Mark Cuban: Best Interview UNCENSORED

while mark first of all thank you so
much for taking the time man to come to
your American Airlines Center you know
most people you think this is a bar you
talk to most people this would look like
a bar but this happens to be the coolest
office in the world this is your office
in the center right this is where I go
to get away it’s my office my mancave my
bar when I need it
preferably to celebrate rather than
drown my sorrows but um yeah this is
where I get away well so far it’s been a
pretty good start for you guys eight and
four yeah you know we’ve got to play a
lot better but we’ll see what happens I
feel good about how the players are
playing I send you cyber dust you have
they saying about how I felt on yep
d will cuz a lot of people thought he
was but he’s actually very well
yeah and he’s still not 100% healthy so
you know he gets more comfortable and
gets a little bit feeling a little bit
better
he’s gonna get better I feel that as
well he had at one point he was one Paul
was two if you remember that yes I yep
it’s not a regular guy so if he’s got
the fire again he could do some stuff
yeah I think you know he’s just feeling
his way a little bit and once he gets
that confidence up a little bit more he
shows those flashes of brilliance and I
think I feel the synergy when I see it
so there’s some synergy with the team so
so let’s get right into it at the time
that we have here together
mark biggest difference between being a
millionaire and a billionaire what would
you say the difference like the
difference between having a hundred
dollars and a thousand dollars or a
dollar you know we’re a penny and a
thousand dollars it’s no difference I
would not no no it’s huge difference I
mean I’ve been I’ve been blessed I mean
I made a lot of money at a relatively
young age um and was a millionaire a few
times over but just in terms of what you
can do and the opportunities that buys
there’s no comparison at the billionaire
mom yeah yeah just as crazy now how do
you stay so so so humble I mean you got
to be the coolest cat in entrepreneurs
everybody people who follow you you got
a lot of opinions you know about other
things you just don’t know it’s not
factory level I’m sure behind closed
doors I see your interview sometimes you
know you don’t know
back but still the level of the one
thing that always impressed me with you
is because sometimes you know how guys
get to a higher level they have so many
people that hey Martina give me money
can you give me money can do this you
still are very accessible how do you
balance that accessibility and still
running all the businesses you run what
people you know that I’m close to I know
what’s going on and so it’s it’s really
easy you know and if I don’t know you
you know reach out to me on cyberdust
and I’ve got 30 seconds to decide
whether or not I want to know you you
know I don’t do a lot of meetings I
don’t do a lot of phone calls I don’t do
a lot of sit downs I do almost
everything through cyberdust or email
and that makes me a lot more efficient
and gives me a lot more time terms of
people wanting things you know it’s the
best problem in the world to have and so
I try to be nice I try to be considerate
um but you know people people know me
know what’s important to me and what’s
not and either you fit in that or you
don’t that’s good to know
you know I finish your book and I watch
a lot of second or three pages of it the
book is but you know what the one part
in your book with the edge that I think
every entrepreneur needs to real it’s
true literally I think every
entrepreneur even if it’s just the edge
part well that’s why I made it so short
and sweet right I want people to see
stories I wanted people to see you know
that if I can do what they can do it on
and I don’t want to get them all bogged
down and you know this little story or
that little story and try to you know
try to sound smart or be smart I figured
you know the things that have worked for
me and the things that I use to motivate
myself if I keep it short and sweet
people would actually read it and you
know get comments all the time it’s the
first book I’ve read in years and I read
it all in one sitting and that was my
goal and it gets a lot done into one
city yeah and it’s something I guess a
lot than in one student okay for four
bucks you can afford it yeah absolutely
and so if you haven’t read about if you
watch it you got to get the books one of
the action items at the end mark so
question I read the story you know the
whole $7,500 ring the eighty-three
thousand eighty five thousand the whole
day you know the Motley eighteen year
old and then the sixteen year old all
that stuff that yeah but I’m curious if
if you and I were buddies in high school
so we’re 14 years old 15 years old and
we know each other uh-huh would I bet on
you being who you are today a chance
really no chance tell me why I mean I
had my I had my good friends and you
know we we hung out and I was a hustler
there’s there’s no question I was a
hustler even in high school oh yeah and
into business in a big way um but I
don’t I don’t think people saw to me it
wasn’t like people look to me at all
he’s he’s destined to succeed I’ll show
you a picture of me in high school when
we leave I’m not gonna let you take a
picture of it all and you’ll see why
really now you got everybody curious you
want on whether you could describe it
but yeah I’ll show it to you but yeah
I’m not gonna let you put on camera no
worry will not is so-so in high school
you would have fungi were you were you
were you always the guy that made people
laugh with your college I was always
competitive right I was into sports not
I wasn’t great at it I was just decent
um wasn’t technology guy I mean I I was
into learning I was I was I was a
business guy I was always the guy
reading about business all the time
reading business books all the time you
know going to Junior Achievement I was a
junior achievement geek why do why were
you reading business books because I
want that’s what I knew I mean I was
wired that always you know I started my
first business when I was 12 I was
buying and selling baseball cards buying
and selling stamps anything I could do
to make money I was hustling and trying
to do so I was into business but I not
so much work it was all my friends were
into it with me so they wouldn’t know
hey spell cards yeah baseball cards you
name it I mean I grew up in Pittsburgh
and so I would probably even less than
12 years old I would excuse me go up by
a bunch of baseball cards that I
collected and I would package I would
say okay you’re guaranteed to have a
Pittsburgh pirate in this package and I
would charge three times as much and I’d
set up on this park bench down in the
park down it’s got concert where I grew
up and I’d have these little sails and
it was great I made money you know I
mean it was you know and I learned as
much about business when I was nine ten
and twelve as I learned any other time
I’m obsessed with baseball cards these
are stories there is it anything no I
wish I feel I don’t know no I wish I
still had aa but they’re all long gone I
gave it to my brother who knows whatever
something about cards man I don’t know
what it is you explained it to somebody
they think you’re not so bad that was
all you learned yeah back then that’s
how you know you had your favorite
players and you know you didn’t see they
weren’t on TV every day you
read about him in the newspaper there
was no internet and so baseball cards
were a way to connect you know I had my
Willie Stargell I have my Roberto
Clemente cards you’re not talking about
you’d lay back when yeah there was no
picket back then yeah so um Beck was
just getting started right so gonna you
know I don’t look at it more I looked at
it just hey this is the home affinity it
wasn’t like okay these were going to be
valuable
at some point um so yeah but it was just
you know it was just a means yeah now
you have the Honus Wagner card guy I
could you know I’m not a lot yeah that’d
be a cool card yeah but I’ve just I mean
just look look around you right I mean I
got stuff I’m just not into like I’m not
a big collector type guys well I got
your gift man I’m like the creatine I
wanted to get you something and what can
I get this guy he peep you may have it
but I hope you don’t have my life but I
hope I’m not problem so so let’s get
into entrepreneurship a little but we
already have but I you know going into
it now to focus on a little bit what
would you say out of all the reasons in
the world not regular but you have the
10 you know all these keys to success
etcetera what would you say is the
number one reason why people fail not
necessarily why they make the complete
opposite right lack of brains lack of
effort lack of brains lack of effort
yeah they just don’t do the work they
don’t learn you know when you walk in
the room but when you start a business
and you start to talk about somebody
you’re never in a vacuum with no
competition you know unless you’re just
extremely lucky and if there’s going to
be competition that means somebody else
knows your business as well as you do
when you get started and if you walk
into a competitive environment and they
still know more about the business than
you do and more about your customers
you’re going to lose and but most people
don’t consider that they don’t do the
work they don’t learn more about their
industry they don’t know even about
their business I mean and so you’ve got
to put in the effort to know more about
your industry than anybody else and
that’s that’s the brains part and that’s
the effort part as well
because look if you’re competing with me
you you better know what you’re doing
otherwise I’m gonna kick your ass you
know and you’re not going to outwork me
and so you know the combination is
usually what kills businesses early on
more than anything
do you think so now there’s a part that
people say you know mark made it because
mark is a special again he became an
entrepreneur you know this guy made it
all these guys made it because they have
this special gene or whatever it is
do you think there’s a proven formula
that if a brand rocky guy he’s got a lot
of ambitious gun out of this rap but not
a lot of knowledge and how to do you
think if he follows a formula he’s
guaranteed to make it as a porno okay so
you don’t believe there’s a guarantee to
make it no because who knows you’re
going to be competing with so if you put
two people both following the same
formula both in the same industry right
which one wins
you know maybe they both can win and
both be successful but you know so I
don’t I don’t think there’s a DeVault
default template for success but I think
there’s things that you can do to put
yourself in the best position to succeed
you know so I talked about stuff in the
book you know I talked about the one
thing in business you can control his
effort you know um going out there and
sales curing all you know so I think you
know and I agree with your point that
there are things that if you do them you
put yourself in the best position to
succeed but you know if you just walk
into a buzz you know a buzz saw somebody
else is doing them a little bit better
you know what happens now are you saying
to to compete on your level there’s no
we’re just look we’re just any level
right just actually even if you put a
formula for me I followed it will I
eventually be able to make a quarter
million a year if I follow the plan day
but I’m not talking about a hundred
million here we gonna pick where – right
right so I was mystery wise right yeah I
was at a business plan competition and
they were talking about making big money
reselling travel plans and making $3 in
affiliate commissions right it’s just
not going to happen you have to smart
you have to be smart you can pick the
wrong things and you know you’re talking
to you know alluded to earlier about
entrepreneurs being born or built you
know and I think there I knew I was
wired to be excited about business how
or why I don’t know but you know and
there’s certain guys they have the
genetics to jump out of the gym right
certain guys you know that you know when
they golf they have the muscle memory
and the discipline you know dirt the
visca may not be the most talented guy
in the NBA but his discipline and his
focus to do what’s necessary to be
successful he’s willing to do and
combine it with being seven feet tall
and being skilled you know it makes him
an amazing basketball player so it’s
understanding what your skillset is
finding the right place to use those
skills and then going for it you know
will that make you 250 grand
if you pick the right industry but
whatever industry you pick if you
outwork everybody if you try to be a
little smarter than everybody if you try
to be a better salesperson and everybody
if you try to be better prepared than
everybody you’ve got your best chance
because if you don’t do it and somebody
else does you know I have the same work
like someone’s trying to take it all
away from you you know work you actually
work like no one’s spending 24 hours
working 24 hours to take it all away
from you and that’s kind of the way I
look at it when you were younger did you
have was your father into business was
your mother was an uncle somebody that
did well in business that you admire
with or somebody you read about they
said I like Rockefeller I like Carnegie
nothing nothing so it’s just purely you
know yes my dad I think you know my dad
did upholstery on cars
my mom did whatever odd jobs um but my
dad was always like if you want
something you have to earn it and to his
credit he never said no you can’t do
that so whether it was selling garbage
bags baseball cards stamps whatever it
was he never held me back and so I think
that was as important as anything and
you know sometimes being young and
trying things you’re so naive and you
don’t know any better
all you do is learn and if you fail it
doesn’t matter and so whether I was 9 10
12 1621 the failures were irrelevant and
you know whether you’re you know nine
twelve sixteen twenty one twenty two
twenty four you know I’m sleeping on the
couch you know I have a car with a hole
in the floorboard you know I’m living
like a bum and like a student and so
what did I have to lose and so I think
that influenced me as much as anything
so it you know my dad was like go for it
you know don’t why not what do you got
to lose you know you have to sleep on a
different couch so I think that that was
motivation as much said you had the
encouragement from the other support go
do it so do you think like let’s just if
we put 10 guys here you interview them
okay
you could within a 5 10 minute minute
interview say this to is not going to
make it as an entrepreneur could you
pretty much know that you know I’m not
very good at interviewing it the issue
is my interview skills more than free
column horrible Shark Tank interview
well yeah it is but I get to do due
diligence after the fact right so I get
my hunches but I get your check yeah I
mean I can I can typically tell right I
can tell um but by
their passion I can tell by their focus
I can tell by their preparation you know
there’s a whole realm of things than any
business here you know here’s here’s the
business you’re in and here’s a thousand
things that influence whether or not
you’re going to be successful and really
to me by you know through my experience
and businesses I can put myself in his
position and say okay here are nine
hundred of the thousand things he has to
be aware of and then go through and ask
and by how many of those are her issues
they’ve been able to address already
that kind of gives me a sense of how
hard they’re willing to work you know
and I can tell by the questions they ask
me so all I have to do is say okay what
do you want to know and you know when
they start saying what should I do
they ask you yeah well yeah and that’s
fine right and I want them to ask
questions but you know people like to
say you know the only stupid questions
are the one you don’t ones you don’t ask
and that’s not right right because the
questions you ask tell everybody
tell me tell whoever more about you than
anything else you do because in
particular tells me about your
preparation if you ask me questions
about just basic things that you should
have known and you should have down to a
science
that’s going to disqualify you almost
more than anything I’ve read this cyber
does you send out by the way but listen
I got to get the questions right with
you that’s I read it I said okay I’ll
take that as a challenge that’s our bird
esta plan yeah like when I have a
thought I was great yeah so that was
phenomenal what the question you asked
are critical I agreed its complete
opposite on the way you you know the
traditional way of thinking I always ask
the question so mark you’re now you know
whatever your net worth is billions of
dollars you own a sports team you have
businesses you’re in Shark Tank you’re
on TV shows everybody wants your time
how hard is it for you now this is the
thing I think about because for my side
run a business it’s hard for me to make
friends now and let people in my circle
but I’m not at your level how is it when
a person like you is it still easy to
make friends now I’m not out there you
know at this world I’m not out there
looking me you know I don’t need any new
writing buddies I mean my high school
buddies are still my friends my college
buddies got rugby buddies um the guys I
when I first came to Dallas that were my
friends then are my friends now my you
know I’ve got three kids you know so
it’s more you know my family just takes
up so much my time along with business
so I’m not you know
and even back in the day when I was
single I was still successful I could
tell the gold diggers from the the real
friends I mean you know it was pretty
easy got it
did association play a big role with you
or not really yeah never for you yeah as
you were so determined it didn’t matter
nobody could influence you influence
other B yeah I just I just want to do my
thing made sense makes sense a couple
words I’ll just put out that I want to
see what you think about it because I
watch you and I watch some of these
other guys and I see a sense of paranoia
and I don’t know if you read the book
the only the paranoid survive a novella
from 1020 a great book that was written
do you think there needs to be a healthy
level of peril absolutely Denise – oh
yeah I mean I I always say you know for
every one of my businesses I said what
would I do to kick my own ass you write
so whatever business you have there’s
somebody trying to put you out of
business or somebody trying to to take a
bite out of your business and it’s
better for you to figure out how they’re
going to do it rather than they do it um
and so yeah that’s being paranoid and so
you have to be paranoid you have to
anticipate other people’s next moved and
moves and you can’t ever you know
downplay the competition you know I was
telling I was at a business plan
competition this morning for at a
college and they were kind of being
dismissive of the competition and so you
can’t ever do that you know they’re out
there trying to take you down and
they’re not just going to sit still and
if you’re good really really good you’re
going to inspire them to work even
harder faster better and so you have to
be you know very self aware of what
you’re good at and what other people are
good at and you know a healthy dose of
paranoia makes a bit there at me is very
helpful ooh
so that that’s interesting you say that
so sometimes you know you’ll be a little
bit too paranoid you know you’re being
too concerned about this to concern
about that the other question for you
would be mark you don’t run one company
you run many companies you’re doing
deals all the time and there is this
notion that you hear multitasking right
on the you can multitask you can do this
so your brain if I were to take a
hundred percent okay ten percent here
seven percent your six percent here how
do you process all of it here in your
mind with the difference especially
something I’m really good at right um
you know I just I process things very
quickly and that’s always been my
strength
I can identify what’s going on typically
faster than anybody and and crying right
through it and plus you know I because I
force everybody to email or cyberdust
it’s all coming from one flow right it’s
all one funnel and so I’m not bouncing
from meeting to meeting thinking okay
what do we say in that meeting we’re
having to take notes and then we’re
having somebody take notes you know it’s
like it’s already in writing it’s in an
email and if it’s in cyberdust is like
having a face-to-face and when I see it
I respond to it immediately kind of
severed has forced me to respond to it
immediately
um and so that that allows me to keep
things organized and and stay on top of
things and you know so you know anything
that’s unread that’s my to-do list and
that’s all I stay on top of it got it
I’ve become a fanatic cyberdust there’s
an every other hour I’m chicken sign
when you told me you know go check
outside with us and then from there
right we got everybody on the company
now everyone out here the only way going
to get to see this first you got it and
I would like a link I will do what I
mentions to get everybody closer but I
love the product and we’ll get to that
because I want to explain how I see side
with us you’re not as a CEO as a
customer because I want people to see
how I see it as a customer let’s talk
about speed when people ask me and say
hey you know how do I get speed going I
want to see your perspective on this
because cyber does has a tipping point
you know you got Twitter has a tipping
point I face but everything is about the
tipping point in your mind how does one
entrepreneur increase the speed and
areas that they can increase there are
certain things you can’t compete in one
way speed of growing your business all
right
so how fast can I grow yeah I mean it
just depends you’ve got to know your own
skill set right and you’ve got to know
how that fits within your company’s
lifecycle um you know some companies are
slow slow grind and you just have to
understand that and you’ve just got to
bide your time and still until it starts
to click and then grow with it quickly
you know if you’re trying to release a
product that needs to be ubiquitous
you’ve got to go as fast as you can and
and then you know release a product yeah
along yeah and and you know there’s a
lot of people will say you know
perfection is the enemy of profitability
right and that doesn’t mean you have to
wait to us a perfect product
you know Cyprus is perfect and we still
haven’t it’s been almost 2 years we
still haven’t advertised it yet because
we know it’s not ready yet
you know and so it’s been a slow growth
grind because that’s we wanted we want
feedback you know we want to keep on
learning we’re evolving um but it really
just depends on what the product is that
you know a barbershop right is in an app
is it um a service is it a product but
you know the the key is looking for the
low-hanging fruit what are the app what
are what customers are willing to write
you a check or commit to it you know so
that they’re willing to integrate it
into their daily lives or integrated
into their daily business and so getting
a commitment either through time or
revenue is typically what I look for and
so if I can get a commitment then I’m
going to be able to learn I’m going to
see how they use it to they sustained
usage and then once I get the next one
you know hopefully it came a little bit
faster than the first one that I can ask
for referrals and then the next one then
the next one and I just try to ramp it
up you know when I bought the Mavs we
had no season ticket-holder base and so
literally it was a matter of just
putting a list of former season ticket
holders and a white pages back then you
know on my desk next to my phone and
making phone calls you yeah me yeah
because if I’m not gonna do an OP like
somebody else to do it right so just get
on the phone hey this mark you know I’m
the new owner of the Dallas Mavericks
we’ve you know I’d like to invite you
back or again it’s not though this is my
business you we can’t get regular sales
gets or something make those calls wants
to get to a quarter you you’re the guy
that’s a billion you making them but
that’s all you know that’s fine and good
right because everybody’s got their own
goals right and but still I I don’t want
anybody at the Mavs to be able say well
he’s not willing to do the work right
there’s you know if I walk around I’m
picking up all the papers I’m not saying
go get that picked up I’m like okay
that’s trash I’m picking it up um so but
in terms of speed of growth it’s really
you got to get that first customer first
and then when you get that first what
did you learn reiterate get that next
customer and then hopefully as you learn
more and more through the process than
the next one the next one the next one
becomes come by and faster you know it’s
interesting when we walked in here and I
appreciate that on the speeds and when
we walk
typically when I want to know how does
to work for somebody you gotta ask
people around them but you cannot
supersizer to work for you grant we get
it right answer so as a security guy
that this gets it oh you know mark
country’s gonna say hi to everybody he’s
gonna do this he’s gonna do that and
they were all like fans they love work
yes cuz we have cameras and microphones
that’s it thank you oh that’s classic
that’s classic okay let’s transition to
a different subject let me see my time
okay let’s transition to a different
subject with college you went to IU yep
right now you got a lot of people that
say forget about school you know you’re
out of school they’re idiots oh you
think they’re River idiot tell me what
um if you’re gonna have and run a
business if you don’t understand
accounting you’re already behind the
eight ball can’t you hire a guy that’s
the note said they still have to
communicate to you right I mean there’s
people that don’t understand the concept
of you know the difference between
profits and cash you know oh your
accountant might tell you you’re
profitable but your cash is going down
you know not understanding the breakdown
and and when you don’t you thing you
need college to learn that yeah I think
you do right because it may not for some
people look if you’re so self-motivated
that you can take an online course in
accounting and teach yourself everything
you’re way ahead of the game in many
ways but most people aren’t and I’m not
saying you have to go to Indiana
I’m not saying going an expensive school
I don’t care if you go to Community
College and take accounting and 99 bucks
for the class just you know spending the
money forces you to be more obligated to
do it but accounting finance lesser
extent marketing sales of the school
offers that these are although that’s
the language of business and so while
it’s possible to teach yourself these
things and while it’s possible to hire
them when you’re starting your own
company you don’t want to have to spend
money hiring an accountant right you’re
already probably going to have to hire a
lawyer to set up your your well let me
take that if you’ve gone through all
these classes if I don’t have to hire a
lawyer to incorporate right probably
figure out yourself and so your cost of
opening up a business drops but even
more important and all that that’s
that’s the block unit tackling that’s
the language of business you know the
thing I learned at Indiana that was more
important than anything else I learned
how to learn
and learning became far more important
to me because the one certainty in
business is that it’s always going to be
changing the if you’re not always
learning to this minute if I’m not
continuously learning if I’m not just
absorbing as much as I can absorb
someone else is going to kick my ass
right so you talked about paranoia
the greatest source of your paranoia
should be knowledge if someone else
knows more than you do and if you’re not
learning if you don’t know the look if
you don’t know how to learn if you don’t
have a thirst for learning and acquiring
information you’re your Sol do I need to
go to school to have that though so
maybe it may be let me restate the
question here would be the question the
question will be do I need to get a
bachelor’s degree so what you just know
obviously necessarily you have to have
the degree okay
Ryan Shelton bragger you have to have
the knowledge holy I totally agree with
that fair enough okay let’s so let’s
skip that part and go into a little bit
of politics
uh-huh and you know our conversations
start I said mark you know I said man
you gotta get up there because you got
such a big fan base people want to hear
your opinions about politics you may
want to run for president one day and we
were going back with the whore thing and
I said mint people got to know who is
what is Mark thinking about because a
lot of times CEOs don’t want to touch
Paulette right they don’t want to touch
it at all for whatever reason if you
were the president today Mark Cuban is
the president
February 1st 2016 what are three things
you’re attacking um income inequality
right um improving the ability for
companies to raise capital through IPOs
I think that’ll have a big impact on the
market you touch that on ink you see
that on the ink as well so let’s talk
about income inequality relman so how do
you do that so right now let’s just say
you’re making um thirty five thousand
dollars a year and you’re clearing
fifteen hundred bucks a month after tap
John and you live like a student I don’t
care if you have thirty forty fifty well
sure you’re living like a student and
you’re able to save five hundred bucks a
month okay where you sleep and you’re
staying at home you’re living at home
right with your Haiti year old parents
you’re 50 years old um there’s a lot of
that right now yeah unfortunately and so
you’re saving six grand a month right
well right now with interest rates near
zero surrounding you
or six grand a year and um Eclair um so
you’re saving six grand a year five
hundred bucks a month which is amazing
that’s what every Republican wants you
to do that’s what every Democrat wants
you to do try to control your own
destiny now you put it in the bank or do
you put it in stocks no one trusts a
stock market no one really knows what
they’re doing
right no you put it in to a fund but the
problem is if you put into a fund
because you’re not making a lot of money
if the dishwasher breaks right you get
penalized for taking and show that money
out so we’re in a situation right now
where it’s if you put that money into
the bank which is really only the safe
way you know six thousand a year and a
year you’ll have six thousand and sixty
dollars god sure you’re just not ever
going to be bad if that right and the
point being is you’re never going to
improve your place in life right where
the 1% really the reason income has
become so unequal is I can hire anybody
I want to help me pick the best
investments and I do most of it myself
but I’m decent at it right so I can put
my money in stocks I could put my and
hedge against the risk I can put my
money in whatever but I’m liquid so I
don’t have to worry about the dishwasher
breaking guy if you have six thousand
dollars how are you going to keep up
right how are you going to improve your
position in life even if you spent
twenty years saving six thousand dollars
a year that’s $120,000 but you’ve earned
$1,500 in interest that whole time right
and while 120 thousand is good you’re
not going to be able to live off of that
when you hit 65 or 70 years old right
not at all so part of the challenge is
how do you allow people to accumulate
capital okay without the risk of waking
up one day and not being able to get the
money out for their dishwasher or their
car or paying for their kids school
right we’re not um we’re finding that
the stock market is way down and they’re
basically wiped out and so to me that’s
the first thing to address and so I
think you know one way is the Federal
Reserve I don’t think you messed with
the Federal Reserve but I think you come
up with savings certificates savings
bonds that literally pay a little bit
more that allow people to save for their
future because I think that helps people
protect their future that allows people
to build more of an asset base and that
takes them you know gives them a comfort
level that they’re going to be able to
survive is
as they age and take care of their
expenses and maybe then maybe they can
buy a house you save up enough money
earn enough and an interest or whatever
it may be to buy a house but you just
you know it’s not so much pulling the
top down as in bringing the bottom up
and then I would also increase the
minimum wage and the way I would there’s
a couple different ways to look at it
but in my mind like this past December
we gave everybody here a raise to a
minimum of $10 an hour and the reason I
did it is I found out there were people
that work for me that we’re on
government assistance in one way or
another you know might be a program but
I hate the idea that I’m subsidizing
somebody you know the fact that I’m not
paying enough everybody’s taxes is
subsidizing this person’s life you know
you think about that and so you get a
lot of business owners saying oh you
can’t raise the minimum wage well all of
us pay for the fact that you’re not
paying that person enough and will it
change the competitive balance well if
everybody’s having to pay more then the
competitive balance still say somewhat
competive will the markets change some
but it’s not so much that I think
raising the minimum wage is a great idea
but what I don’t like is the fact that
we are subsidizing low wages for certain
for businesses and so I think you know
maybe there’s a better way than minimum
wage I’m just talking off the top show
ahead show of course but the bottom line
is that people who work for me shouldn’t
have to use government services funded
by everybody and until we can get people
off of that incoming inequality interest
is just going to be kind of convoluted
your approach will be to government
doing something about it well it’s not
so much the government doing something
about I want to get people off of
government assistance got it right so
how about this part you know there used
to be time when the whole Ford Motor
Company came out with you know working
nine to five and when they came out with
this after the Great Depression you know
that’s right at night nine to five was
only a 90 year olds right I know system
right so when they came out with that
you and I said okay I’ll give you thirty
years of my life and I’m for it you know
we said hey but what are you going to
give me if I give you thirty years of my
life so they said we’ll give you a
pension right in 1984 we have 130
something something pension plans
thousand one hundred thirty some
thousand pension today we have 24 right
I think we’ve gone away from that
because
it sounds like from what your concern is
on income inequality is the first point
you made is $500 a month times 12 months
$6,000 so long term 20 or son or $20,000
which means they may not have long term
money for retirement but if we go away
from the pension plan so do the problem
we go right away to the poet and advise
companies well the problem with pensions
is the uncertainty of business right so
what’s happening with pensions now sure
they’ve got to grow them just because to
support the amount of money required for
the employees they can’t they can’t find
that return right so if if I either got
it if everybody’s Arne only earning 1%
and your pension matches your salary
okay just for the and you’re making
$36,000 a year I’ve got to find a way as
a business owner to fund thirty six
thousand dollars per year for you know
so that you’re making 20 or 720 is
writing write a math for that 65 to 85
yeah so but but if you’re only earning
1% the rule of 72 says it takes three
years right so I’ve got a you know you
don’t get 70 G here so I’ve got a fun
three-quarters of it or whatever
so what would it be with the solution
will be you know we can move away from
this top it would it be given an
incentive for companies who do give
pension plans up to this I just don’t I
don’t think companies mathematically
yeah I do yeah I don’t think it works
simply because there’s too much
uncertainty on yarny they’re not big
thing of it the key of it is what what
elements of certainty do you put on
businesses right a pension is a certain
amount that you have to pay but you’re
it’s uncertain how much you’re going to
earn you know if whether it’s minimum
wage or some other way of doing it or
you know working so that whatever it is
right so that you don’t need government
assistance then that’s just part of your
current business you know and so it’s
really I guess it’s more about coming to
you or I as a business owner and said
okay if you’re making a million dollars
a year would you be okay with making
seven hundred fifty thousand dollars a
year and you tack on another 250 on it
well know whatever there’s no tax no tax
no nut text away they say to you why
don’t you pay your guys more yeah that’s
what you show a guilt type thing right
you know and so you know I’ve said I
would agree a government government I
know you like a cross a type of yeah you
just go out there and do this like how
much more what did you do my drive yeah
how much more money I’m not
look I’ve literally wrists see that
happening yeah I’ve literally written
checks to the Dallas City Treasury you
know when the Mavs won a championship I
paid for the parade when we needed extra
police overtime I wrote the check for it
because it’s not fair to ask all the
citizens of Dallas to pay the taxes for
something that benefits me like that
would you consider yourself a capitalist
I’m sold on your full on capital oh yeah
but see what’s changed with capitalism
it I mean I’m a hardcore we’re not a
full-on capitalism you know that we’re
not that what we evolved right and so
you know 90 years ago the Henry Ford
days sure if you didn’t have a job and
you couldn’t afford it you found
somebody’s floor to sleep on and you
went with your family or whatever you
know um and if it was 12 to a room
that’s the way it was and then over time
we started having you know you know with
with FDR we started having you know
basic services that we would provide for
you and then over time with LBJ there
was more services right and welfare
services and now you know we’re not
gonna let you drop dead in the streets
we want you know you anybody can walk
into a hospital and or now we want you
to have these about them I think it’s
right I think it’s you think it is right
look I’m so one would call you a
Democrat and no no hell no no no look
there’s there’s different things for
different reasons right if we as a
society decide that we don’t want people
dropping dead in the streets or you know
just dying at home then there’s a cost
to that and we can’t expect insurance
companies and hospitals just to pick up
that cost for decisions we make as a
society just like we want TSA at the
airport just like we want you know
homeland security you know should we say
look don’t pay for it we’ll just all get
blown up right there’s certain minimum
services that we’ve all defined that’s
evolved capitalism and we all have to
pay for that but at the same time that
doesn’t destroy the root of capitalism
and who we are and and the incentive
right it just means that we’re going to
take a chunk off the top now on the flip
side of that how we do that how you pay
for it that’s a different beast is the
government too big yes
is the government inefficient yes if for
every you know I’d rather the government
have one half the employees and just
write checks to people you know the old
helicopter dropped of cash you know just
drop cash on the people because they’re
just going to spend it
anyway these are people who can’t afford
to say economy yeah and so I’d rather
you know you talk about what would you
do as a president probably the third
thing I would take all these services we
have and cut I would say to everybody
okay here’s two years three years
severance and then I’m going to take 75%
of what’s left and just consolidate it
all together and write everybody who
qualifies a cheque right and then you
know to go to you know you have a lot of
votes yeah but you use that money or but
I get crushed by all the union’s right
because they’re you and I say yeah this
would be anti control votes now yeah
exactly so it’d be very anti-union and
we you know in somewhat somewhat
socialist and you can argue about
creating distance and you’d have to work
those things but the one certainty is
government’s to big government is
inefficient and there’s way to cut ways
to cut back on the amount of money you
spend so what does it take to pay for
all the services we as a country feel
are legit for our citizens whether it’s
health care security whatever it may be
and what’s the best way to do that and I
literally rather than saying here’s 30
programs you have to sign up for and
here’s all the overhead associated with
managing those services and monitoring
and checking for fraud
here’s a check here’s your $800 a month
you know in addition to Social Security
no accountability no account of no
accountable right because now because
you can’t get it anywhere else right now
this is going to take care of your life
if you don’t do it they’re sorry
right we’ve eliminated the excuse there
is a limit to where listen if you do
nothing with this there’s nothing else
we can do right at that point is they
sense yeah at that point you know your
family’s also getting paid right you’re
on your own right but trying to say okay
you’ve got to do this program this
program this program this program is
just so saturated with overhead it
doesn’t work that is such an interesting
topic that’s all the time
yeah I felt so would you be comfortable
with a capitalist like Donald Trump
being our president um the capitalist
side yeah I don’t have a problem with in
I like Donald and he’s smart
I just what’s concerning is the way all
the candidates Republican or Democrat
are trolling for votes I mean they’re
just pandering you what do you what do
you want me to say I’ll say it in order
to get your vote he’s sane would oh hell
you
you think he’s saying whatever people
want him to say pretty much yeah Wow
within the realm of what gets votes
right so within the realm of what gets
most right so yeah it’s not just what do
you want me to say right so I need I
need to appeal to ultra-conservatives in
order to get elected in a primary and so
if I’m appealing to ultra-conservatives
what to ultra-conservatives want you
know we started with immigration that
fit now you know everything he says and
does it’s okay
what’s the playbook for getting voters
for the primary now do I think once he’s
elected president he’ll follow through
for all those with all those things no
because most of them won’t work and he’s
and do I think he’s smart enough to
figure that out
and then just do the right thing after
he’s elected yes so you know with like a
lot of candidates and politicians you
vote for not what they say but knowing
that 99% of they say won’t come true
what they’ll do the right question who’s
gonna follow through with a lot cuz when
they know that what you already know
he’s not gonna get a wall built right
he’s not going to get all these things
done it’s just not going to happen and
there’s no money to do it so slice those
off and what will happen when you just
put the guy in the office so what do you
think that the American people should
ask about Trump as a president there’s
one question what would it be
is it the same thing you’re saying that
do you really think he’s going to
deliver on all this no because he knows
I mean look when when he him and all I’m
not this isn’t just Donald right this is
everyone at every single Ronnie Hillary
almost everyone right sure because when
they put the other tax buy all we’re
cutting the tax to all this we use the
number from this tax group right it
doesn’t add up right and I said oh it’s
gonna cost you know thirty trillion
dollars over ten years oh no the economy
will increase so much right right you
know it’s BS right do you process the
boat though you got to pick somebody to
vote how was it what comes out look we
got 12 months right you owe me nothing
matter so late
yeah right and so um we got lots of time
and you know things will start right now
they can play Alice in Wonderland and
just throw things up and it doesn’t
matter right I mean because none of
their tax plans work and then Hillary
and Bernie say okay tax the 1% and
that’ll pay for everything doesn’t work
right
won’t work you know Hilary’s um pay for
college her plan is ridiculous it’ll
increase college costs not reduce you
know so they don’t they don’t think them
through they just say okay here’s here’s
my justification but over time they’ll
have to start thinking them through and
they’ll have to start dealing and
addressing some facts and then at that
point in time you say okay knowing that
none of this is ever going to pass who’s
still going to be the best president
when it’s all said and done it’s going
to be very interesting it okay it’ll be
reality very very interesting on what’s
going to happen so let’s do it let’s do
a couple things here with fun and then
we’ll go into cyber to wrap it up sports
you know Dallas and what happened with
our you know we can say runaway bride if
you want to call it oh yeah it’s so spur
got it
runaway bride who what happened with
them if you were to ever call back this
season let’s just say because my opinion
is this I think if the clips don’t pull
it together this year I think
something’s going to break apart that’s
my opinion I’m sure I don’t care yeah
that’s that if he called us he wants to
come and plead Alice would you ever take
him battle never so now you never say
never you never say never right
everybody deserves a second chance
sure you know dee will said no to us
initially and we brought them back
interested right so you know I just care
about winning
and I’ll put winning above ego any time
I noticed with guys that get to your
level that there’s got to be a level you
have a strong memory because you know
enemies everyone’s got a target we got
enemies but there’s also level of
forgiveness when it comes down to that
you’re here to win right oh so just make
sense if the opportunity arises yeah why
not why not right I mean look it’s
basketball it’s not thermonuclear war
right it’s not like you shot my cousin
you know or you know we’re just you know
cut off his pinky right it’s basketball
oh my goodness we think sometime we you
know when we drink some of these
exciting drinks you got back here
sometime we get a little bit more
excited thinking it’s very very
important exactly so you think Golden
State could go 73 and nine this year
yeah who knows right I hope not but
we’ll see they’re looking good they’re
really good looking very very good some
fun questions from your favorite type of
music what do you long hip up
even when you were younger or was it
kind of a thing yes yeah classic funky
hip-hop yeah so Tupac or biggie um
probably biggie I just like to beat more
and it did you know Tupac was more about
you know the message and Biggie was like
let’s just party favorite decade of
music um probably the 90s right now that
we have isn’t yeah okay you got a
favorite song you listen to during work
young um yeah yeah I forget that love
band though it’s called I’m a beast
whose mo beast you know is I’m a beast
all I’ve got on my phone
over there yeah that’s how gods you or
you bi eyes like yeah that’s actually
great favorite movie of all time
oh gosh I don’t have anyone I mean I’m
really into like into the world movies
so my wife always cracks up so any movie
that has like bends do yeah I like Sam
yeah Independence Day like San Andreas
Fault was a horrible movie but the whole
place was falling apart
you know the day after tomorrow I’ll
watch you know um you name it if if the
whole world is blowing up you know and
la is crumbling and there’s some big old
thrust of water you know wave of water
coming through New York I was like
that’s why I did sharknado 3 right it’s
the end of the world are you two cars
are not real on that interview I have
Alexis but I’m not in the car got it
favorite room in the house I know you
living in a big house do you got like a
real cool place you built for yourself
like some like no not like this because
actually my house was perfect when I had
no furniture I mean I my buddies came
over I could throw a football we played
wiffle ball I mean we had one bin zayed
inside yeah and what we were doing you
know like imagine you know you drive
over the sofas you can catch a pass and
you roll up the sofa like you just got
tackled it was perfect then I got
married things changed when that happens
real quick so um iPhone or droid both I
carry one of each two different networks
so if my network is bad on one I have
the other and I get the test and play
with all actually you prefer more it
just depends on the app really so you’re
you’re both sure yeah well like let me
be independent it’s what I like what I
like about Android is that with Samsung
has replacement batteries
so I just carry an extra battery on and
but on the flip side iOS battery seemed
to last longer um so there’s pluses and
minuses to both so I don’t know if you
heard him say this iOS batteries tend to
last longer to all my droid friends out
there yeah okay so let’s talk about
cyberdust uh-huh
this has become the app that I check
probably the most on a daily basis
outside of YouTube good and YouTube I
checked because of what we got going on
but this is a very very exciting app
tell me the story behind why cyberdust
sure um back in 2013 I had a trial
against the SEC the SEC accused me of
insider trading and in the trial as part
of their discovery they took all my
emails and some of the most innocuous
emails you know when I wrote them
thought okay this is read it you know
this means absolutely nothing they would
take and they turned him into like oh
this is proof you did X Y & Z like I
said I had one of my buddies Lee that is
the world’s worst stock trader and I
said that in the email you know cuz he
asked me about the stock that I was
accused of insider trading mama calm and
I said you know no stay away from it
because I knew he would just lose money
figure out a way to lose money and I
said you know when when the SEC asked me
about it I said no he’s the world’s
worst right and said no you knew the
stock was going down and you just said
that to protect him I’m like that’s
ridiculous right so – so what was that
simple as that just but when you’re in
an adversarial position whether it’s y
se C or any lost interest right if
you’ve ever done a deposition right
whatever you say the other side’s
attorney is going to try to turn it into
something to their benefit sure and and
with emails with text it loses context
and when you really think about it the
minute you hit Send on an email a text
message a Facebook message whatever it
may be the minute you hit Send you lose
ownership of it but you don’t lose
responsibility for it and we’re not
talking about general ownership but not
responsibility very interest right
because if I send you an email you own
it now that’s right right if you want to
say you know when I if I said the sky is
blue what an amazing day
a you know and then you know something
comes out and you say see he sent me
this email he doesn’t really believe
this guy is green you know he may have
said this guy he’s a liar right she
Cubans a liar you know and so you can
take anything I said you know if if my
daughter has a friend who you know finds
her lost iPad which would be a calamity
and she says I love you for this thank
you so much you’re the best thing that
ever happened to me and some little
schmucky little kid says Oh from Alexis
I have this email and she says she loves
me see right that responsibility that
context can change forever that’s why I
started cyberdust so from a business
perspective um I didn’t like the fact
that I lost control of all my emails no
matter where they were
since particularly since I do everything
via email um at the time um I didn’t
like the fact that anybody could keep it
whether or not I liked it or not right
front and so and I also liked the fact
that because it disappeared it was like
a face to face conversation so when you
and I talk to be a cyber us it’s like
talking here now sure except now it’s
being recorded but you know – the camera
– the cameras right if you take the
picture name doesn’t say Dave doesn’t
show Naumann oh but even yeah but even
if you take a screenshot right not only
does it not say who it came from but it
sends me an alert and you know you talk
if someone were to have a whole group of
screenshots trying to reassemble a
conversation you’re going to know
something was wrong in the first place
right because you’re not going to if you
want them to save it you’re not going to
have that conversation in cyber to us if
I’m sending you something I want you to
save I’m gonna say I’m what’s your email
right because you don’t you use email
less right but you know you still can
use email here’s a contract here you
know this discussed in terms we need to
moralize that’s great but for having
what would otherwise be in a
face-to-face conversation for anything
that is just a business conversation I’m
going to use cyber dust every time and
so that’s why I created it and when we
created it you know like anything else
like any other business I thought this
would be big for kids right so it’s like
kids it’s the post snapchat generation
that really is into it people who think
in terms of words people who communicate
ideas you know as opposed to here’s a
picture of my lunch you fell in common
with snapchat if they has made a very
big mistake they had a very big miss you
said everything
yeah and that benefit cyber does I mean
positioning wise that was not a good
move on there right now and that’s okay
I mean they’re fine
and Evans not worried about anything but
at the same time you know we’re kind of
like if you will snapchat for grown-ups
you know when once you get past it
here’s pictures of my dad for grown-ups
yeah you know it for people wonder so if
you only use snapchat you’re trying to
figure out what it is right
because snapchats all about pictures
it’s not about communication cyberdust
is about communicating ideas it’s a you
know you can send links you can send it
from one to one person and then send it
to a hundred or a thousand or million
people that follow you um cyberdust
is about being able to have a private
conversation
privacy creates honesty if we’re having
a conversation and you and I could talk
about politics and I can beat like we
did and I can be brutally on and you
were and I was right because it’s not
going everywhere and the minute if you
took a snapchat a snapshot I’m not
talking about anymore right and and then
I can it’s not for me right because it
doesn’t have my so that privacy really
makes people a lot more candid and if
you and if you’re in a big business as
an example your lawyers will always tell
you you know write an email knowing that
someone else is going to be reading it
and it could be a lawyer from an
opposing counsel right you don’t have to
do that with cyberdust you can just be
honest and to me that moves forward the
conversation and makes businesses more
effective do you think politicians
people who are of influence that
everything is held against them do you
think people with you know public
figures they need to start transitioning
away from Twitter to cyber that’s what
you’re saying oh yeah and there’s a lot
to do and they just do it on a private
basis you’d be shocked at the be a level
names and the people that use cyberdust
um and that have told me and the
politicians and you know um because I
can see that I’m oh yeah it was born for
work you know 90% of our usage is 9:00
to 5:00 you know and so you know it’s
putting doing it on Twitter whatever
your whole whether you’re 16 26 66 right
everything you do on social media
creates a footprint that says who you
are anybody I hire right that’s going to
direct for me I’m looking
Twitter I’m looking at their Facebook
I’m looking at their Instagram I’m
following them on snapchat because it
all creates a profile who they are and
now there’s machine learning that’s
going through and analyzing these things
and saying okay Patrick is this and I
know that because here’s all his social
media posts and it’s going to be a whole
lot worse if you’re 16 17 18 and you’ve
got this whole long history or some of
this it’s not an issue obviously and
they’re coming out with websites are
coming I would wait to try to audit you
to be able to figure out what you think
your as far as the author but everything
you algorithms everything well I’ll tell
you my opinion conservative so some of
the people that are watching is I love
cyberdust when I first switched to cyber
does and I started messing with it the
first couple things was well you know
what how do I know who the message comes
from all group and all you got to do is
hold the picture comes up which was
great yeah all these different colors
how to know who is this so I had to do
that then you know the screen shot you
have to learn the screen shot that if
you have to get something I want to say
hey get this email screenshot I can save
that okay great that helped me out but I
put it in three different categories so
I use dust as a text right that’s how I
look at this right I use blast as a
tweet how I look at it right as you can
send it but the good thing is I have
groups right on who I can tweet to right
just great really right yeah then I like
the group dust right and on the group
dust I can look at that as group me
that’s group text it’s just price it’s
private it’s an oh group me is becoming
very slow so fun whether I’m running an
organization sales organization a
company it doesn’t matter I can
categorize those three and it’s working
amazingly well for me right now so I’m
I’m a big fan of okay yeah cyber dust in
a major major way so it’s like I get
like I follow you on Saturday so I get
your motivations enough and I’ll be
blasted along right you get the stuff
that I put out there whether it’s on
business or motivation or stuff like
that so and the cool part about it when
you tweet something like on your Twitter
on your Instagram on YouTube right no
matter what you tweet are put out there
someone’s going to bust on you for it
right there’s always going to be a troll
that trolls you from one way and in the
back of your mind you’re always thinking
okay how somebody going to nail me on
this you never have to do that on
Cypress because if I say something you
don’t agree with and you
come back you say math suck well 30
seconds later is gone right and I can
block you and you don’t know it and and
but the better part is no one else sees
it on Twitter if they say well you know
what you suck
right your company sucks everybody sees
that’s right right and you don’t want to
deal with that knowing that everybody’s
gonna see there is a very very good
point you just made I didn’t even think
about that so you’re not talking about
me saying you suck I’m held to it
right you’re saying it’s a brand another
person says you suck right so when I go
sir yeah when I go search for your
company
very good point so when you search for
Mark Cuban or M cube in my Twitter
handle you see all the people say oh
you’re an idiot cube and you suck why
did you do this why did you do that
right I don’t put anything of
consequence on Twitter anymore
Twitter’s like a PR news we’re a lot
less on Twitter than you were talking
not even a question about it’s night and
day not notice about anything a
consequence I put on cyberdust and
blasted out right and so a patrick says
oh that was an interesting concept we
could have a conversation and it’s
private right on Twitter if you say
something that I’m interested one I’m
limited to 140 characters – we could go
to direct message and do it that way but
you could still keep it all right um
three everybody else is going to see the
conversation and it’s going to jump in
and add their own two cents and so it
becomes such a public medium that you
can’t it’s no longer social whereas with
cyberdust if 30 people respond respond
to something I blast out there I can
deal with them 1 1 and if I like
something I can say hey would you mind
if I read last this or you know
screenshot it and send it to everybody
and if I want to I can and so you get
the best of all worlds yeah I’m uh I’m a
big big fan of it you know we use it in
so many we have everybody in the field
getting it use it and then the
interesting thing is the speed is very
it’s getting faster faster and faster it
was a little bit but like this within a
month of change every month you see
something worried that’s not gonna
better and better I love it I’m looking
forward to using it a lot more as well
so I have a feeling you know I was in
front of a group of guys and I said guys
go get cyber does a challenge sometimes
is you know Gary Vaynerchuk he got big
on YouTube early with my library you had
some some of these Twitter guys with
himself he’s got 1.1 million followers
but on Twitter you got involved right
off
man right so yeah I’ve got four million
right and it helped that I was there
that’s nice like I said my suggestion to
everybody is if you’re not on if you if
you don’t have a big presence on Twitter
if Africa it’s a lot easier go get a big
before cyberdust got five million users
I’d rather have electro we get the
rights but yeah so if you add your stuff
so if you want to get followers and
you’re looking to build a following on
Twitter it’s really hard right and you
know if you built enough build up a
thousand followers on Twitter it’s
probably taking you multiple years and
half of them are dormant or BOTS right
on cyberdust there are no BOTS first of
all and if you add yourself to chatters
then you’re going to be able to get
followers and we have a follow Friday
like Twitter does right and we’ll put
out there people to follow um but also
we’re going to be improving our
discovery mechanism significantly here
over the next two months and so because
to your point we want regular everyday
people to be able to get a thousand two
thousand five thousand followers we’re
on Twitter they might have 150 followers
and most of those are just follow backs
or BOTS and so it they’re not really of
consequence so no doubt about it but if
they did a number saying Twitter their
biggest criticism is only 24 percent of
users are real oh really
everyone else that’s crazy not real
because they sell thousand fake
followers because you know now that I
can write fake file right right and then
you know so that’s yet another world
bots don’t work you can’t bought ours
you can bot cyberdust
that’s great that’s great well you know
again more thank you for your time I
want to give you this book and I want
you to open the front of everybody I
just want to show you if you actually
have it or enough I do have it you can
give it away to somebody and I use
obvious incredible specials crap nobody
no life I don’t have five of these but
I’ll have at least for now is it a first
print first Adele without a person for
this is a first print first edition 1957
I found it on Beverly Hills it’s not a
third edition its first first of all set
original uh that’s amazing Wow
yeah and I got it for it because when we
were in Nashville I got up and asked you
a question I said hey book that impacted
in most you said and ran out the shrub
that’s it I can’t now read it again
better to get it for you so there was
another three weeks that we read it felt
like the tenth time thank you that’s
it’s a great gift thank you so much and
folks everybody out there watching this
you obviously know everybody loves this
man for his honest direct whether you
like it or not he’s going to give you
the direct opinion on anything with
business one share this video with other
people to go get cyber dust app
downloaded and tell your friends to also
get on cyberdust and start using it and
you know many times you’ll be surprised
you send them a message you’ll be
surprised with him responding back
trying to respond them all and I
guarantee you I’m going to try to
motivate you like Patrick I try to do as
many motivational great stuff you said
last yeah what’s your userid cyber
dusted a conviction also is just blog
mail remember yeah blog never blog
maverick once again thank you so much it I talk about out