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An adventure of interactive art in the Tate Modern | Chris Hunt | TEDxPlymouthUniversity


hello good evening everyone my name’s

Chris I’m a creative technologist and I

have to start with a little bit of a

confession now this isn’t really a talk

about art and it’s not really a talk

about technology or interactivity so

normally when I do one of these things

I’d show you this slide with lots of

different technologies and I would talk

for about seven and a half hours

non-stop and I like this stuff I get

quite excited this isn’t any of those

talks this is a talk about making

something it’s a and I like using the

word adventure with my students when I’m

working with them or working with

clients as well getting them to think

about their own personal journeys they

might go through thinking how they

change how they evolve when they make

something where they make an

installation work or a bit of research

or even a TEDx talk what did they go

through what did they change when they

think of that so if you’ll indulge me

I’ll take you through an adventure I

went on with my group at Plymouth

University I dot and we were

commissioned by the Tate Modern for

their new opening for the opening of

their new extension to develop this is

where we are this was an installation

working with the Tay exchange and my

boss the wise old wizard Mike and and be

the creative director came along pulled

me in for a coffee and told me of this

big quest we were going to go on we were

gonna make a three and a half meter tall

interactive sculpture which would listen

to everything that was going on around

it it would understand what’s happening

at the Tay and what’s being said on

social media and it would reflect that

back into the space so it would start

lighting up it would change sounds it

would change behavior oh and by the way

you’re going to be able to walk up to it

and touch it and you’re gonna be able to

talk to it through a chatbot interface

and you could be able to feel it and

listen to it oh and by the way there’s

also going to be these robots that run

around outside it and run after people

okay quest accept it

let’s do this we’ve got the lists and

things so we start planning out and we

start figuring out what the team is and

start

modeling everything together so we start

building our sculpture out these polygon

tiles and with that plan with that idea

we take it down to TR to hand it over to

them and go make that bigger and lucky

they didn’t tell us to go away and

through a series of nice action shots

they built out our frame they created it

and gave us a space and gave us time

into r2 to start applying the technology

adding everything together and now we

start getting the fellowship together

now we start building the team with

Simon on the touch on the touch

environment Mike and Gary on the sound

and me in the middle middle of it with a

Raspberry Pi in the corner controlling

everything and doing all the AIS and

behaviors so we start building and

making this thing and we start gathering

into the tape modern bringing our stuff

with the van and the GoPros and you’ll

see the slides later and it’s all signed

to come together it’s all working it’s

all basically there but something’s not

right there’s a dragon that needs

slaying there’s something not quite with

it and it’s not the tape themselves it’s

not the clients because they’re looking

after us they’re keeping us fed they’re

bringing brilliant and it’s not the

technology because that’s working and

that’s responding to things that’s going

on so our sculpture the thing we make

made was starting to respond to

something that was going on outside and

we pulled out our phones we had to look

at Twitter and we realized what was

going on we were up the week this

happened I think you remember the Battle

of the tens where two boats of flotillas

started going and having a bit of a

shouting match each other that was being

picked up and reflected and along with a

protest and other things that were going

on we were starting to seeing okay this

is working so what’s the issue what’s

the problem here and it’s not so it’s

not those things and I’ve start to

thinking realize it’s actually our own

perfection that’s the dragon we need to

set the sleigh because in this space in

this time we’re not really getting this

opportunity again we’re at an opening of

a major new extension we’re here in

prime cap

space with a hundred and fifty thousand

people ready to walk up the space and

look at what we’re doing and it starts

to get oh it’s our anxiety

it’s our issues oh what’s going on here

okay so we need to start thinking you

know steam thinking what’s there and in

the story you would normally get in the

story in your adventure film you

probably get a bit of advice or a hint

at something that would take you through

to the end and for me my hint and bit of

advice was a conversation I had with Lee

Lee’s the Builder of the robot part of

this project so these were little robots

that ran around after the audience and

kind of ran them over but he started in

our minds they started at the start of

the project as being these really

complicated things they were gonna be

trapped in the space and were gonna have

some really interesting AI behaviors and

Lee kind of ditched all of that he made

them really simple he just made them an

Arduino some servers a really simple bit

of code and some foam batteries powering

them on and I decided to have a

discussion with there I said are you

sure this is not the thing we made this

is not the thing that we were agreeing

on and talking with him it clicked and

what he said to me was that you know

about the how complex this is you know

about everything that’s going on but

your audience don’t your audience don’t

know the these aren’t as technically

competent or technically difficult or as

advanced as you think they should be all

they know is there some things running

about on the floor as they come upstairs

and if one of the robots goes off – this

goes off and tries to go down the stairs

after someone you just pick it up bring

it back over and give it a nice telling

off you kind of just start performing

with the technology and kind of the way

you walk up and touch something or you

talk to the thing you’re building the

thoughts of the thing that’s there

you’re kind of filling in the gaps with

your own performance

it’s a little bit like how Steve Jobs

demo demonstrate that original iPhone he

was going through a very specific set of

circumstances but his performance were

there was the thing that carried it

through the thing that got people

excited even though it was just a

process

it was just the baser so with that we

start thinking okay let’s get this all

together let’s just make sure it works

and it’s robust and let’s use our own

performance let’s walk up and touch

things and invite people into the space

and we get there we get to the point

where it’s ready and it’s open and after

our week-long installation process we

can open we can open to the space we can

open to the stage and invite everyone

into this space now this thing this

thing we made was listening to people

you could touch it and it was following

people’s hands about and it was leaving

these messages and memories on social

media where people had walked up walked

up to and touch something and it set a

nice counterpoint to everything else

that was in the tape because while the

tape modern is a modern art gallery not

everything is very interactive or

digital so when you have a bunch of

people who have come to this new art

gallery opening and walking up the space

and walking into something and I’m

realizing oh I’m allowed to play with

this that’s something quite magical so

you invite them to come and touch and

you invite them to come and talk talk to

it or play around with it and it really

started to respond and get excited about

what was happening these little Boyd’s

these little characters that float

through the sculpture while they

slightly melted our unity programmer to

his brain didn’t really work after we

made him get that working in 3d these

little boys are just people’s thoughts

and emotions that are drifting through

this space and they’re affecting them

over all emotion of the sculpture so

when the lifts broke it kind of got

angry with us and the robots were using

were working with the children almost

performing with them as well bringing

them into a space making them excited

and of course because it’s an

interactive piece and there’s a nice

little very expensive LCD screen behind

the thing we’ve made doing the

interpretation and that’s not an

interactive touchscreen

and of course all the kids were running

up touching and making lovely brilliant

greasy smear marks on a very very

expensive LCD screen but then I started

thinking we’re coming to the end and we

get to we have to now start thinking

about packing up and reflecting on what

we’ve done and go at this point it’s the

journey back it’s a journey back to the

Shire with your changes in space changes

and thinking what’s the message I’m

going to bring back – to Plymouth – Ted

or something and here it starts to

become something different because the

thing itself is now packed up it was

only there for three days it’s now put

away it’s in some storage somewhere and

it’s not a thing anymore

so what’s the thing what’s the thing

that’s left behind the thing I created

the thing I got to work on and be a part

of and it’s not the metal work or the

code because that goes rusty or obsolete

I started to realize that all these

interactions these moments and memories

these exciting things were the things

that really mattered and I say I’m a

creative technologist and then I

realized what is the thing I’m creating

actually it’s not the technology it’s

not the are it’s the thing that’s left

over it’s the post it’s the memories

it’s the things that people the stick in

people’s mind and towards the end I’ll

show you these these two things that

resonated with me and stuck will stick

with me forever

is when it responded to someone asking

about love and it changed its sound it

changed its lighting and really just

fired people’s eyes up and baby Otis

relaxing not unlike after I’ve done

after working on this for a couple of

months just lying underneath it watching

people’s thoughts and be people’s social

media flying past them and maybe that’s

the thing I bring back maybe that’s the

thing

after you cleared out the space after

you’ve moved on what you’ve left behind

is those moments and memories

and those are what sticking stick with

people and those are the things your

engineering the things you’re creating

if you’re making an app you’re

connecting people to other people if

you’re making a website you’re providing

a service but you’re making things

happen you’re giving people emotions and

memories and things that will stick with

them for the rest of their life and I

hope that’s something you can have take

with you after today and thank you very much

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