Translator: Leonardo Silva Reviewer: Custodio Marcelino
So I’ll start by singing a song, a little trick,
which marks well who I am here within this academy:
“Who are you who already wants to be a doctor?
I bargain abused, with the stubborn tail, who sent it? “
Nobody sent it.
In fact, I come from a poor family,
I am the third person in my family to get into a university,
and that was it, right?
Today, I’ve seen other speakers talking
and I saw that we have affinities to travel.
Join UFRJ in the 90’s
it was still a very special place.
I did not even have that idea.
I wanted to do university,
and I did not know it was so special to be in the public university.
But, so unfortunately, upon arriving here …
and I’m going to need to tell a little of my story
so that I can then tell you the reason of the university that I want for the future
and to our children.
Then, when I arrived here, I was not welcomed as I had imagined.
It was a “hippopotamus university”,
You know, slow.
which he segregated.
I have often felt discriminated against because I am a poor black girl.
It was a very bad period because it is a saga, right,
we enter the university: the pre-university entrance examination,
and the parents of us make a sacrifice
so we can do the pre-college entrance exam.
I had also come from a failed experience in Gama Filho.
First, because of the value, it was getting difficult to deal with at home …
And it was law school, and when I got there,
I saw that I wanted something creative, and I could not find it in the right.
Then I said no and I could not pay,
it was such a stress, how it was going to be at the end of the month.
I left Gama with a debt.
And then, I decided to go to the pre-college entrance examination, I asked the family for this second chance
and I managed to move to Letras here in Fundão.
And then, it was very disappointing, so, not being able to find pairs, you know.
I wrote, I wanted to be a writer,
and the university was also erasing that, as well.
The feeling I had when I arrived in Letras is that I knew nothing,
and then, I stopped writing, it was a very difficult period.
Then one day, walking down the aisles of the university,
I saw a group of black people performing theatrically in the hallway.
I froze. Imagine, right?
I said, “Man, everybody’s like me!”,
and all in white, with some clothes like that … beat, with some tied,
and when it was over, very emotional, I went to talk to the director:
“Look, I want to be a part of it.
I want to follow you and I do not want to lose anymore. “
And there was my great salvation
because I even learned those days, here with the [TEDx] people,
that I “hackeei” the university.
This group has brought me a critical position
about what I was living inside the university,
even because we were somewhat afraid to find:
“Dude, I think that teacher is discriminating against me.”
It was something that was not talked about much, but that had a lot.
And then, I found those pairs,
who lived these situations in other universities.
This group was called “Cê Num”,
and was a group that had a projection in the state
and had a national projection as well.
We even had one or two meetings in Bahia,
and had some joints that left Rio de Janeiro.
It was a very positive group for my political thinking,
for my criticism of academia and education, because we discussed this a lot.
We also discussed gender,
and we were in the middle, like that, crushed, because we did not think about quotas.
Quotas had already been thought for generations before us,
who could not make them happen.
And we had this discussion, we looked for these people,
who had been discussing this reparation issue for decades.
This word begins to appear in the means of education,
in the means of art and culture,
who had a history to be repaired with the blacks in our country,
and it’s still going on and maybe we’ll have to get old guns again
So that we can move forward.
And then, this group was giving me ground.
It was a very articulate group.
We were a nucleus of the Theater Center of the Oppressed,
which was directed by Augusto Boal.
So this was a political theater, it was a theater of attitude,
and this will propel me to education
in a way that I never came back.
Only, in this course, I know the Instituto de Arte Tear
and begin to take the courses from there, to develop,
and I’ve been in this institution for 20 years.
I went through all the courses, I worked on all kinds of projects.
Today, I coordinate two mediation projects there.
This was very important to me because, with this disappointment of the academy,
There was an hour when I gave up.
I said, “Look, it makes no sense to me this ‘via crucis.’”
After you pass the entrance exam,
you arrive at a gym that, in the 90’s,
I did not have so many possibilities for a purse …
It had some research, but it was only for a very select group,
that we could not reach …
And then I decided to leave.
I said, “I do not want to, I do not believe that education is like this”,
very driven by the experience with the culture of childhood in the Tear,
affectionate, welcoming, knows,
a process that we go through the look because you lived too.
I said, “No, I just believe that.”
Then I left the university,
I participated in many institutions …
I helped found AfroReggae.
I went through, I do not know, many, many even,
as art educator, sometimes as an incentive,
as a person to collaborate, to add in the processes.
And it was very good, thank you …
I worked in an institution here in Maré, where I worked for 11 years,
to Networks of the Tide,
and then a coordinator there said it to me:
“Look, I want you to go to Red Beach today.
because he is starting a very nice project there
and I want the Network to have a stake. “
Then I was not quite sure what it was. Not even the name of the project did I know.
When I got there … this was 2009 … it was the University of Quebradas,
which is a project created by Heloísa Buarque de Hollanda and Numa Ciro,
and I was completely in love.
In 2009,
Helô and Numa joined, throughout the entire year,
intellectuals from various fields, artists, cultural producers,
the galley of the outskirts, on the outskirts of Rio de Janeiro …
It was the first time I heard about “periphery of Brazil” …
I did not imagine that, but there is a periphery in Brazil …
and international teachers.
When there was some professor here at the university giving soup,
that Helô knew, she would take to discuss.
And then, we thought what it would be like Quebradas
and in 2010, we have the first group of “quebradeiros”, of which I was part,
and as I am one of the oldest there, today I am master of breaking.
Yeah, hello is amazing, guys, you need to meet.
The University of Quebradas works today here in the building of Letters,
within the PACC, which is a postgraduate program,
Program of Acceleration of Contemporary Culture.
And today we are installed here.
We are managing to organize our space better.
here inside the UFRJ.
And so it was very striking to me.
I chose this moment to be able to anticipate
What I imagine of a university of the future for my daughter Dora
because the University of Quebradas is very close to that.
It was very exciting for me to be able to go back to the gym.
I remember that on the first day I got there UQ, at that meeting,
and they introduced me to Helô, Helô came and gave me a hug …
Then, you already imagine: “Caraca, this fantastic intellectual!”
And she came: “Wow, you’re the face of Quebradas!”
I was like this … and I said, “Wow, is this really inside the gym?”
I distrusted, at first,
because it was unrelated to anything I had ever lived in here.
And I really embraced this project.
Today, I am assistant to the co-ordination general.
We help in the process of the program,
but we have a very organic university there.
It’s an extension course.
So anyone who joins the course can be in the meetings.
At least twice a month, we meet with the group in an inn
and everyone speaks directly to the coordination of what they want, what they want,
if the program is legal, if it needs to be wiped somewhere,
whether it is being referenced or not.
And this is the university I believe in,
a welcoming university,
that he listens to the needs that we have.
This event is wonderful and one can not help but understand
that this is a political choice.
I’ve heard other speakers talking here
the diversity you need to have,
to better manage the resources that come to university
and that they arrive at graduation.
I believe we need to have an education of affection.
at any stage of life.
We have this principle on the Tear.
We have training courses for adults, teachers,
and we tell history, we play …
It’s not because you turned six and learned to read
that no one else needs to read a story for you,
that you do not need to hear someone’s story.
So what I wanted to do as a brand
it’s this university that I dream of for Dora, who is my 15-year-old daughter,
that I dream of the grandchildren and that I dream of everyone’s child:
a university where we erase the pre-university entrance examination and the entrance exam, you know,
a university where we do not have to have quotas
because you were born and you are born with the right to have a training,
from the nursery, from the infantile education, to the university,
wherever you want to go.
I think we’re in this moment, you know,
to think that we do not need, in training …
If education is a right of all,
it is everyone’s right up to the last step that everyone wants to get.
The feeling I have today is that a lot has already advanced.
To exist this space here makes me very happy,
with an incredible crowd, who keeps updating me …
I think it’s the “F5” that updates on the computer …
It was the biggest “tum” when I got here on [TEDx]
understand how I built my hacking process
because I got angry at the university,
but every time I had something really cool I went there:
“Tum, I’m going to take this course.”
I already knew where the front door was.
So I’ve been doing a lot of things,
even if they did not want me, even if they were hiding, listening,
but I always knocked on the door and I said, “Oh, I think it’s nice, can I do it?”
And then, I think I was able to do an autonomous training.
There in Quebradas I say this a lot:
“Let’s abolish ‘banking’ education. No one will just sit there and watch.
There is an hour when you come to share your knowledge here with us.
We need this exchange.
We need you to tell us what you think is important to your training. “
So what I think is this, that in this university of the future,
We need to be an education manager.
It needs to be organic, it needs to have life.
I left university because it was unrelated to my life.
I already worked on several social projects,
I had to cross the city to get here.
and arrive in a Greek classroom where I was speaking:
“Professor, but what is it to do?”, Running,
and the teacher: “Copy”.
There, it had a table of declinations in Greek
and it did not make any sense to me.
Then I got distant.
I’m talking about this and going back a bit
because, for a while, I carried a blame:
it was me who could not handle the university,
but the University of Quebradas showed me that no,
that it was the university that was too small for me to squeeze in there.
So I think it has already widened,
we managed to advance in some things,
but we still have a long way to go, a lot.
I think extension is one of the pillars of the university,
but he is still that youngest son whom no one gives much attention to.
Research, graduate and academic training
are far ahead of the extension.
And extension is a place of socialization,
is a place where a guy who has tried a thousand times sometimes …
there in Quebradas we see this … enter university.
Often our public education makes a natural shortfall,
but the guy gets there and he has a lot to know,
because he is the capoeira master of his community,
because he founded a women’s social project,
because it articulates an entire territory within Rio de Janeiro,
but the academy can not see this as knowing.
But at the University of Quebradas this is to know.
We value and we look the same.
This is the great research that Helô proposes,
this exchange of knowledge between the periphery and the academy,
this ecology of knowledge, and it is in this place that I believe.
To finish,
I want to talk about a quote from Milton Santos,
who is one of the intellectuals who are most dear to me,
and I had an opportunity, in this national militancy,
to meet him, along with my group of black university students,
in São Paulo, USP,
and he commented something to that effect,
which I later saw in one of their latest videos on the internet,
in which he said that humanity
was still living “civilizational flashes”.
On the one hand, it welcomed me because I said:
“Man, then, we have a lot of work ahead,”
but on the other, it torments me, you know.
We can not go back.
It has to be from now on.
That’s what I had to tell you. Thanks.
(Applause) (Live)
So I’ll start by singing a song, a little trick,
which marks well who I am here within this academy:
“Who are you who already wants to be a doctor?
I bargain abused, with the stubborn tail, who sent it? “
Nobody sent it.
In fact, I come from a poor family,
I am the third person in my family to get into a university,
and that was it, right?
Today, I’ve seen other speakers talking
and I saw that we have affinities to travel.
Join UFRJ in the 90’s
it was still a very special place.
I did not even have that idea.
I wanted to do university,
and I did not know it was so special to be in the public university.
But, so unfortunately, upon arriving here …
and I’m going to need to tell a little of my story
so that I can then tell you the reason of the university that I want for the future
and to our children.
Then, when I arrived here, I was not welcomed as I had imagined.
It was a “hippopotamus university”,
You know, slow.
which he segregated.
I have often felt discriminated against because I am a poor black girl.
It was a very bad period because it is a saga, right,
we enter the university: the pre-university entrance examination,
and the parents of us make a sacrifice
so we can do the pre-college entrance exam.
I had also come from a failed experience in Gama Filho.
First, because of the value, it was getting difficult to deal with at home …
And it was law school, and when I got there,
I saw that I wanted something creative, and I could not find it in the right.
Then I said no and I could not pay,
it was such a stress, how it was going to be at the end of the month.
I left Gama with a debt.
And then, I decided to go to the pre-college entrance examination, I asked the family for this second chance
and I managed to move to Letras here in Fundão.
And then, it was very disappointing, so, not being able to find pairs, you know.
I wrote, I wanted to be a writer,
and the university was also erasing that, as well.
The feeling I had when I arrived in Letras is that I knew nothing,
and then, I stopped writing, it was a very difficult period.
Then one day, walking down the aisles of the university,
I saw a group of black people performing theatrically in the hallway.
I froze. Imagine, right?
I said, “Man, everybody’s like me!”,
and all in white, with some clothes like that … beat, with some tied,
and when it was over, very emotional, I went to talk to the director:
“Look, I want to be a part of it.
I want to follow you and I do not want to lose anymore. “
And there was my great salvation
because I even learned those days, here with the [TEDx] people,
that I “hackeei” the university.
This group has brought me a critical position
about what I was living inside the university,
even because we were somewhat afraid to find:
“Dude, I think that teacher is discriminating against me.”
It was something that was not talked about much, but that had a lot.
And then, I found those pairs,
who lived these situations in other universities.
This group was called “Cê Num”,
and was a group that had a projection in the state
and had a national projection as well.
We even had one or two meetings in Bahia,
and had some joints that left Rio de Janeiro.
It was a very positive group for my political thinking,
for my criticism of academia and education, because we discussed this a lot.
We also discussed gender,
and we were in the middle, like that, crushed, because we did not think about quotas.
Quotas had already been thought for generations before us,
who could not make them happen.
And we had this discussion, we looked for these people,
who had been discussing this reparation issue for decades.
This word begins to appear in the means of education,
in the means of art and culture,
who had a history to be repaired with the blacks in our country,
and it’s still going on and maybe we’ll have to get old guns again
So that we can move forward.
And then, this group was giving me ground.
It was a very articulate group.
We were a nucleus of the Theater Center of the Oppressed,
which was directed by Augusto Boal.
So this was a political theater, it was a theater of attitude,
and this will propel me to education
in a way that I never came back.
Only, in this course, I know the Instituto de Arte Tear
and begin to take the courses from there, to develop,
and I’ve been in this institution for 20 years.
I went through all the courses, I worked on all kinds of projects.
Today, I coordinate two mediation projects there.
This was very important to me because, with this disappointment of the academy,
There was an hour when I gave up.
I said, “Look, it makes no sense to me this ‘via crucis.’”
After you pass the entrance exam,
you arrive at a gym that, in the 90’s,
I did not have so many possibilities for a purse …
It had some research, but it was only for a very select group,
that we could not reach …
And then I decided to leave.
I said, “I do not want to, I do not believe that education is like this”,
very driven by the experience with the culture of childhood in the Tear,
affectionate, welcoming, knows,
a process that we go through the look because you lived too.
I said, “No, I just believe that.”
Then I left the university,
I participated in many institutions …
I helped found AfroReggae.
I went through, I do not know, many, many even,
as art educator, sometimes as an incentive,
as a person to collaborate, to add in the processes.
And it was very good, thank you …
I worked in an institution here in Maré, where I worked for 11 years,
to Networks of the Tide,
and then a coordinator there said it to me:
“Look, I want you to go to Red Beach today.
because he is starting a very nice project there
and I want the Network to have a stake. “
Then I was not quite sure what it was. Not even the name of the project did I know.
When I got there … this was 2009 … it was the University of Quebradas,
which is a project created by Heloísa Buarque de Hollanda and Numa Ciro,
and I was completely in love.
In 2009,
Helô and Numa joined, throughout the entire year,
intellectuals from various fields, artists, cultural producers,
the galley of the outskirts, on the outskirts of Rio de Janeiro …
It was the first time I heard about “periphery of Brazil” …
I did not imagine that, but there is a periphery in Brazil …
and international teachers.
When there was some professor here at the university giving soup,
that Helô knew, she would take to discuss.
And then, we thought what it would be like Quebradas
and in 2010, we have the first group of “quebradeiros”, of which I was part,
and as I am one of the oldest there, today I am master of breaking.
Yeah, hello is amazing, guys, you need to meet.
The University of Quebradas works today here in the building of Letters,
within the PACC, which is a postgraduate program,
Program of Acceleration of Contemporary Culture.
And today we are installed here.
We are managing to organize our space better.
here inside the UFRJ.
And so it was very striking to me.
I chose this moment to be able to anticipate
What I imagine of a university of the future for my daughter Dora
because the University of Quebradas is very close to that.
It was very exciting for me to be able to go back to the gym.
I remember that on the first day I got there UQ, at that meeting,
and they introduced me to Helô, Helô came and gave me a hug …
Then, you already imagine: “Caraca, this fantastic intellectual!”
And she came: “Wow, you’re the face of Quebradas!”
I was like this … and I said, “Wow, is this really inside the gym?”
I distrusted, at first,
because it was unrelated to anything I had ever lived in here.
And I really embraced this project.
Today, I am assistant to the co-ordination general.
We help in the process of the program,
but we have a very organic university there.
It’s an extension course.
So anyone who joins the course can be in the meetings.
At least twice a month, we meet with the group in an inn
and everyone speaks directly to the coordination of what they want, what they want,
if the program is legal, if it needs to be wiped somewhere,
whether it is being referenced or not.
And this is the university I believe in,
a welcoming university,
that he listens to the needs that we have.
This event is wonderful and one can not help but understand
that this is a political choice.
I’ve heard other speakers talking here
the diversity you need to have,
to better manage the resources that come to university
and that they arrive at graduation.
I believe we need to have an education of affection.
at any stage of life.
We have this principle on the Tear.
We have training courses for adults, teachers,
and we tell history, we play …
It’s not because you turned six and learned to read
that no one else needs to read a story for you,
that you do not need to hear someone’s story.
So what I wanted to do as a brand
it’s this university that I dream of for Dora, who is my 15-year-old daughter,
that I dream of the grandchildren and that I dream of everyone’s child:
a university where we erase the pre-university entrance examination and the entrance exam, you know,
a university where we do not have to have quotas
because you were born and you are born with the right to have a training,
from the nursery, from the infantile education, to the university,
wherever you want to go.
I think we’re in this moment, you know,
to think that we do not need, in training …
If education is a right of all,
it is everyone’s right up to the last step that everyone wants to get.
The feeling I have today is that a lot has already advanced.
To exist this space here makes me very happy,
with an incredible crowd, who keeps updating me …
I think it’s the “F5” that updates on the computer …
It was the biggest “tum” when I got here on [TEDx]
understand how I built my hacking process
because I got angry at the university,
but every time I had something really cool I went there:
“Tum, I’m going to take this course.”
I already knew where the front door was.
So I’ve been doing a lot of things,
even if they did not want me, even if they were hiding, listening,
but I always knocked on the door and I said, “Oh, I think it’s nice, can I do it?”
And then, I think I was able to do an autonomous training.
There in Quebradas I say this a lot:
“Let’s abolish ‘banking’ education. No one will just sit there and watch.
There is an hour when you come to share your knowledge here with us.
We need this exchange.
We need you to tell us what you think is important to your training. “
So what I think is this, that in this university of the future,
We need to be an education manager.
It needs to be organic, it needs to have life.
I left university because it was unrelated to my life.
I already worked on several social projects,
I had to cross the city to get here.
and arrive in a Greek classroom where I was speaking:
“Professor, but what is it to do?”, Running,
and the teacher: “Copy”.
There, it had a table of declinations in Greek
and it did not make any sense to me.
Then I got distant.
I’m talking about this and going back a bit
because, for a while, I carried a blame:
it was me who could not handle the university,
but the University of Quebradas showed me that no,
that it was the university that was too small for me to squeeze in there.
So I think it has already widened,
we managed to advance in some things,
but we still have a long way to go, a lot.
I think extension is one of the pillars of the university,
but he is still that youngest son whom no one gives much attention to.
Research, graduate and academic training
are far ahead of the extension.
And extension is a place of socialization,
is a place where a guy who has tried a thousand times sometimes …
there in Quebradas we see this … enter university.
Often our public education makes a natural shortfall,
but the guy gets there and he has a lot to know,
because he is the capoeira master of his community,
because he founded a women’s social project,
because it articulates an entire territory within Rio de Janeiro,
but the academy can not see this as knowing.
But at the University of Quebradas this is to know.
We value and we look the same.
This is the great research that Helô proposes,
this exchange of knowledge between the periphery and the academy,
this ecology of knowledge, and it is in this place that I believe.
To finish,
I want to talk about a quote from Milton Santos,
who is one of the intellectuals who are most dear to me,
and I had an opportunity, in this national militancy,
to meet him, along with my group of black university students,
in São Paulo, USP,
and he commented something to that effect,
which I later saw in one of their latest videos on the internet,
in which he said that humanity
was still living “civilizational flashes”.
On the one hand, it welcomed me because I said:
“Man, then, we have a lot of work ahead,”
but on the other, it torments me, you know.
We can not go back.
It has to be from now on.
That’s what I had to tell you. Thanks.
(Applause) (Live)
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