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The Story of Amida Care | Chuck Lief | TEDxWashingtonSquare


good morning at Naropa we begin classes

and meetings other events of note with a

bow as a way of settling ourselves and

also showing some respect to the people

that we’re about to engage with so

you’re welcome to join me I can’t do

anything without starting with the bow

its kind of now part of who I am so

please join the few wheels Thanks I

became an AIDS activist and care

provider by accident I realized that

most of the meaningful moments of my

life post professional and personal were

accidental that I think for me is the

definition of what it means to be a

social entrepreneur I’m not sure that’s

textbook or if the business school down

the road would teach it that way but

that’s the way that I’ve looked at it I

became a social and political activist

when I was young I was a teenager in

Cleveland at age 16 I managed to take a

semester off from high school to work on

a political campaign to help Carl Stokes

become the first african-american mayor

of the northern American city right

after that successful campaign I had

what was a politically unsuccessful but

pretty meaningful opportunity to work

for the Eugene McCarthy presidential

campaign which took me to Chicago to the

infamous convention in 1968 where I

started out living in the Hilton Hotel

actually as a 17 year old with the

national campaign staff but ended up for

the last half of the convention on the

streets with the tens of thousands of

demonstrators who had arrived in Chicago

to bear witness to a corrupt political

system and I have to say that I felt

much more at home on the streets than i

did in the hilton still the case i think

for the most part at 19 at brandeis

university i was a member of students

for a Democratic Society SDS for those

of you who can date yourself fighting to

end the war in Vietnam it was at that

point that I realized that while my

social justice passion

was strong that I was feeling uneasy

with who I was becoming as a human being

as I was becoming a more of an adult if

only mindfulness and awareness practice

had been invented then I would have I

might have been able to do something

about it but what did happen which was

typical maybe of another accident is

that my Jewish Marxist and now Zen

professor at Brandeis mentioned to me

that there was a Tibetan a guy named

chögyam trungpa rinpoche who himself

was only 10 years from having escaped

from the political turmoil in Tibet who

was beginning to teach in the West and

that what was interesting was that his

teaching was very pared down at that

point to work with meditation or

contemplative practices came with a lot

of other bells and whistles so there was

lots of there’s lots of chanting there

was lots of dancing which is not

something that I was so great at fairly

foreign there was a lot of non English

which made it very difficult but in the

case of trungpa rinpoche who became my

teacher in 1970 and who I worked with

until his death in 1987 his teaching was

in English and his work was very much in

the world first book in 1969 was called

meditation in action and that actually

says it all that there was a way to

actually create develop a contemplative

practice to work on issues of

mindfulness awareness and compassion and

also to be in the world and to be

engaged in a world that was suffering

and in need of healing so that was kind

of the background that ultimately

brought me in the early 90s to yonkers

new york just up the road as the

president of the grayston foundation a

nonprofit social enterprise that worked

in the areas of homelessness we built

hundreds of units of housing for

homeless families we have child care

centers we had an economic development

projects and we built an hiv/aids health

center and housing program aids today is

still in

epidemic I think we have to remind

ourselves of that yes it’s changed to

some extent it’s a chronic disease now

more than an acute disease it isn’t the

death sentence that it was in the 80s

and the 90s the reality is however that

there are millions of people around the

world who are still struggling with this

particular disease and as an epidemic

carried some of the sort of common

elements that other epidemics had that

basically disproportionately impacted

people who lack secure housing who

lacked access to health care who had

problems with food security those sorts

of things but it also was a very

different sort of epidemic in that when

people years or centuries before

contracted smallpox for example they

weren’t typically blamed for their

condition but in the case of hiv/aids

what happened was or at least many of us

found was that lifestyle and morality

actually became the disease and HIV

became the delivery vehicle people were

actually blamed for their own condition

and that was the the fundamental

attitude that was held universally by

many many people now the reality is that

there are caregivers who set aside any

judgment and provided care its as

population of people who were struggling

with this with this disease they were

doing that care within a dysfunctional

system however the people that we worked

with for example use the emergency room

as the primary gateway to healthcare now

as opposed to no health care at all the

emergency rooms seem pretty great on the

other hand for any of you have had the

opportunity to be in an ER for any

reason you understand that if that’s

your primary gateway to care the

dehumanizing elements are just all over

the place so we knew that there was a

problem that was a question of what we

could do about that new york state

decided in the 90s that it was spending

tens of millions of dollars on providing

aids healthcare and wasn’t seeing either

healthcare results and certainly seeing

huge expenses and made a decision that

people living with AIDS low income

people living with AIDS should enter

into the managed care system now we were

able to argue we and other non

profits for a long time that the

conventional managed care systems ones

that are HMOs that are still around

today we’re really not set up in any way

to be able to address the complexity of

the disease that people living with AIDS

had because after all they had both HIV

disease but also in many many cases had

issues of mental illness of substance

use and so there was a sort of broad

struggle of a number of things that they

were dealing with including homelessness

and other sort of non-medical if you

will conditions the state agreed for a

while and then said well why don’t we

try something we’re going to issue a

request for proposals to create

something new a new kind of HMO a

special needs plan or costs nip and

basically see if we can build something

from scratch using Medicaid resources

and there were hundreds of millions of

dollars of those resources to do

something in a different way now the

state’s view was that the big hospital

systems were going to propose the snips

that would be successful because after

all that was the system and that was

where the care was being given but they

made a decision that seven nonprofits

graistan being one could come together

and be invited to be the respondents to

this RFP as well the reality was they

didn’t think it was going to work but

the optics played well in Albany because

all of the legislators in the Department

of Health concise e were giving

community-based organizations that

apparently know this population better

than the big hospitals they’re giving

them a chance to step up we decided to

come together and actually respond to

that invitation now we didn’t know much

about running an insurance company but

we figured that we built a homeless

family housing development for example

I’d have to find twenty different

sources of funding that’s a whole other

story about whether or not that’s really

an effective way to deal with the issue

of homeless mythos that was the reality

we were also becoming increasingly

socially social entrepreneurs our

partners at housing works that some of

you may know have run thrift stores

throughout New York City and have a

bookstore cafe just down the road that

I’m sure many of you know well in the

case of graistan we have a bakery and I

keep saying we

now even though I’ve been gone for 20

years because that’s the nature of

that’s what happens when you get into

this world Grayson has a bakery hires

chronically unemployed people from

yonkers if you’ve ever eaten Ben &

Jerry’s fudge brownie ice cream or fudge

brownie yogurt you’ve helped contribute

to what is today a ten-million-dollar

social enterprise in Yonkers that is

made i figured last night 120 million

pounds of brownies that’s a whole other

conversation about whether that’s a good

product but nevertheless but we figured

we were actually able to look at

creating this insurance company as well

in 2003 a Medicare the HMO that I’m

talking about was licensed and we began

to do business ah the first year we had

60 members about eight hundred thousand

dollars in revenue this was an insurance

company and I’m sure most of you are not

insurance company executives but

probably could figure out that for the

amount of money that wouldn’t buy a

two-bedroom co-op probably anywhere in

New York City that was not a sustainable

model for an insurance company but as

tenacious nonprofits that we were we

kept going I was the CEO of a me to care

for a while my cash flow management

often involved my taking the checks that

were supposed to go to the doctors that

we were working with and putting it in

my desk drawer and forgetting where it

was for a couple of weeks until we had

some more cash in in hand that sort of

thing today a Medicare is serving 6200

people in New York City is a 325 million

dollar social enterprise and what’s most

important is it’s having a real impact

on the health care outcomes of the

people that is serving when we open the

doors we decided that we did not want to

create just a slightly better insurance

company we didn’t want something that

was a little bit improved from the

existing system so we had a certain

number of demands if you will or

requests as the state put it one was

that we could take a look at non health

related causes of illness and so for

example we believe that homelessness was

very much a symptom of P

i HIV disease and that not addressing

homelessness and not addressing the

issues that are come from that would

mean that we were losing an opportunity

to really address the broader health

care needs of our clients and so we were

able to start using Medicaid dollars to

actually provide the kind of case

management that would find housing for

people that would find child care that

would find security we asked our doctors

who were in the network that we put

together to uh meet new clients in a way

that they were not used to historically

so certainly they got their healthcare

history there at medical history but we

also asked them to talk about things

like experience of domestic violence

experience of unemployment and poverty

because again the view being that unless

we knew the full picture of who we were

serving it would be impossible for us to

actually bring about reasonable health

care outcomes and more most important i

think and maybe relevant to our

conversation today is that we also said

that there are other non traditional

therapies that we think actually makes

sense for this population because this

is a group of people that we felt needed

to come together to be humanized to come

together in community and to have access

to the kinds of resources that frankly

we privileged people easily could access

but for the most part was completely

foreign to any of the people that we

were serving in our HMO and so we were

also able to use our resources for art

therapy and music therapy and dance

therapy and importantly to many of you

for yoga and meditation uh and that was

basically something that was completely

new to the population that we were

working with but created the kind of

community that is resulted today in very

positive health outcomes for the

immediate care members and without

getting into lots of details the one

statistic that’s worth noting is that

the average member of a Medicare today

who has entered into care is showing a

seventy-five percent drop

in the amount of virus that they’re

carrying in their body because of the

fact that they’ve now got a

comprehensive approach to caregiving and

that’s a big deal with lots and lots of

ripple effect and so the model has

proven itself in in that way amita care

is an insurance company that does not

look to say no to claims which is very

atypical of insurers amita carrots

claims managers are out there to

encourage care providers to make claims

by actually providing real service and

by doing so um engaging with the client

with the member in a way that’s

completely new from any way that they’ve

been they’ve engaged before as a company

in Medicare is also engaging in the same

way we have members on the board of

directors of the HMO so people living

with AIDS sitting at the board table

because we don’t think that wisdom is

limited to the privileged people that

are actually in charge of these

organizations the member advisory

councils advise on policy on new

programming and the reality is that they

are coming together as a group of people

who have now been empowered I’d like to

just show you a couple of people

involved with immediate care hear their

voices they can say it much more

[Music]

my jug use increased all I want to do is

get high you know so that’s what I did

when you feel alone you have no one to

turn to with yourself now when you find

out there’s other people I care about

you that makes a big difference they’re

free and they’re a great way to get

together have fun and enrich your life

in body mind and spirit yoga believes

that our body has a tremendous capacity

to heal it’s really helped in my just my

eight allowing me to keep up with

day-to-day activities they will accent

very um challenging and I can’t afford

to to go to a yoga class like that

unless it i made a caregiving a

opportunity to cover their yoga class is

raising hope it gave me a little more

confidence in myself it’s a good feeling

to to create suddenly know I had this

time it’s a fun activity to do things

are and enjoy yourself can be

intimidating to really open up our don’t

have to talk you could just create the

dancing makes me feel free free of my

illness being free of everyday life and

stress

[Music]

uplifting it makes to feel alive one of

the most important aspects of my class

is that you feel welcoming that there’s

a place for you makes me feel very good

at my body’s lose its moving parts and

listening to the drums and beat and Abby

please awesome probably could have just

limited the whole session to that I

think you get you get the point I will

close in saying that the exciting

opportunity i think is that there’s a

recognition that HMOs like a medicare

actually can play a very important role

in the broader reformation of our health

care system and it’s being looked at now

as a model to deal with behavioral

health with aging with other chronic

diseases a long way to go there’s much

to learn about what to do right but the

tenacity I think of the people that have

been running this organization now for

the last 13 years built on mission and

compassion and a lot of stubbornness I

think is something to be looked at and which we can be quite proud of thanks

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