say okay this is what to do
boom boom boom boom without putting your
own personal touch of his story in it
and then people might take it the wrong
way it’s almost like professor who’s
saying do this do this and they do it
they may not work for them so they blame
the professor mm-hm but you’ve got to
put a massive disclaimer this may not
work for you um I’m not here to kind of
change your life I’m just sharing what’s
helped me along my journey because a lot
of the times people they’re very
desperate to for help and sometimes
that’s where the pressure comes in if it
doesn’t go right and they look to the
person who was given the advice in the
first place so you want to just say
massive disclaimer this probably won’t
help but me but I think as well it’s
also we’ve got to kind of remind people
that this isn’t the only guide for you
this is only a perspective yes and and
that’s why I always say that all the way
all the time because otherwise people
they think oh she’s figuring it all out
and meanwhile behind the scenes there’s
a lot of craziness going on so I think
that’s where people they might start to
judge people when they say okay you’re
talking about this but why are you
talking about what’s actually happening
in your life and I think that’s where a
lot of teachers have to bring more out
what’s happening in their life I agree
you know to the public I don’t really
agree right right 100% yeah yeah that
that’s the biggest thing you’ve got to
talk about it because like you were
saying should we talk about people who
sometimes make videos I’ve had videos
made about me and and sometimes you
don’t always have to just go at them
specifically but you can always raise it
up you know in a way where you can talk
about people who want supporting you and
then you know bring it out there because
at the end of the day it’s a kick it’s a
way of letting go of fear you know and
realizing it’s not as
serious people have been talking since
the dawn of mankind about other people
yeah yeah they’re you you honestly need
to tell me they like even you come out
there with your public and personal life
people are like fine with it or do you
still in capture the resistance I always
encounter resistance a lot of times
people because a lot of people when I’m
sharing video some people say gosh for
instance a lot of people say gosh were
alphas so friendly with the ladies he’s
always saying infinite love imbalance
and you know so a lot of the times but
that’s always who I’ve been
you see I mean saw might say okay
or often even had a lot of resistance
you see even though a lot of people say
gosh ralphus always posting pictures on
facebook and stuff like that and I’ve
had those so you’re pretty hard right
right but you know there’s always gonna
be something I’ve had a lot of people
who say Ralphy I don’t like your intro
please stop saying can I get a Hello
there because it’s distracting me lots
of people writing in that but then lots
of people saying oh I love it
so really it’s got to do with you you
know I always say how people treat you
will see you has nothing to do with you
it’s got everything to do with them but
at the same time it does definitely like
you say we can’t just stop worrying
about what people think it does affect
us so we have to really realize okay why
you know a lot of the times it’s because
it’s also a catalyst for our own groups
when someone say something and it stings
you’re like why did that stink so much
they hid somewhere yeah and and a lot of
the times I always say you’ve got a lot
of people around who are gonna say some
things and it’s gonna tricky when
certain people say things and it doesn’t
so it’s up to us as well to kind of find
why did that trigger me well that was
exactly the point I was gonna bring up
about discernment I feel like yeah
actually our triggers present the
greatest opportunity potentially for
working with discernment because it’s
like the second that that hits we have
that opportunity it’s like a wide-open
door to be to try to figure out like
what part this is me and what part this
is
other person like why is this of course
about inner questioning yeah why is this
bothering me so bad what is it about me
that this particular thing threatens
like what is it that I’m afraid of all
of those big questions it’s the only way
we can really discern what is intuition
versus what is our mind which done
fear-based
ego of course coming in and taking over
the show is to really confront the
aspects that could potentially be ego
what is what about me and my identity
essentially is this particular thing
threatening then we can actually it’s
almost like you’re peeling the veneer
off so that you can actually see the
essence of what’s underneath it becomes
very clear what to do or what not to do
when you do something like that but I
feel like people are not taught to self
question right we’re we are basically
raised thinking that what’s normal is
reactivity so you have that trigger and
then cently do something as a result of
it either reject the person yellow the
person it’s like it’s some sort of an
external action that has taken as a
result of that trigger right and what
would you say you’ve been putting out
yes yourself out there for so many years
has every year become easier because
you’ve got more confidence or is it
becoming more challenging as bigger
you’re growing and stuff I noticed that
it goes in waves okay so like to begin
the first initial putting myself out
there was terrifying right oh my gosh
you know I’m really doing this and then
that was received well and it went
awesome then I encountered my first wave
of like not everybody loves teal and
when I of course ran up against that
that pushed on all of my deep wounds of
being rejected and ostracized as a kid
and like all that kind of stuff and so I
had to deal with that which was not easy
and then I kind of broke through that
and I say busy getting famous is pretty
much the best way to desensitize
yourself to being hated because it’s
gonna happen yeah and like you sort of
struggle with it and then you either die
because of it or you just sort of become
used to it so I’m becoming used to it
but as I get bigger it seems like the
waves get bigger also and so like
recently I’ve been hit with a really big
one like super big one where some of the
hatred is coming from
people who were very very close to me
and so it’s that level of betrayal
essentially which has been coming up
big-time that’s been more difficult for
me than any of the rest of it right
right so it’s the wave effect and I’m
hoping that one day the way is you know
I kind of rise above the way so they
just don’t really impact me on an
emotional level impact my career on the
emotional we shall see well well that’s
another thing because the YouTube is one
of the biggest websites in the world and
I always look at other people’s YouTube
channels some of the really popular ones
and they’re always collaborating with
each other so that unity really helps
people to use in their descendants a oh
wait till with Ralph and but they are
the person who was doing YouTube as well
you’re working together people are
seeing the unity and now it’s like oh my
gosh it’s a it’s it’s all coming
together but I think a lot of us we’re
always doing separate things too much so
a lot of people are like oh my gosh they
don’t see enough unity so then it’s yeah
it’s hard for artists to collaborate
it’s hard it’s hard time it in his HUD
but we did it two years ago three years
ago we’ve been doing it and it’s so
important because people love when we
connect we’re doing the same thing in
different ways but it’s so important for
people to see unity I always say a great
thing is that we’ve never gone at each
other I think that’s the biggest what
like you’ve given me occasion right
right right right you know well a lot of
the times it can happen because
sometimes the ego can creep in and even
though people are doing the same things
there’s a lot of slander and I think
what we’ve done is amazing because we
I’m always watching your videos I’m
sharing your videos and it’s likewise
it’s the same way I think people just
have to show that even more because that
way then people start to see oh my god
it’s like a cross audience and people
start to oh my gosh and then they they
begin to have a wider perspective so
what tell me about you you’re like you
using discern in your live well a lot of
the times I’ve always been a free being
like I had a racism exist
to me gender doesn’t exist to me all of
these things are illusions that’s why I
connect with so many people because I
always make sure I remind them that so
because of that people I attracted me a
very open people and that’s why it’s
infinite waters because it’s infinite
it’s all in the name we don’t have any
separation so a lot of the times as well
that’s why I don’t even dislike
anybody’s videos because even if I don’t
agree with it I have no business
disliking it for me it’s not gonna serve
me you see so a lot of the times I
listen to other people who I don’t even
agree with just to see where they’re
coming from
and then realize okay even though I
don’t like this it shows that I’ve
passed out of every way
so what enables you so that’s a good
question for the people who are watching
what enables you to watch somebody who
is let’s say they’re a gray area people
there are some concepts they present
that you agree with and some that you
don’t agree with like how do you what do
you do with that because some people who
are stuck in the kind of black and white
thinking very difficult time you know
with that they have a very difficult
time say watching something that they
disagree with and not making it
discredit the totality of someone right
right what how do you do that for
actually do you even know how you do
that well it’s it’s difficult I’ve never
been one to just get into hating someone
we think of hating someone but a lot of
people do I always saying is polarity in
the universe for balance and that’s why
you need it not everyone will ever love
you a lot of people don’t like
strawberries even though you love them
so it’s a case where I kind of realize
it’s okay people don’t like infinite
waters I just don’t focus on that and if
I’m watching someone this is my
vibration I’m just very casual about it
and say okay would you say that you’re a
person who has a lot of internal wounds
or no definitely definitely I would say
I’m always one every day the more you
the deeper you dive the deeper it gets
and you that’s why I realized everybody
has it because being on planet Earth is
not easy at all we signed up for the
hardest lessons of all in
universe to come to a planet where
children are just born and dumped here
and there’s no guy there’s no manual so
I always say everyone is pretty much
going through the same thing so that’s
why by me doing it day in day out I’m
kind of discovering more and like you
said more tools that’s a great one I
have a lot of times where it does hit
sometimes people say things and I was
like oh my gosh but I always realized I
have to go out every day and and say can
I get a Hello that you’ve got to say
something
that’s gonna bring the energy up in what
you do because sometimes whenever even
we’re creating we’re so serious all the
time yeah we forget to view some humor
in it and you gotta laugh at yourself
and the audience you see and that’s why
a lot of us with I laugh a lot I always
make sure I’m having fun and when I’m
when I’m creating videos I don’t want to
just give people information it’s boring
it’s it’s not artistic for me I’ve got
to get a kick out of it and also a kick
out of myself sometimes I make videos
and it’s all shady sometimes I oh my
gosh who kiss and that’s why I am moved
into the one take where there’s no cuts
right so a lot of the times as well it’s
more liberating for myself if someone
says oh I don’t like it I don’t care
because tomorrow I’m already on to
another one we’ve got a lot of stuff to
do out here
it has no time to be caught up we’re
already moving so fast I think a lot of
people get hurt because once again
they’re still polishing the masterpiece
so I’ve created this great work and then
you’ll stuck where else you gonna go
like there is no perfection for me at
all every day it’s just the same like
I’m just renewing it I don’t say oh
that’s the best video this is I don’t
care about a video
I’m already on to another one and then
another one well I said some something
yes but that’s the biggest trap a lot of
people face with getting HUD is that
they put a masterpiece out into the
world it’s like you’re odd is amazing
you’ve spent hours days months on it
that if someone says oh I don’t like
that that color you should have made it
yellow know what you know how long it
took me to draw this so a lot of the
times that’s why you’ve got to almost
create effortlessly yeah where you just
create your signature you do it for
yourself but I always say once you own
your witness you’ve got to prove it
works till you’re connected with so many
people that it’s just proof that more
people are rooting for you than against
you so you got to look for the proof is
what you’re doing is it connecting with
a lot of people is it changing people’s
lives yes so once you’ve seen the proof
then just look more for the proof the
numbers don’t lie you should build a
great deal more time in light than
shadow don’t you yeah that’s how I am I
feel like that is what makes you and I
actually such an interesting like ebony
and ivory because it’s and if but it’s
reversed because it’s sort of like I
feel like when you’re faced with the
problem you tend to let go that way and
I tend to go that way and it’s like if
we both arrive at the same place right
you know so like you know when I’m when
I’m facing somebody who’s dealing with
hatred like I feel like what you do is
kind of open them up to like the light
and to the reality that like this is an
illusion
there’s no such whatever this you know
this person that you’re hating let’s
look at the illusion because I’m gonna
show you the life your actual
consciousness and what I tend to do is
to be like okay let’s dive into the
hatred as deep as we can go right and
then like it’s almost like the bottom
drops out after a while diving into that
kind of stuff and then you end up on the
other side of it yeah it’s weird like I
really get that want to talk to you then
we are approaching an angle like from
two completely different girls and boys
are in the same place
do you feel that way around me or no
definitely definitely I I noticed when I
used to watch your videos and still do
you you dive so deep into it but
sometimes in there like the other
direction as I do but we all will end up
at the same place and it’s amazing that
way I don’t want to have something in
between us and we could just go at them
from two angles
yeah yeah well that’s why it’s so
important what we’re doing now and
collaborating and showing the world
unity that’s what people are after it’s
like Bill Gates Steve Jobs to come
together they talk it out and that’s
what the world wants to see and and
that’s what a lot of people who are kind
of judging us when they see that they’re
like oh well I like infinite was all I
like till it’s like they’re split so
they got to have a wider perspective
okay something that I watch that’s a
real issue for me is that in the
spiritual field what we’re looking to do
so many of us that are practicing is to
get out into these bigger by happier
joyous places and so what what happens
when someone like you or I or without
the thousands of spiritual teachers that
came before us when we hand people these
spiritual truths which are truths that
exist in a let’s say seventh and plus
dimensional level things like we are oh
one when from the third dimensional
perception that is absolutely not the
case
is that what people tend to do is to
hold on to those concepts for dear life
not be able to look at anything in them
that contradicts those truths and so
when they encounter illusion or when
they encounter fear or anger or any of
those shall we say unacceptable places
they tend to bypass
I’m bringing you familiar with the
spirit of my past right so what would
you say about like helping people
understand the difference between when
there’s spiritual bypassing and when
they’re genuinely positively focusing
for example right well a lot of us we
like to pick and choose when it suits us
you see and we always do that especially
in the spiritual community lots of
people always doing it sometimes people
say well I’m at this job and everything
happens for a reason you don’t have to
be there at all you see so I think as
well it’s just like the gray
psychologist responds it take 100%
responsibility and and a lot of the
times as well there there is no excuse
sometimes just by labeling yourself to
do a certain thing you see it like you
said amazing quote like authenticity is
not just positive it’s also negative I
saw it on tumblr great job yeah right so
that’s so true as well and that’s why I
love what you do with with the shadow
work and everything as well because a
lot of us we always just focusing on the
positive someone thought something has
just happened to you and you’re like oh
just don’t worry about it it’s all part
of the divine order you’re like no it’s
not it’s definitely not something is
going wrong so I think it’s about
honesty and realizing there are certain
things that you don’t understand or
comprehend and that’s okay a lot of
people in this spiritual community and
people that Lodge we never like to say
we don’t know hmmm that’s scary
tormenting it’s tormenting we never like
say oh what happened well we always
think we have an answer which can also
be detrimental in the long run what do
you think about it what do I think about
people saying I don’t know it should
happen more often right but it’s yeah I
mean it’s it’s threatening when you’re
in a position of authority to basically
have to say that to people especially
when they’re all looking to you to lead
them right how do you deal with it I
usually say I don’t know but then I you
know steadily
or something why am I in this career
maybe I should quit I go into the I go
into the shadow by the way I’m the kind
of person I don’t like just rise above
it all I’m the kind of person that’s
like hmm you know so like I’ll go I’ll
go down into like I should quit my job I
don’t even know why I’m here why am i
telling other people have looked my life
like I can’t even lose my life right and
then it’s like it’s somewhere down there
there’s a kind of transformation that
happens and then a realization and I’ll
be like background cloud9 again is
inspiration and then the next thing
happens but and I’ve seen it like your
earlier videos a lot of it was more
metaphysical yes and those are the you
know they’re those are like kick-started
everything but then I saw you delve more
into human problems with that like a
conscious choice because you were you
were diving into crystals and I started
being interested okay right really when
I first started this career what it was
as I was surprised that people didn’t
know some of the things that I just knew
about the universe’s right it’s like
really like you don’t know this about
the universe at large for an
extrasensory it’s like I’m am I supposed
to a whole range of things that the
average person doesn’t see so I was like
oh this is great I can just tell them
about all these subjects that are second
nature to me but my own inspiration
started to be a bell like alright how do
you actually live here on planet Earth
right because like regardless of whether
you know all this information about
crystals or know all this information
about the fourth fifth and sixth
dimension like how do you actually
practically work with grief because
that’s the kind of stuff that traps us
yeah when I looked at the world it goes
as a teacher you’re basically looking at
the world you’re looking at needs and
when I want to teach I want to teach
what the need is and when I’m so what
I’m looking in the world looking what’s
causing war and causing struggle and
causing pain causing suffering here it’s
easy most of it’s the emotional system
our lack of understanding about it and
our inability to be able to self reflect
and so I was like okay that’s my area of
interest how do we you take a physical
human and get them to be introspective
enough that they can come out of these
triggers so as to not cause absolute
havoc to themselves and everyone around
them now that are like better question
how the hell do I do that because that’s
where like most of your inspirations to
this from your own life nobody wants to
admit this by the way but I’m just going
to
okay like most of the spiritual teachers
if not all of us draw our inspiration
from what we are struggling with the
most so if you have issues with
relationships it’s almost like wow let
me figure my way out of this and then
we’ll you when you kind of start the
exploration you come to insights and
then those insights then get shared
great so yeah I struggle with emotions
great right just be honest
well same as me and and I think so many
people do and I feel that’s why you’ve
got to always remind yourself how brave
you are for even doing this because what
you’re doing and what I’m doing we’re
actually talking about it a lot of
people who do art they make songs about
it when they put in a very kind of
subtle way but we actually sing it which
takes even more courage you see and and
they use it against you and then they
use it against you everything you say
people use it as ammo but that’s why
it’s so important just to once again
look for the proof look for and focus on
all the people that support you and
people like when we connect and we
create that’s the most important thing
because I always say if no one’s talking
about you well then you’re not doing
anything yeah you see because when
you’re just starting out on YouTube
nobody cares but as soon as tills been
doing this doing workshops in Australia
what people get nosy and they try to
look for something they can say about
you and there’s so much thing and a lot
of people they take time to make videos
and they take time to break you down and
sometimes they’ve got so much anger in
their voice that is captivating for
people to listen to because they put on
a show and I always say that it’s really
up to the listeners to decide if you
haven’t even got control over that we
have not know so a lot of the times you
just gotta let it float in the ocean and
see what happens you know brother
because when I wash it it applies to
discernment again when I had what when I
noticed a lot of the people who are not
trusting
themselves right it’s not about trust
yourself and if you trusted yourself
you’d love ralpher trust yourself and if
you trusted yourself you’d love to you
let’s Luda just like look trust yourself
and just look whatever the answer that
comes be the answer that’s right for you
um when people watch things like that
you know slander articles or hate videos
the general energy of those types of
videos which is hatred usually makes
people feel really uncomfortable inside
if it’s a slander article written about
a person they then associate the way
they feel reading it with the person
that they’re reading about yes and they
equate it to each other and so it’s like
oh wow that must be the essence of this
but as well a lot of the times they twin
now a lot of people don’t want to feel
that way see it doesn’t feel good when
you when you’re looking at and trying to
break someone down even when you’re
watching it like you can’t like watch it
without feeling negative so you have to
experience negative that’s why once
again it’s a conscious choice on has to
make and a lot of people who watch those
kind of videos on and on they own life
is spiraling completely so look I mean
it’s a good thing as it applies to
discernment it’s an interesting thing
when I’m looking at this thing or when
I’m watching this person how does it
make me feel it’s a good thing to ask
yourself because I mean that kind of is
your tell is just bringing me up or is
this bringing me down yeah but like but
then but then how do we how this is the
problem it’s like how do you do that but
then not going to bypassing cuz like
it’s real easy it’s not comfortable to
focus on the stuff you know that that
scares you yeah let’s just be honest
yeah so so what is the difference I mean
can you discern a difference between
this thing that is uncomfortable still
feels good for me to do because I can
feel that my growth pattern is there or
this thing that feels uncomfortable also
feels super negative
right right well I thought you have to
sit with it you see if there’s nothing
bad inherently about someone making a
slander video about someone it’s just
free speech and you should be able to
watch it but if you feel a certain way
once again it’s definitely rattled some
bones within yours definitely like oh my
gosh so it’s good they’ve given you
something to think about which you may
not have thought about before but I
always say like we said once you expose
your dirty laundry it shouldn’t be new
news should be old news oh you didn’t
know that oh what the hell are you
talking about you see we don’t have to
really defend ourselves which is where
we get all so caught up to get caught in
the trap someone says okay teal is like
this and then till says no I’m not then
once again you fall into they fall into
the trap and you’ve given that person
even more food yes so that’s what’s good
about becoming famous if you really
think we’re eating you like you know how
much we have to do that right brain like
I ran up against something like that
where it’s like a whole thing and I can
feel the defensive Ness and I’m like
that’s not true at all and then I’m like
okay what in me is getting triggered
right now like what is this a threat to
dropping into the feeling like where did
that original wound come from like
obviously there’s a none security to me
and it’s something that’s accurate by
the way the fact that like if there if
something really bothers you there’s
always some sort of insecurity yeah I
think the the it hurts the most I think
when is someone who is on the same level
as you oh who is doing the exact same
maybe it’s another author way something
like oh if I was to make a video about
you and say look I teal is crazy you
know and all of these things and you
know if you made one about me out there
my goodness I would die you know and and
that’s where I think it really cuts the
most maybe someone who’s just out of the
Woodworks you know I always look at
other people’s profiles of who is this
person
what are you doing so I think it’s as
well you also got a you know taking
discernment for that person say okay I’m
not gonna judge them because I can see
that they just want to make a name for
themselves which is the oldest trick in
the book talk about someone who’s
already out there and then oh my gosh
now they’ll focus on you but if it’s
someone who has nothing to lose and
they’re talking about you’re like huh
where did that come from and then I
think that’s the hardest part
but have you dealt with that yeah right
right right right
so how do you deal with it what’s helped
you really as a toolkit realizing that
my current pain is not current pain
right because I mean this is the thing
if your mind was everything on on this
earth then you could talk yourself out
of a problem immediately like if my mind
was the only thing that was dealing with
an issue I could instantly feel better
this is like the issue that we’ve got is
that even these somebody you know like
you were I who come in with all of this
information universal information
sometimes it is not enough to talk you
out of the emotional reactivity that you
feel yeah so when I when I started to
really dive into this I realized that my
current upsets are always linked to
something that I didn’t have the
capacity to deal with earlier so for
example you know the recently actually I
had a fellow spiritual teacher come out
violently against me and not only that
ask all of her followers in fact to put
a stop to me which presented some
serious issues for my career but I went
into it that like why is this hurting me
so bad thing and I was right back to my
childhood growing up in a town where I
was not the I did not my family was not
saying religion as everybody else’s at
town and so the adults in that
particular environment were always
focusing on me as if something was
really wrong they didn’t want me
influencing their kids and it was that
wound and so rather than making it about
that that woman in the current time
which it wasn’t
I made my healing be about this child my
childhood experience relative to the you
know the LDS community which it was the
one that done so much damage with me as
a kid and I’ve noticed that when I when
I healed that in her child aspect of me
the reactivity didn’t really it wasn’t
there anymore it was like I could look
at the situation and not really feel as
damaged by it right right what that’s so
important I feel what you’ve done is is
phenomenal because there are lots of
spiritual teachers who are on YouTube
but then they kind of they’ve got a
following but they’re not on the
internet and and you’re only internet
which is the hardest thing to do in the
world especially on YouTube where people
can hit this like comment and then hide
behind a blank avatar and everyday are
for the judge every video you put out
someone you know you’re in the gladiator
arena oh no sometimes I post things on
the way yeah yeah
they take word out of context yeah it is
hard and and that’s I think the hardest
part as well is when you’re kind of
reading the comments I don’t do it right
but you can’t avoid all of them you
can’t you constantly
you can’t avoid all of it but I feel
that’s as well when when you what I’ve
stepped into is what I call infinite
creation where I’m moving so fast that
really and truly it’s almost like I’m
having a little play around I’m just
playing with it so you’re having you get
any key calorie I’m not trying to say
okay this is for you because by tomorrow
we’ve already changed the whole scenery
around so oh you’re on what’s happened
last week you see so it’s almost like
never just giving something to somebody
on a plate and saying oh here it is all
packaged up like just make it whatever
you want
and that way you almost free yourself
from the pressure of trying to make
someone’s day and give them all of this
great information because a lot of the
times people get stuck and then they
equate you with the stuckness say til
but step 5 I try this and writing your
emails are you what the hell are you
talking about we see that right I only
ever get emails that Rick against me as
a person right right
like you wrote listen nobody actually
writes me articles or argue with my
material right because the again your
material is so sound and and I feel
because it’s so sound right bummed I’m
rather
that could be like oh we didn’t have
constructive conversations right break
it’s like teals Illuminati you’re an
Illuminati I hope you realize you have a
handler right right right
well well as well I feel because when I
read your articles and what your videos
it’s amazing but I feel your articles
have even more of teal inside them oh
yeah because I’m a writer
because you’re a writer you see and I
feel a lot of people on the videos have
to read your articles because I think
what your article is just like wow like
so many different sides of you and
sometimes you know you go into a casual
talking when you’re writing it’s just
like yeah homely teal you see and I feel
like the videos are amazing as well but
I think it’s so sound it’s so amazing
the information that a lot of people
they’re trying to look for something
just to say hey you know this copyright
and then it concerts you and then people
they go into the personal life oh
there’s enough there you see they do the
background checks who is this woman with
all of this great information and then
once again they they can’t separate the
two and then they said oh it’s rubbish
because they think people should
separate the two well I definitely feel
that definitely you see like
Krishnamurti said people they praised
the vows instead of seeing the water in
sight you know don’t don’t praise me I’m
just the vessel you do really think
within this first community this is an
entire debate whether whether the
information someone presents should be
separate from the person themselves or
whether they are an extension of the
very same thing so like when some
spiritual teachers say down in India is
having sex with little kids right like
all of their information should be
thrown out because it’s coming through a
vessel that’s poisoned or is it that
even if this person I mean getting
aggressive because I’m using an extreme
scenario because I feel like it’s
important so yes
or should this person who is having sex
with little kids in India be separated
out from the information that they
brought in right that’s that’s a great
question and I feel a lot of the time
yes and it’s always gonna be difficult I
always say live by your words that’s the
old man
easy if only it was that easy that would
be the whole world could be a magical
place for the unicorns around but a lot
of the times we have to realize I’ve
never seen a perfect person and because
of that people have to take words as
words and people as people that’s what I
wish people would actually try things on
for size if it resonates with them so
you listen to something you think might
want to try that try it and see if it
works for you like and that let that be
the tell ya as well I think the biggest
problem as well people sharing
information is that they want Authority
yeah with authority comes credibility
with credibility becomes reputation with
reputation comes pressure yeah so the
thing is if you want to be taken
seriously you’ve got to play the role
but that’s even so many people on
YouTube like the highest YouTube
PewDiePie who is just playing video
games you know really crazy so he can do
whatever he wants
nobody’s gonna bat an eyelid you see
because he’s just crazy to begin with so
I feel a lot of us who are sharing
information we’ve got to do something
and I can throw people off give people
their unexpected and then people would
they take the information then they’ll
say ok it’s fine you see but when we try
and just give perfect words and an image
then once again
people aren’t still satisfied so you
might as well just be wild anyway video
should be under my head
yes that’s a great stuff and you see
that’s always for me I realized that
everything that’s why I started to say
kind of get a hello there because I
realized ok if I say that that’s
automatically gonna free me from this
perfect being I’m already going in crazy
expect craziness from stuff and and
throughout the video but a lot of people
they stop when they’re talking very
serious really I start that way right
right well that’s I’m like she’s amazing
and and it’s like a lot of people might
see it in like well gosh it’s too
perfect you see Banksy and all of these
artists they they always create art
which is sometimes very
I never figured crossing over to the
video format like to tell you the honest
truth up so it’s interesting and what’s
what happening today we’re when you and
I are talking cuz it’s like I have the
blog is where I do that and then the
videos were is sort of like my crafted
crafted masterpiece basically so it’s
like I never really considered crossing
over to the video for who knows what
today’s gonna do I don’t think I got a
real handle on my humor yet yeah well a
lot of the times I see you laughing in
videos and it’s I saw you did what with
Blake and it’s amazing because where you
were laughing at know the old video but
you were laughing doing sign at the end
which feels completely different and
it’s always like okay whatever and I
feel that kind of relaxation that you
experience also goes through the
audience even more and with relaxation
there’s always a free pass like oh
whatever you see and a lot of us we
always caught up with people trying to
get the message that it becomes
sometimes quite stiff and therefore
people receive it stiff and therefore
their judgments are stiff that’s an
interesting perspective on how the law
of attraction applies to receiving
information right yeah because a lot of
the times it’s like when you go in as an
underdog
you’ll always be fine when you go in as
someone who knows it all then you
already created criticism yes he’s a
quick right right oh yeah don’t you
think it’s possible that going in always
is the underdog
a shadow aspect too if someone that’s
not willing to take the pressure
definitely definitely can always happen
you see we can’t really please everyone
that’s one of the four agreements it’s
never personal and and that’s the
biggest thing but at the same time it
does feel personal I always go on
people’s level of consciousness and
those as well what they’re doing and if
a lot of people they’re just new to this
journey I expect a lot of Chris’s
criticism a lot of the times you
probably receive emails oh my gosh – I
really love you sorry first I was kind
of doubting you but now so you always
get emails like that do you yeah okay
great right people who have turned
around first they were really against
you now they’ve taken time so a lot of
times we’re in with doing this every day
a lot of people are living a busy
lifestyle we all are but a lot of people
are going to work and in a job they
don’t like and then come home and then
you’re saying these things yeah till
eventually it kicks home you know it
comes home to them and they’re like wow
yeah I forget a lot of times by the way
the people have like normal lives yeah
we’re doing this okay all day all day
and a lot of us we forget a lot of
people at just they’re touching the
water they’re not going inside and when
you go inside the ocean is totally
different you must in the salt water
you’re moving around a lot of people
they’re afraid to swim so they’re gonna
judge the ocean of course yes yeah we’ll
all be diving deep and having fun thank
you I will wait I love you I love
everything you’re doing and really it’s
all about unity right now that’s the biggest thing yes
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