I’m Yousef on Andy and as expected I
would like to tell two parts actually of
my life activities one in the
educational field which I started after
graduation by teaching first at the
senior high of Canisius College here as
a malicious and then I went to become
assistant professor at the School of Law
of the University of Indonesia between
1960 and 65 in 64 I was induced or
absolute to join my team then at the
School of Law to the Supreme Advisory
Council and that was led by the former
president Sukarno that was the one year
and it was in 64 so one year before 65
it was a turbulent year as you can
imagine and but I was involved also at
the supreme reference council on the
educational system to be established in
indonesia and then because of the
circumstances of 65 I entered politics
and was on the street for six months
with the students while I was already a
lecturer and then went into politics
completely between 67 and 1988 I was a
member of the supreme of the central
board would the culture party that I was
being able together with my colleagues
and also the military very important
reestablish immigration of many
organizations about 260 mass
organizations consisting of a limo
llamas women students use intellectuals
and the military into one party the
Golkar party and run the first election
of 1971 so that is the second part
but let me now start with education well
education as health may be at the two
main stage of development and
modernization and that’s why it’s
critically important that we pay
attention to education as well as
assessment explain health and those two
pillars has been definitely paid
attention to better government and the
government and the leaders of our
society know that those two pillars are
critical for our modernization in the
future well I am sure made education has
been paid more attention to than health
earth was later now there is enough
attention to health because we know
education not care if health is a
education now has got 20 percent of our
national budget that was an effort for
many years before we reach that level
but again it is not only the money and
the amount of money that we spend it is
for purpose we spend it and what is the
education really for and in that context
what system do we that you write to
establish
to make education a real instrument for
development and modernization and that
of course has always been a perennial
problem for us we have many ministers
education with respect but we don’t have
many visionaries among them who has been
able to put our system into real
forward-looking and as well as practical
as you know we have been colonized by
the Dutch and I don’t want to blame the
desk for everything but one of the thing
that we have followed was the
educational system of the Dutch and this
is a very one-sided one because they are
only looking for the white color at the
end professionals and they don’t want or
they have not been able really according
to me maybe it has changed it was
Germany has it been given the model of
modern system of Education where
theories and thinking goes hand in hand
with practice and work at the same time
most probably in high schools of Germany
now more than 50% of the irrigation
consists of work either in the factories
in the industries or also in the white
collar field of you know administration
and an organization so therefore but we
actually have to do here it’s really
especially you know with so many
Millennials so many young people that
has been explained by the minister most
probably what we should do then it’s
also follow gradually not immediately
because that is impossible maybe within
one generation we could transfer the
system into a more
ethical oriented system so what we need
is more professional and professional
trainings we don’t have them we have
some but they are not really equipped as
you know there at one time they were at
one time the schools you know of this
vocational trainings have no practice
almost in their training programs so
there you have only a few theories and
they have much time because part of the
time that should be spent on practice
actually they are doing their by
fighting each other and throwing stones
at each other as you remember that
hopefully now it’s over and we have to
look for more vocational trainings to
start with and of course the problem
might be the limitations of money then
but now with 20% of the budget we could
do a lot more although again this budget
of 20% is not all going to the training
of youngsters they also use for seminars
there are other departments and for
stupid estates in the other departments
but they paid whether the budget of
renovation which is not fair and also
not useful and then we do what we need
is lexicomp or has done they have
actually more practical trainings also
at a higher level and and and that is
also lacking here we have one my
brother’s is a priest who is I think one
of the school in solo you know this is
actually vocational training at the
tertiary level but we had don’t have
enough but the Hawaii has been attention
to that and try to expand of course but
first it has to have a very good
Minister of Education who knows it and
would like to also do they further this
budget to that effort if Ron it’s not
coming to the fruit for of of realities
that
me in the future so that it’s a very
critical issue for us we have to put a
system where the private sector is
participating in training our young
people so 50% as I said in Germany maybe
in our case maybe 30 40 % we should have
them trained in the factories so maybe
50 60 % it’s theoretical but 40 percent
at least should be also practical that
needs some change and that needs a lot
of money to go behind it and I think the
holes if we can induce the private
sector to do that give them the
facilities – we have to reward them by
willing to do that and most probably
what we should do is a septic system
giving them bonus giving the best
holidays give them them even discounts
in the success to be able to do this
part training our people at the same
time we’re educating them so this I
think it’s the next hopefully and the
next you know big problem that the
Department of Education is going to face
in the future and I hope if the cuy is
going to be reelected that this idea of
his to be able to expand the system of
education today to the efforts of
practice but if the calluses then I
think that will be the best really will
be going for us in the future for our
youth and you definitely hopefully in
this system that you are not having have
some inkling what that means and
therefore you know maybe if you are
becoming leaders and ministers for
education or health but Minister of
Education
hopefully that idea that can be
implemented to a very large extent for
our people then we have people that is
well not only equip the theories but
equipped with practice
lfts and practice doing it with their
own hands problem is we don’t maybe
let’s meet the engineers and then you
know the handyman that is not being
trained now nobody is training them and
so therefore in the building business
now they are hijacking all these
laborers that has some and actually some
some practically it is you know equip
and and that is definitely show only how
much we do need them so that is number
one
so education it’s a critical issue and
we are still struggling to establish our
system and of course implement them I
hope that it is not only confined to the
budget but also to the system and to the
purpose what is education is for in the
future now let me go to the second part
of my life and that was of course
politics I’ve been in politics practical
politics for 20 years over and helping
so I saw and I was member of the
People’s Congress Congress or the
people’s consultative assembly for for
terms of 20 years five years each and of
course you know I know you affair he
means maybe tired of politics and on the
fire maybe also you are fed up with our
politics and our politics only you see
that now internationally politics
internationally has become a curse
instead of a blessing it should be
politics should be a very noble exercise
politics is to a imported welfare or the
people that is the end actually idea or
the end results of politics has to be
but again I do am it and I’m also very
much
rivalz you know because of our our own
politics that has gone solo you know
that political parties Parliament and
and and and politicians the
lowest-ranking group in public opinion
even lower than the police so that is
definitely in a very critical issue for
our future because politics should be
despite this despite the corruption
should be you know a very important part
in establishing our societies at this
juncture States government’s politics
for the matter it’s a matter of people
interests and people’s welfare and of
course that it’s not being paid
attention to you know you have this case
of setting off as you know this is the
Speaker of the House which is really
amazing filthy and and that’s why the
most probably you are fed up with
politics but I wanted to argue with you
modification for people instead of
self-interest or group interest and that
needs definitely you know a change of
heart a change of mind you have to see
that politics it’s a critical ingredient
in the development of the society
because only through politics you can
reach out to all our people groups in
society and that means also
philanthropists are very important part
but it’s not radical only the state has
the means and aware of yourself and the
capabilities to really do it for the
whole of our people
so that’s why and we have to stand up
and make politics healthy again and that
that that that is a very important but a
critical but also very very difficult
thing to do but that way that’s why I
will have him impose a new actually as
the potential leaders of the country to
think about these issues and to not just
face that easily because it’s a critical
element in building a society and
therefore you have made you have to make
it better for the future when I was 65
as I said I was actually because of
circumstance that I went join politics
because I was always planning to become
a professor and in 65 actually I was
planning to go to the United States for
my PhD in law I was accepted and there
was a already scholarship for me from
the American government but then in
Maine 65 all that changed when I
attended the 45th anniversary of the
Communist Party you know that the Laura
Boren or debris bit of the big stadium
hundred fifty thousand people with
representations from Vietnam China and
Bukhara was gay and one Khanna was so
critical you know with in line with the
Communist Party would like to do that he
said you are not family
you are not kinship but if you die I
will lose you and ever lose you know the
future
so this are things that was so critical
for me and I said and decided then when
I went back from that big horahora
at the stadium this and how I cannot go
so I decided not to go and just fight it
out in the country
and in a way that changed my life
because I ran into politics and try
that’s not easy but we have only the
Melissa 10 that has the capability to
develop this country so we work with
them we will face them we try to open
make them more open not all that we have
to succeeded you know of in all things
but in many 50 practical things we have
been able to change activate the system
somewhat the security of military rule
somewhat and and that is a step forward
that makes it possible that after 98 and
so are to step down we could establish
reasonable you know working democracy so
that I think as an effort that we then
could do and need to do despite together
with the military with right to open up
the system and prepare the youngsters
especially and the people that they will
be a better you know open democratic
system in the future
and we did that so therefore I argue
with you you are the next generation to
take over you know this little the
leadership in the country in every field
and you have a role to play in politics
don’t despise politics make it better
meet the game noble to fight for the
people’s interests then I think we will
be a much better country in the future
where we like our system like our
culture like our actually you know laws
as well as our you know regulations and
what we are used to tradition and that
is communalism we do it together for the
for everybody and that should be
actually the idea of good politics so I
asked you here I don’t know at the
my time is over now but anyhow are you
want two things a good education system
critical and you have to look into that
also so that when the time comes you
have a say in this field do the right
thing
put the right system and give the money
also for the right purpose and in
politics more critical even more
important even over a to argue be a
noble politician everybody in their heart thank you