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“I Love Men, Anyway” | Nancy Kachel | TEDxGooseLake


so I love men anyway I am going to talk

today about a male liberation because I

do care about men and I want them to

find fulfillment in their lives and not

be defined by the external world only I

also want to talk about human liberation

and get past talking about traditional

identities so if you had a choice would

you choose to be a man or a woman I

believe that women are not going to make

much more progress on women finding

their fulfillment until men begin to

take on the challenge of their role

identities as well men have to change

for their own reasons however we can’t

expect them to change so we can go

farther they need to change for their

own reasons their own health and their

own fulfillment so it’s probably a

little funny that I’m talking about

their liberation but somebody’s got a

new there’s a major study that was just

released that was completed in the

United Kingdom the United States and

Mexico so it’s quite a sizable study and

what they are they called their study

the man box and what’s in that box is

men must be they must act strong high

weakness and look good and what we’re

finding with young men they’re they’re

finding that very difficult

to do and so they end up with emotional

and physical problems and the study

bears that out so if you can reach your

full potential and this goes for women

and then you tend to find that and more

depressed angry empty inside and

embroidering how let me say a little bit

about myself I grew up on a farm about

20 miles from here and I’m the oldest

only girl had five brothers and a father

and all sorts of hired men that I grew

up with so I learned it was a man’s

world and I learn to be tough

competitive assertive and most of all I

learned the stuff my feelings didn’t

really know about theatres until I went

away to college I didn’t know what a

feeling was and then I went out on a

date with my my first husband here um

and he in the end we went to a movie in

the middle of the movie he started

crying and I’m going what the heck is

wrong with him I didn’t grow up with men

who cried but I fell in love with him

anyway I think I think I found my

missing piece that my dad taught me to

wrestle because he wanted me to be as

strong as my brothers as tough as my

brothers he insisted that I go to

college so I have learned a trade

profession so that I could take care of

myself and I didn’t have to marry

someone just to find someone

take care of me I loved talking with men

in conversations with politics economics

world issues it was terrific I avoided

talks with women who talked about babies

who talked about family talk about

neighborhood and so I was a much more

like a man and my way of approaching

things outside was men’s work and we

could we could as women participate in

that too when I was growing up on a farm

a long time ago men and women work the

farm together it was a real partnership

so it was okay for us as females to work

outside inside however was for women

only and men would be called sissies if

they worked inside when my dad would he

would help out a little bit in the

kitchen when we were having company the

minute he saw a guest arriving he

abandoned that apron and ran for his

easy-chair that was what worked what

life was like on the farm I want to read

a list of really daunting identities

that men are required to fit into they

must be independent dominant adventurous

forceful stoic competitive aggressive

combative career oriented that’s a very

challenging list for anyone to have to

make

to society dictates most of these

identities women stay at home raise

children to be a homemaker men were

taught for probably centuries to be

warriors and all those things I just

listed as May of identities are very

useful as a warrior what’s not useful is

having some of the intern capacities

like compassion like nurturing they

don’t work well on the battlefield so

men have both buried deep inside quite

often totally unidentified and that’s

the challenge I think we face with males

the thing is that women and men have

been complicit in reinforcing those

roles for each other over generations

nobody’s questioned that it’s the way

it’s always been done and so that’s the

way we do it

you get boy boys get to play with trucks

girls get to play with dolls and what’s

unusual about them we take that off the

ground if a boy plays with a doll

they’re quite often called a sissy if a

man is emotional or carry the weak he’s

tall the sissy that thing that happens

with that is it stunts an individual’s

growth when we can’t move past those

culturally defined identities

cities I handed up in the domestic

violence program in Tulsa and for women

we had a safe house for women and

children and we taught them best how

best to prevent violence how to stay out

of those situations and we also started

a men’s program because as I said and

then are so out of touch with their

feelings and their fears that they don’t

leave anywhere to express that except it

gets funneled into anger as the one

acceptable emotion that and then approve

of they can’t express it without it dies

they can’t express disappointment they

can’t do that some of the anger occurs

and they want to dominate the weather

show they’re still dominant in superior

and so they abused a person they know

that they can prove to themselves

they’re still dominant I used the

talking about abuse because it most

exemplifies both dominance and the

superiority syndrome and it’s easy to

see how this works but most men aren’t

abusive however it’s very difficult to

change abuse

because that’s reinforced by US by other

men in our society and probably by the

society as a whole but that

reinforcement keeps telling them they

own that woman they own those children

so they can do whatever they want to do

with that woman and the children that

gets reinforced by the other men that

they hang out with so we read out

primarily with physical violence but

there’s a whole lot more verbal alive on

violence when when you don’t want to

give up that dominance and superiority

it is really difficult to make those

changes so as I said most men aren’t

violent and abusive but they do buy into

the superiority syndrome and that keeps

them from visiting their inner core from

becoming familiar with the feelings and

emotion and things to create the center

of one’s being so anger as I said is

acceptable because it says he’s strong

it’s also cathartic after the anger is

over he feels fine the pain has gone

away and until the next episode he feels

good

I’d like to propose that we deal with

pain

way I’d like to see us eliminate the

traditional identities as they are

associated with men and associated with

women and talk instead about a whole

array of human potential that all of

those capabilities are accessible to men

and women and that will help men and

women I find that fulfillment lets women

in themselves and better identify them

move toward their full potential so how

to make that journey well the first

thing is don’t do anything except listen

listen listen listen to your feelings

observe your reactions observe your

actions listen listen the next step is

to own those identities that you’ve been

taught and to begin to take charge of

your actions your values and your

feelings and out of that you will begin

to control yourself not someone else

yourself so let’s fill the trash can

with those things we don’t need get rid

of dominance and superiority they’re not

a gene they’re not God’s gift they are

learned behaviors and we can change

learn behaviors get rid of control over

another person the only person we can

really control is ourselves the only

person we can really change is ourself

and if you can be a good friend and a

good partner and you can listen and if

that person who’s trying to make some of

those changes is wanting to do that and

need your help

great when once you know great but you

can’t change that person get rid of

blame blame is often that thing that we

don’t like about ourselves we blame

someone else for and you know how it

feels when you get blamed be in touch

with those feelings and then get rid of

who suffers more oh my god I worked so

hard I have to deal with all that crap

poor me get rid of it it is a it’s a

justification for hostility we don’t

need those we don’t need any of these

they only inhibit being able to get

inside ourselves know who we really are

as opposed to what somebody else tells

us we are so in summary listen to your

feelings they’re your feelings you’re

the only one that can control those

students nobody can control them nobody

makes you feel that way unless you

choose to feel that way

anger is is mostly derived from fear

when you get angry ask yourself what am

I

why did I get angry and it can be a

little thing but it’s still almost

always based in fear so ask yourself pay

attention to that if you do it

frequently enough you begin to get in

touch with those feelings that are

driving that anger as I said earlier all

the emotions get funneled into anger

when you’re not in touch with your core

expand your repertoire you have all

these capacities available to you and

when you do that you will begin to know

yourself and not what somebody else has

told you so

do you want to be a woman or a man or do

you want to be the best you you can be

so take the challenge be adventurous I

want to say I’m reminded when I use that

word of a mountain man who’s who was

once asked are you forget do you ever

get lost and he said no I never get lost

it may take me a month or two to figure

out how to get to where I’m going but I

don’t get lost and I want to sit and use

that as an example for all of us to take

that adventure and figure out find the

way to get where you want to go pursue

your your potential and enjoy the

journey and I love men that way thank you

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