may the force be with you okay maybe not
that much force that’s how the force
works welcome to watchmojo.com or great
content in this episode we’re taking a
look at Mary Sue’s and whether or not
the term can be used to describe ray in
the force awakens a Mary Sue is a
character is too good at stuff well kind
of this trope is kind of tough to pin
down and can mean different things
depending on who you ask
so to unpack this ambiguous trope got to
go back to when the term was coined in
the 70s specifically 1973 the Year Paula
Smith wrote and published the Trekkies
tale a biting parody of the overly and
inexplicably powerful likable all-around
awesome author avatars that were
commonplace in Star Trek fan fiction at
the time the story which was published
in the magazine menagerie follows the
spectacular Adventures of lieutenant
Mary Sue 15 year old Vulcan Oh
lieutenant I love you madly will you
come to bed with me captain I’m not that
kind of girl you’re right and I respect
you for it
here take over the ship for a minute
while I go get some coffee for us ever
since Smith’s story was published and
circulated in the Star Trek fan fics
community the term has been used to
describe characters outside of fan
fiction specifically characters who much
like lieutenant mary sue are innately
good at things for the sake of narrative
convenience and whose flaws are always
in theory in this context Mary Sue can
apply to countless heroines in romance
fiction from Bella Swan the plain yet
beautiful bland but adored protagonist
of The Twilight Saga to Anastasia Steele
from Fifty Shades of Grey a book that
was spawned from steamy Twilight fan
fiction but what about Ray is she really
a Mary Sue well to fully answer that
let’s start by taking a look at some of
the things that people cite as being
proof of her
Souness Carano by the end of the movie
the audience knows that Ray can speak
many languages well I’m not a club pilot
and repair a ship and use the force
despite the fact that she has zero Jedi
training you’ll remove these restraints
and leave this cell with the door open
but all these things are relative
common among our heroes in a galaxy far
far away who can also understand
different languages pilot and repair
ships and use the force despite the fact
that they’ve had practically no Jedi
training it’s easy to categorize a
character as a marry suit when they can
move things with their mind but at the
end of the day that’s just a reality of
this story world having the force makes
characters really good at stuff that’s
just the nature of the force but on the
other hand rey is really good with the
force like really really good that’ll
probably be addressed in a later
installment of the saga but whether or
not you’re willing to give Disney the
benefit of the doubt is totally up to
you maybe you don’t like race maybe you
think she’s too good with the force too
quickly but part of the reason this
tropes definition is so hard to pin down
nowadays is because people use it to
describe characters they simply don’t
like can you really call Rey a MarySue
you already know the truth well that
depends on whether or not you consider
the force awaken a multi-million dollar
budget fanfic which now that I think of
it is a topic for a whole other video
want more from WatchMojo check out other
great clips on our youtube channel and
be sure to take a look at our special
features of the top 100 movie moments of
the 90s
that much force that’s how the force
works welcome to watchmojo.com or great
content in this episode we’re taking a
look at Mary Sue’s and whether or not
the term can be used to describe ray in
the force awakens a Mary Sue is a
character is too good at stuff well kind
of this trope is kind of tough to pin
down and can mean different things
depending on who you ask
so to unpack this ambiguous trope got to
go back to when the term was coined in
the 70s specifically 1973 the Year Paula
Smith wrote and published the Trekkies
tale a biting parody of the overly and
inexplicably powerful likable all-around
awesome author avatars that were
commonplace in Star Trek fan fiction at
the time the story which was published
in the magazine menagerie follows the
spectacular Adventures of lieutenant
Mary Sue 15 year old Vulcan Oh
lieutenant I love you madly will you
come to bed with me captain I’m not that
kind of girl you’re right and I respect
you for it
here take over the ship for a minute
while I go get some coffee for us ever
since Smith’s story was published and
circulated in the Star Trek fan fics
community the term has been used to
describe characters outside of fan
fiction specifically characters who much
like lieutenant mary sue are innately
good at things for the sake of narrative
convenience and whose flaws are always
in theory in this context Mary Sue can
apply to countless heroines in romance
fiction from Bella Swan the plain yet
beautiful bland but adored protagonist
of The Twilight Saga to Anastasia Steele
from Fifty Shades of Grey a book that
was spawned from steamy Twilight fan
fiction but what about Ray is she really
a Mary Sue well to fully answer that
let’s start by taking a look at some of
the things that people cite as being
proof of her
Souness Carano by the end of the movie
the audience knows that Ray can speak
many languages well I’m not a club pilot
and repair a ship and use the force
despite the fact that she has zero Jedi
training you’ll remove these restraints
and leave this cell with the door open
but all these things are relative
common among our heroes in a galaxy far
far away who can also understand
different languages pilot and repair
ships and use the force despite the fact
that they’ve had practically no Jedi
training it’s easy to categorize a
character as a marry suit when they can
move things with their mind but at the
end of the day that’s just a reality of
this story world having the force makes
characters really good at stuff that’s
just the nature of the force but on the
other hand rey is really good with the
force like really really good that’ll
probably be addressed in a later
installment of the saga but whether or
not you’re willing to give Disney the
benefit of the doubt is totally up to
you maybe you don’t like race maybe you
think she’s too good with the force too
quickly but part of the reason this
tropes definition is so hard to pin down
nowadays is because people use it to
describe characters they simply don’t
like can you really call Rey a MarySue
you already know the truth well that
depends on whether or not you consider
the force awaken a multi-million dollar
budget fanfic which now that I think of
it is a topic for a whole other video
want more from WatchMojo check out other
great clips on our youtube channel and
be sure to take a look at our special
features of the top 100 movie moments of
the 90s
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