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TRIBE | Gabe Penner | TEDxLangleyED


well a few years ago I was at the

funeral of a man that had died suddenly

and I remember walking into the church

that it was at and you walk in and there

are pues and everybody’s sitting in

there and there’s a certain level of

order you know what I’m talking about

we’ve all experienced a funeral I’m sure

and there’s a certain level of order in

the way that things are done the family

sits at the front and people would get

up and would speak and do their thing

and afterwards I remember talking to

this man’s Widow and I remember her

saying to me I’m so sorry I just I can’t

I can’t keep it together it’s it’s been

a really rough day for me and I remember

thinking wait at what point did this

become something that you should be

sorry for like at what point did you

feel obligated to apologize for this and

the thing is as I’ve actually

experienced this more than once this is

a common thing i’m sure you have

experienced this also what it makes me

wonder is when did we as a society

forget how to move through grief i have

another friend whose sister lives in sri

lanka and they’re from sri lankan her

sister still lives there and she is what

I like to call a competitive crier and

what happens is when someone dies they

go and they hire this individual to come

and be a part of the funeral procession

ille and this person will come and they

cry with the family and with everybody

else because the more Criers that you

have at your funeral the better your

funeral is which I don’t know why this

matters to the person that’s already

but as you can tell it’s competitive so

what happens is everybody gets together

and they cry and she’s a very good crier

so incidentally she gets hired a lot and

uh this type of thing actually happens

in a lot of other places in the world

doesn’t really happen in North America

but I’m sure that we’ve all turned on

the TV and seeing someone in some other

country that dies and we will see

sometimes they’ll take the body and

they’ll just carry it through the

streets right it’ll take a body and

they’ll be carrying this body of this

person that’s a great leader or that’s

whatever whoever it may be and they’ll

be carrying this person to the streets

people will be throwing themselves in

the body and I’m sure that you like me

all of us have at some point seeing this

and thought that’s a little bit crazy

pull yourself together have a little bit

of class right but I would actually

argue that this is a much more natural

the thing is is that many times what we

do is we medicate instead of mitigate

and when you say the word medicate

probably one of the first things that

comes to mind is medicine are you with

me alright you think medicine you think

well there’s a pill for this my arm

hurts okay we have a pill for that um

the thing is is many times when we

experience grief or we experience

suffering or we experience something

that is uncomfortable we simply turn to

medicating instead of mitigating there’s

always a pill there’s always a drink

there’s always some type of food there’s

always a person there’s always some form

of entertainment there’s always some

type of religious service you can go to

you know what I’m talking about right

it’s easy to just gloss over it instead

of mitigating whereas mitigating is when

you actually hold this thing that has

happened in your hand and you say what

do I do with it how do I move through it

and you move through it and you

hopefully have a community of people

they can move through it with you and

you actually assess the damage and you

move through it

as opposed to what we’ll just gloss over

we’re just going to try and move

throughout we’re just gonna try and keep

ourselves together like this woman at

this funeral I’m so sorry i can’t keep

it together i have a friend that says

sometimes she says sometimes I wonder if

we suffer from too much of a good thing

and it makes me think about this thing

that Viktor Frankl said the great Viktor

Frankl and one of the things that he

says is that between stimulus and

response there is this space and in that

space is our power to choose our

response and in our response lies our

growth and our freedom anybody here want

to experience a little bit of freedom

anybody here one I experience a little

bit growth when you’re going through

something incredibly painful anybody

here one I experience having someone

that just says yeah that’s terrible when

you’re going through something

incredibly terrible this creating of

space that every single one of us I

believe is called to and can do and has

the opportunity to do I think is best

exemplified by a story that I heard

about the Iroquois nation and there’s

this book written by Sebastian Junger

and he talks about it it’s actually by

the same name of my talk which is tribe

and it’s this story and the what would

happen is the Roy nation all the

different tribes that were part of this

nation when they would have warriors

that they would send off to war they

would gather together and they would do

this whole ceremony and they would go

through and do this whole thing before

they sent off their warriors and here’s

the thing is it wasn’t just the warriors

and it wasn’t just the Warriors families

but every single person in the tribe

that would participate in this and then

when they would come back the end those

well those that would come back would

participate in this same thing again

this exact same ceremony and they did

this because they had this

fundamental understanding that

everything that had happened everything

that they had experienced also affected

the rest of the tribe that everything

that had affected the tribe had also

affected them that there was this unity

that this whole thing that had happened

had affected them together as a tribe

and so they would go through it and

what’s so crazy is that there are

actually papers that have been written

on this and studies that have been done

these tribes actually experienced far

less cases of PTSD in some cases none

from battle and mental health issues

were quite low and people had better

community the inverse of this is uh it’s

a story about a friend of mine i like to

call nasty neighbors because i think we

all have that neighbor that talks too

much you know i’m talking about that

person that you’re outside your

gardening you want it to be quiet and

this person always somehow seems to be

outside when you come outside and wants

to talk to you about my goodness who

knows what and you just want to work on

the petunias two of you here that

actually work on their garden so this

friend of mine he’s telling me one day

he says yeah my neighbor ah was talking

me the other day and he said he tells me

his neighbor came up to him and said I I

just found out that my wife has been

cheating on me she’s been having an

affair and I don’t know what to do and

he kind of has this like brush it off

like yeah okay right

and when he was telling me this story he

tells me he says he says I thought why

the hell are you sharing your crap with

me I got out of my own crap and here’s

the thing i totally get discretion I

totally get timing right there’s a

timing for these things and there’s also

a time there’s a place to write and

here’s the thing i would say that this

what this neighbor did was a bid this

was him saying i don’t know how to move

through this incredibly painful

experience and i just want someone to

say yeah yeah this is this is painful or

someone to say yeah my sister went

through divorce yeah or even I can’t

imagine what you’re going through is

there anything I can do changes the

whole story it changes the whole story I

would argue that we function much more

as a society and the society tends to

function in a way that views us as this

one big kind of thing I wouldn’t even

say organism because really it’s just

society do you ever hear that people say

things like oh yeah well nobody likes

that like people say like it was

something okay like Justin Bieber you

ever hear people are like yeah nobody

likes Justin Bieber and I’m like well

he’s selling out so obviously somebody

likes him you don’t I mean obviously

somebody somewhere if not just a few

people okay here’s the thing a tribe

functions in this way a tribe functions

in a way that is something has affected

me and it also affects you something has

affected all of us and it’s also

affected each and every one of us and I

would say that if we could learn to say

me to just say me too when we can don’t

lie

because that’s not good but if we could

say me too in these moments that we

would have stronger greater communities

that we actually might have communities

with greater forgiveness greater loving

greater healing anybody here feel like

they could use a little bit of healing

some more grace then we can simply do

this this might be one of the keys to

greater community entering into the

suffering of others simply by trying to

say me too thank

you [Applause]

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