wicked tuna real talk you just saw the
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some of Gloucester’s bluefin captains
share their thoughts on the week of
fishing I’ll be your host my name is
Mike sulk all right in this episode we
got three captains in fact a fourth
members well we’ll get to that captain
Paul Lieber to the kellyann Mauro de ba
co-owner of the Kellyanne is here with
us as well captain Dave Marciano of hard
merchandise and captain Tyler McLaughlin
of the pinwheel here as well thank you
all for being with us today
tensions have been mounting on your boat
guys the Kellyanne things came to a head
this week the episode ended with a
bombshell revelation from Morrow
that he’s planning to send Paul packing
see you later
take a look everything’s an uphill
battle
that’s how it’s gonna be – some people
might look nice but they’re really not
good people there’s no doubt in my mind
Kenny and I could take this boat go out
and catch fish I’ll go home I talked to
the family I’ll come back and say we’re
done
it’s been a while I mean but you’ve been
thrown off boats before what would it be
like to be without a boat at this stage
of that is this stage of the season it’s
too late to run another boat it’s way
too late to like get regrouped Mauro you
see that clip you remember what’s been
going on in the boat what can you say
about Paul and his leadership at this
point tensions were definitely high when
you’re not catching you’re not getting
paid it’s it’s a lot of grinded and you
stopped the question everything at this
point you sure seem as if there’s a lot
of regret are you regretting your
decision to hire Paul yes I was pest
tiny going home with no money in my
pocket with a bill all these guys
together all having some issues over
there because the rest of the fleet over
here we’re smoking them we’re catching
fish
we’re catching them yeah you guys just
don’t get on the same page it’s not what
it is but last year when you caught
three a unites everyone goes throw it oh
that’s gotta be hard I mean both both
both Mauro and Kenny were pretty rough
on you they were pretty honest both both
professionally and also really
personally let’s take a look at that
I’ve never spoken to people the way I
get spoken to on this boat
mr. motivation you shouldn’t take a
motivating seminar or something he’s
gonna be a captain because he ain’t
gonna make it it’s only closing and
peace of mind I work so hard I need the
money well he’s not doing the one who
needs money Mar has three kids why we’re
in last place
it’s clearest dad because it’s an I in
me instead of a wheat and dust bug you
know we do we sooner thought when we got
a couple bites we lose fish this is
becoming a joke
yeah Paul wasn’t just your fishing
decisions really they seem to be looking
at everything and examining everything
that you’re doing from washing decisions
through your leadership to your
personality to your work ethic yeah how
do those accusations make you feeling
the grind it wears on you this this for
a livin is not for everybody we’re
actually all half crazy to do this for a
living to give up real jobs to do this
Feast of famine job for a living but
this is all I have I don’t know anything
else did you know that you were
upsetting the guys that much oh yeah
hell yeah and you did yeah well right an
expert at that the more you did it how
did you just not care you enjoy the
Austrade it no you don’t enjoy it you
try to get some sense out of it Tyler
you know when you’ve got these guys have
caught only three fish so far this year
clearly there’s some leadership issues
or some chemistry issues on that boat
how much of a role do you think that
plays in the lack of tuna cod or is it
vice versa well obviously I’ve been
there in the past I’ve had a tough year
it just seems you know they got a lot
going on there that they can’t get on
the same program it’s you know it’s the
different year the Paul’s coming way up
into Maine he’s coming in to different
areas and you know the rest of the fleet
we’re all catching fish and doing well
and it seems like their boat it’s an
absolute catastrophe Dave what do you
think why is Paul lagging behind with
this boat lurk it’s it’s a tough racket
right and they’re right when you have
and things aren’t going right and you’re
not making money everybody can get each
other’s nerves right and this is one of
the things that takes time as a skipper
to kind of learn that even when it’s his
worst as it gets
someone’s gonna you know keep it all
together
again and that’s a skill that’s learned
over time you know what I mean no matter
how bad it is you got to keep the you
know the upbeat pace and you know again
we go through it on up oh you don’t
think you are right right
you know I’ve hit my share of meltdowns
so maybe it’s just saying I change are
still recovering from the one a couple
of days ago yeah but mentally it’s it’s
it’s like that that’s a hard thing
especially when you’re not catching fish
because everybody has given a hundred
percent well let me ask you specifically
Paul me and Mauro says if you were using
your own money maybe you would act a
little bit differently on the boat you
think that’s true it in a way when you
have a boat all the expenses come out of
the fish so when you catch a fish you
take all the expenses out but there’s
still a big nut there we have to come
ahead of those expenses to make money
the time that we put in are you really
got to catch it really gonna make 50
grand to make money you know I mean cuz
it costs like you know 10 grand and
final five grand and bei hooks leaders
young good I think it’s a lot of stress
that weighs on you but if you let it get
to you it will ruin the whole season
tell her what do you think I’m not
sitting down here for five days at a
whack wanting my rod to bend over and
reel in a fish for an hour and then
break him off you got to use adequate
tackle and if you’re not using 200 220
pound test line you have no business
being out on the water oh cool you put
your 150 out you bent your rod you’ve
bought a fish for 10 or 15 minutes and
you bit through the lock you’ve never
used on Tracy
not without precautions everybody tried
has regretted it got a seat safety messy
using everything that I’ve used my whole
life has been one point too late yeah I
know but you’re using a j-hook you ain’t
gonna get the right hook up with that
Paul you you’ve told us so far in this
show not today but in a previous week
that you’ve bought your own boat for
next year you should be all ready to go
as a captain of your own boat yeah has
this season and some of the leadership
issues made you think rethink consider
how you want to do things differently
all the years I’ve been doing this you
learn what not to do it’s not so much
what to do what not to do and you should
end up pretty good morrow what advice
would you give one piece of advice on
leadership of a boat what would you
offer motivate yeah if you don’t
motivate
yeah you make everyone feel porta boat
like listen yeah for me and like for
like TJ and like elite captains and like
Dave I don’t know how he operates in his
boat but like I set my lines TJ I know
he sets his lines and like when you
start having confidence in a mate that
he could set the lines and you can be
comfortable with that and you and that’s
something that your maid is always
aspiring to do
you’re always aspiring to get to the
next level the next job or the next this
so if you can just motivate your crew by
hanging let’s haven’t start doing tasks
that they didn’t used to be able to do
like that they’ve learned and watched
you do you get every one of them you get
them excited you and Paul work together
in North Carolina last year you guys
made a pretty formidable team were there
challenging moments for you with Paul no
not so much you know pretty much down
here in Carolina I had been fishing down
here with the greenstick for quite a few
years pod have been down Green sticking
in like lot of seniors yeah and I think
he had trusted my ability down here I
even the year before and he kind of just
we rolled into it you know he let me run
my spread I did my thing and when Paul
is huge when the fish is on the line
that’s where Paul helps you he
understands away the fish move he
understands how to fight the fish I I
can run the boat or Paul can run the
boat I can fight the fish for Paul can
fight the fish it’s great to have Paul
in the boat because he can do every task
when we get up there and main and you
got a lot of different spots and a lot
of different things going on
picking the right ones hard and I think
at some times you know getting on a new
boat being a captain of a new boat
there’s a lot of pressures that come
with that and I think that’s why he’s
struggling this year all right well if
we learned anything from the latest
episode besides the intricacies of
fishing tackle it’s the teamwork is
everything and Paul’s team fell apart
Tyler struggled in his first trip out
after losing his right-hand man David
last week and meanwhile Marciano and his
tight-knit family crew were busy landing
three fish got family on the boat and
that seems to be working out really
really well for you you’re in second
place right now right behind fishing
vessel tuna.com let’s see what that
looks like
wait wait not yet then we get the happen
great under there
nice shot
good job yet we get up yet Joe set him
on the rod guns are on my left get a
fake good job get them tight get them
tight all right John well done a job
yeah oh yeah night fit well you and your
son and your nephew you guys have been
rolling right along what is the secret
pin so far look the secret is a good
team no matter who you are you need a
good team it just goes to show you you
know it’s not about the boat so much you
need an adequate bone but when you get a
good team things just fall into place
you know it again we had that overnight
right that’ll work together right and
live together you know Jays been on the
boat nine years now full-time then my
son has been coming since he was in pull
up so you know what I mean we know
what’s going on and those guys make it
happen for me without them I’ll be the
first to admit I wouldn’t catch half as
much you know without that good team
behind me there’s nothing well we
started off here talking about chemistry
and Tyler you were on top of the
leaderboard when the week began but now
trying to adjust to some new chemistry
with only one guy in your boat you had
two on the line you lost them both at
once
it wasn’t pretty definitely got a nice
one on keeper here Balraj
shake it double just look close oh my
god we need David
it’s a big one
pull the sucks
he’s off Tyler that one came off pulled
the hook better luck next time me and
without Tyler you end up falling from
first all the way down to third place
you know how big a role did David play
we have to ask now how important was he
in getting you to where you were so far
this year well I mean I went back to my
typical way of doing things and I
decided to hook more than one at once so
we had two on the line and you can’t
drive the boat and fight two fish at
once you know it won’t let one come
slack pulled a hook on him and end up
pulling hook on the other one you know
at least our line held together we
didn’t get shaped off because we’re
using adequate tackle but you know it’s
a bummer not having David on the boat
and it’s just next week we got to
regroup how much of how much of a
learning curve is there gonna be with
Travis you know this is a little bit of
a learning curve with Travis but the
bottom line isn’t the one thing I like
about him is he’s an angler and he
understands being finessed and he’s
caught a lot of fish and a lot of
different pound test lines and he can
understand how to fight a tuna fishing
you as long as you have a good angler
and you got a good startup package you
can mold him into the perfect thing and
I’m seeing that with Travis he wants to
learn he wants to be there he’s positive
he has my back no matter what and that’s
what matters well we saw another boat go
from 3 to 2 also this week we saw a
pretty nice party as well but Dave your
boat is gonna be down a man also as Joe
heads back to college how worried are
you that you’re now gonna have to go out
and do this with 2 again how important
was he to you get you where you are
right look he definitely was a huge help
especially two cuz always that my son
has been my good luck job it’ll be
important to get out there this week
with it’s when Joe’s gone my good luck
job Jay and I really gotta produce a
fish that’s gonna be everything that’ll
keep the momentum going if we strike out
I fear we’re just gonna fall behind
well we’ve seen things fall apart
certainly this week on the Kellyanne the
fleet’s four top boats however fishing
vessel tuna.com hard merchandise
pinwheel and hot tuna are all in a very
tight race Dave we’ve heard you guys
talk about it before your boat is often
viewed as sort of the what the the ugly
duckling of the foods at the humpty
dumpty yeah that’d be the same food
inside of the to the fleet they like to
call us you know
you guys are just limping around how
important in these final few weeks here
a little more than halfway done through
this season how important is it for you
guys to show the rest of this fleet that
it doesn’t matter how big or how
nice-looking the boat is you can still
get it done right we’ve showed them if
nothing else we’ve showed them to this
point you know that we can keep up with
anybody with the boat we got
I’m just hoping you know maybe we can
keep doing it but if we don’t you know
what even if it ends tomorrow we’ve hit
a great season on a personal level I’m
happy with that we caught some fish we
made some money I got to fish with my
son I could ask for nothing more when I
was 16 years old I was following the
hard merchandise around the ocean the
guy was catching fish like it was going
out of style seriously dave was catching
fish and he was the high liner in
Gloucester like three years in a row and
this guy can get it done and the fact
that he’s having such a hot year is
dangerous how does your game plan change
now going forward there’s only gonna be
two guys in the boat you want to try and
stay near the top what changes you and
Jamie so much is gonna change I’m just
gonna keep yelling it yelling at Jay
that’s catching fish every day they’ll
handle if we’re not catching fish I’ll
have a meltdown swearwords around now
you know it seems to have brought you
quite a bit of luck you know three fish
this week Tyler for you I mean you once
again you’re near the top of the
leaderboard not necessarily at the top
this week it was just a couple of years
ago that you won this whole thing how
important is it for you to show that
wasn’t a fluke yeah it definitely wasn’t
a fluke I mean I think I put enough fish
across a dock over the years even before
that to prove that I’m an adequate
fisherman and I can hang with these guys
you know the seasons got a lot left in
it and there’s a lot to come and I know
that Travis and I we’re going to get it
together we would catch a lot of fish
all right that’s all the time we’ve got
I want to thank all these guys captain
Paul Ebert for the Kellyanne Mauro de
Baca as well the owner of Kellyanne
captain Dave Marciano the hard
merchandise and of course captain Tyler
McLaughlin of the hidden wheel to catch
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you
new episode of wicked tuna and now it’s
time for wicked tuna real talk we’re
some of Gloucester’s bluefin captains
share their thoughts on the week of
fishing I’ll be your host my name is
Mike sulk all right in this episode we
got three captains in fact a fourth
members well we’ll get to that captain
Paul Lieber to the kellyann Mauro de ba
co-owner of the Kellyanne is here with
us as well captain Dave Marciano of hard
merchandise and captain Tyler McLaughlin
of the pinwheel here as well thank you
all for being with us today
tensions have been mounting on your boat
guys the Kellyanne things came to a head
this week the episode ended with a
bombshell revelation from Morrow
that he’s planning to send Paul packing
see you later
take a look everything’s an uphill
battle
that’s how it’s gonna be – some people
might look nice but they’re really not
good people there’s no doubt in my mind
Kenny and I could take this boat go out
and catch fish I’ll go home I talked to
the family I’ll come back and say we’re
done
it’s been a while I mean but you’ve been
thrown off boats before what would it be
like to be without a boat at this stage
of that is this stage of the season it’s
too late to run another boat it’s way
too late to like get regrouped Mauro you
see that clip you remember what’s been
going on in the boat what can you say
about Paul and his leadership at this
point tensions were definitely high when
you’re not catching you’re not getting
paid it’s it’s a lot of grinded and you
stopped the question everything at this
point you sure seem as if there’s a lot
of regret are you regretting your
decision to hire Paul yes I was pest
tiny going home with no money in my
pocket with a bill all these guys
together all having some issues over
there because the rest of the fleet over
here we’re smoking them we’re catching
fish
we’re catching them yeah you guys just
don’t get on the same page it’s not what
it is but last year when you caught
three a unites everyone goes throw it oh
that’s gotta be hard I mean both both
both Mauro and Kenny were pretty rough
on you they were pretty honest both both
professionally and also really
personally let’s take a look at that
I’ve never spoken to people the way I
get spoken to on this boat
mr. motivation you shouldn’t take a
motivating seminar or something he’s
gonna be a captain because he ain’t
gonna make it it’s only closing and
peace of mind I work so hard I need the
money well he’s not doing the one who
needs money Mar has three kids why we’re
in last place
it’s clearest dad because it’s an I in
me instead of a wheat and dust bug you
know we do we sooner thought when we got
a couple bites we lose fish this is
becoming a joke
yeah Paul wasn’t just your fishing
decisions really they seem to be looking
at everything and examining everything
that you’re doing from washing decisions
through your leadership to your
personality to your work ethic yeah how
do those accusations make you feeling
the grind it wears on you this this for
a livin is not for everybody we’re
actually all half crazy to do this for a
living to give up real jobs to do this
Feast of famine job for a living but
this is all I have I don’t know anything
else did you know that you were
upsetting the guys that much oh yeah
hell yeah and you did yeah well right an
expert at that the more you did it how
did you just not care you enjoy the
Austrade it no you don’t enjoy it you
try to get some sense out of it Tyler
you know when you’ve got these guys have
caught only three fish so far this year
clearly there’s some leadership issues
or some chemistry issues on that boat
how much of a role do you think that
plays in the lack of tuna cod or is it
vice versa well obviously I’ve been
there in the past I’ve had a tough year
it just seems you know they got a lot
going on there that they can’t get on
the same program it’s you know it’s the
different year the Paul’s coming way up
into Maine he’s coming in to different
areas and you know the rest of the fleet
we’re all catching fish and doing well
and it seems like their boat it’s an
absolute catastrophe Dave what do you
think why is Paul lagging behind with
this boat lurk it’s it’s a tough racket
right and they’re right when you have
and things aren’t going right and you’re
not making money everybody can get each
other’s nerves right and this is one of
the things that takes time as a skipper
to kind of learn that even when it’s his
worst as it gets
someone’s gonna you know keep it all
together
again and that’s a skill that’s learned
over time you know what I mean no matter
how bad it is you got to keep the you
know the upbeat pace and you know again
we go through it on up oh you don’t
think you are right right
you know I’ve hit my share of meltdowns
so maybe it’s just saying I change are
still recovering from the one a couple
of days ago yeah but mentally it’s it’s
it’s like that that’s a hard thing
especially when you’re not catching fish
because everybody has given a hundred
percent well let me ask you specifically
Paul me and Mauro says if you were using
your own money maybe you would act a
little bit differently on the boat you
think that’s true it in a way when you
have a boat all the expenses come out of
the fish so when you catch a fish you
take all the expenses out but there’s
still a big nut there we have to come
ahead of those expenses to make money
the time that we put in are you really
got to catch it really gonna make 50
grand to make money you know I mean cuz
it costs like you know 10 grand and
final five grand and bei hooks leaders
young good I think it’s a lot of stress
that weighs on you but if you let it get
to you it will ruin the whole season
tell her what do you think I’m not
sitting down here for five days at a
whack wanting my rod to bend over and
reel in a fish for an hour and then
break him off you got to use adequate
tackle and if you’re not using 200 220
pound test line you have no business
being out on the water oh cool you put
your 150 out you bent your rod you’ve
bought a fish for 10 or 15 minutes and
you bit through the lock you’ve never
used on Tracy
not without precautions everybody tried
has regretted it got a seat safety messy
using everything that I’ve used my whole
life has been one point too late yeah I
know but you’re using a j-hook you ain’t
gonna get the right hook up with that
Paul you you’ve told us so far in this
show not today but in a previous week
that you’ve bought your own boat for
next year you should be all ready to go
as a captain of your own boat yeah has
this season and some of the leadership
issues made you think rethink consider
how you want to do things differently
all the years I’ve been doing this you
learn what not to do it’s not so much
what to do what not to do and you should
end up pretty good morrow what advice
would you give one piece of advice on
leadership of a boat what would you
offer motivate yeah if you don’t
motivate
yeah you make everyone feel porta boat
like listen yeah for me and like for
like TJ and like elite captains and like
Dave I don’t know how he operates in his
boat but like I set my lines TJ I know
he sets his lines and like when you
start having confidence in a mate that
he could set the lines and you can be
comfortable with that and you and that’s
something that your maid is always
aspiring to do
you’re always aspiring to get to the
next level the next job or the next this
so if you can just motivate your crew by
hanging let’s haven’t start doing tasks
that they didn’t used to be able to do
like that they’ve learned and watched
you do you get every one of them you get
them excited you and Paul work together
in North Carolina last year you guys
made a pretty formidable team were there
challenging moments for you with Paul no
not so much you know pretty much down
here in Carolina I had been fishing down
here with the greenstick for quite a few
years pod have been down Green sticking
in like lot of seniors yeah and I think
he had trusted my ability down here I
even the year before and he kind of just
we rolled into it you know he let me run
my spread I did my thing and when Paul
is huge when the fish is on the line
that’s where Paul helps you he
understands away the fish move he
understands how to fight the fish I I
can run the boat or Paul can run the
boat I can fight the fish for Paul can
fight the fish it’s great to have Paul
in the boat because he can do every task
when we get up there and main and you
got a lot of different spots and a lot
of different things going on
picking the right ones hard and I think
at some times you know getting on a new
boat being a captain of a new boat
there’s a lot of pressures that come
with that and I think that’s why he’s
struggling this year all right well if
we learned anything from the latest
episode besides the intricacies of
fishing tackle it’s the teamwork is
everything and Paul’s team fell apart
Tyler struggled in his first trip out
after losing his right-hand man David
last week and meanwhile Marciano and his
tight-knit family crew were busy landing
three fish got family on the boat and
that seems to be working out really
really well for you you’re in second
place right now right behind fishing
vessel tuna.com let’s see what that
looks like
wait wait not yet then we get the happen
great under there
nice shot
good job yet we get up yet Joe set him
on the rod guns are on my left get a
fake good job get them tight get them
tight all right John well done a job
yeah oh yeah night fit well you and your
son and your nephew you guys have been
rolling right along what is the secret
pin so far look the secret is a good
team no matter who you are you need a
good team it just goes to show you you
know it’s not about the boat so much you
need an adequate bone but when you get a
good team things just fall into place
you know it again we had that overnight
right that’ll work together right and
live together you know Jays been on the
boat nine years now full-time then my
son has been coming since he was in pull
up so you know what I mean we know
what’s going on and those guys make it
happen for me without them I’ll be the
first to admit I wouldn’t catch half as
much you know without that good team
behind me there’s nothing well we
started off here talking about chemistry
and Tyler you were on top of the
leaderboard when the week began but now
trying to adjust to some new chemistry
with only one guy in your boat you had
two on the line you lost them both at
once
it wasn’t pretty definitely got a nice
one on keeper here Balraj
shake it double just look close oh my
god we need David
it’s a big one
pull the sucks
he’s off Tyler that one came off pulled
the hook better luck next time me and
without Tyler you end up falling from
first all the way down to third place
you know how big a role did David play
we have to ask now how important was he
in getting you to where you were so far
this year well I mean I went back to my
typical way of doing things and I
decided to hook more than one at once so
we had two on the line and you can’t
drive the boat and fight two fish at
once you know it won’t let one come
slack pulled a hook on him and end up
pulling hook on the other one you know
at least our line held together we
didn’t get shaped off because we’re
using adequate tackle but you know it’s
a bummer not having David on the boat
and it’s just next week we got to
regroup how much of how much of a
learning curve is there gonna be with
Travis you know this is a little bit of
a learning curve with Travis but the
bottom line isn’t the one thing I like
about him is he’s an angler and he
understands being finessed and he’s
caught a lot of fish and a lot of
different pound test lines and he can
understand how to fight a tuna fishing
you as long as you have a good angler
and you got a good startup package you
can mold him into the perfect thing and
I’m seeing that with Travis he wants to
learn he wants to be there he’s positive
he has my back no matter what and that’s
what matters well we saw another boat go
from 3 to 2 also this week we saw a
pretty nice party as well but Dave your
boat is gonna be down a man also as Joe
heads back to college how worried are
you that you’re now gonna have to go out
and do this with 2 again how important
was he to you get you where you are
right look he definitely was a huge help
especially two cuz always that my son
has been my good luck job it’ll be
important to get out there this week
with it’s when Joe’s gone my good luck
job Jay and I really gotta produce a
fish that’s gonna be everything that’ll
keep the momentum going if we strike out
I fear we’re just gonna fall behind
well we’ve seen things fall apart
certainly this week on the Kellyanne the
fleet’s four top boats however fishing
vessel tuna.com hard merchandise
pinwheel and hot tuna are all in a very
tight race Dave we’ve heard you guys
talk about it before your boat is often
viewed as sort of the what the the ugly
duckling of the foods at the humpty
dumpty yeah that’d be the same food
inside of the to the fleet they like to
call us you know
you guys are just limping around how
important in these final few weeks here
a little more than halfway done through
this season how important is it for you
guys to show the rest of this fleet that
it doesn’t matter how big or how
nice-looking the boat is you can still
get it done right we’ve showed them if
nothing else we’ve showed them to this
point you know that we can keep up with
anybody with the boat we got
I’m just hoping you know maybe we can
keep doing it but if we don’t you know
what even if it ends tomorrow we’ve hit
a great season on a personal level I’m
happy with that we caught some fish we
made some money I got to fish with my
son I could ask for nothing more when I
was 16 years old I was following the
hard merchandise around the ocean the
guy was catching fish like it was going
out of style seriously dave was catching
fish and he was the high liner in
Gloucester like three years in a row and
this guy can get it done and the fact
that he’s having such a hot year is
dangerous how does your game plan change
now going forward there’s only gonna be
two guys in the boat you want to try and
stay near the top what changes you and
Jamie so much is gonna change I’m just
gonna keep yelling it yelling at Jay
that’s catching fish every day they’ll
handle if we’re not catching fish I’ll
have a meltdown swearwords around now
you know it seems to have brought you
quite a bit of luck you know three fish
this week Tyler for you I mean you once
again you’re near the top of the
leaderboard not necessarily at the top
this week it was just a couple of years
ago that you won this whole thing how
important is it for you to show that
wasn’t a fluke yeah it definitely wasn’t
a fluke I mean I think I put enough fish
across a dock over the years even before
that to prove that I’m an adequate
fisherman and I can hang with these guys
you know the seasons got a lot left in
it and there’s a lot to come and I know
that Travis and I we’re going to get it
together we would catch a lot of fish
all right that’s all the time we’ve got
I want to thank all these guys captain
Paul Ebert for the Kellyanne Mauro de
Baca as well the owner of Kellyanne
captain Dave Marciano the hard
merchandise and of course captain Tyler
McLaughlin of the hidden wheel to catch
all of the Real Talk episodes you know
where to go nat geo TV comm slash Real
Talk we’ll be back again next week right
after the all new episode of wicked tuna
on National Geographic Channel that is
Sunday at 9:00
o’clock Marciano and toddler both going
to be back next week along with captain
Dave Guerrero of the fishing vessel
tuna.com and captain Paul Cheney of the
drama is going to be joining us as well
one captain is going to take a brave but
risky plunge into shark-infested waters
well another captain’s aggressive
behavior might cost him his mate
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