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Corruption & Political Salaries | Rwitwika Bhattacharya | TEDxTughlaqRd


what happens when you first think of how

the government delivers public services

let’s just think of what happens when we

think of what is the government doing

for us think of images what we think of

is broken roads we all travel by them we

think of the potholes like you know like

a wonderful MC said we look at the rest

and save up a talk you hear we think of

a public education system I mean how

many of us really would consider sending

our children to a public school because

we think that they are devoid of

teachers and desks and benches we think

of public hospitals and you know unless

we really need to most of us don’t go

there because we think it’s overcrowded

and and the fact that there aren’t beds

there are nurses that aren’t doctors and

if we think of our sanitation system we

just think of a pile of crap I mean

that’s that’s what comes to mind

so do none of us in this room is it

surprising that we’re not exactly

content with what the government is

doing in terms of public services so the

question is what’s the problem I mean

where is the issue what is essentially

stopping the government from doing this

and most of us are first thought that we

come up with is that we’re a poor

country we do not have enough money or

resources to be able to build good roads

to be able to build good infrastructure

hospitals schools but the fact is that

that’s not entirely true the fact is it

will not a poor country if you just look

at the central government budget and the

central government budget is often

matched with the state government budget

in terms of programs and welfare schemes

you’ll see any program 19 mm

look at our health mission our national

health mission which is divided into

urban and rural mission and what you’ll

notice is there’s a lot of money that

exists in the system the second thought

which we have is that potentially there

is corruption there are leakages so what

if there is money they clearly are going

in the wrong hands and perhaps that’s

one of the big issues and there is some

truth to that

there is in fact some amount of leakages

which happens but that’s not the only

issue which comes up so essentially if

we look at what is going on we in 2012

we started on

this journey we wanted to see what is

going on at the ground level what is

happening why is public service not

being delivered and we reached out to a

Member of Parliament an MP from Barak

bush and our thinking was that look MPs

are usually the first person that you

would the the electorate goes towards

the citizen goes to to say there’s this

issue and so the MP from bericht will

essentially told us that in jute mills

which is a major part of his

constituency the workers will suffering

major health concerns such major health

concerns that it was frightening for him

every time he went back to the

constituency and had a discussion with

them so obviously we were curious and

and a team of us went into the ground to

see what was happening now the jute mill

essentially employed anywhere between 30

to 50 thousand people in that community

and when you walked into the jute mill

if you think that pollution in Delhi is

bad this was about 10 times worse you

could see mattered in the air what you

were breathing in and essentially you

could see it was very obvious why people

were suffering from respiratory diseases

so we did it as report we tried to

understand what’s going on really and

what we noticed was about 90 percent of

all workers in the jute mill were either

at high risk of respiratory disease or

already had one we moved on to figuring

out the solution clearly there’s a

problem we know that it’s affecting a

lot of people the MP is clearly wanting

to bring in a solution what do we do

what we noticed was that there is

someone called a jute mill commissioners

who’s there at a state level now this is

a very minor fact which most of us would

not know but the fact is that the jute

mill commissioners in this case

essentially sits on a pot of fun which

is responsible for the welfare of the

workers of the factory workers we went

ahead and we held health camps we went

ahead and we did Street Theatre we went

ahead and tried to create awareness

around the fact that it was unsafe to be

in the factory ground without a mask if

you are essentially breathing in that

air that’s not good for you as we’re

doing this we realized that there is

something else which exists there is a

national government scheme which

essentially enrolls workers so that you

can get insurance and be treated in a

public order private hospitals so one of

the big initiatives which we had was

enrolling all of these 30,000 workers in

one of the factories into the programs

now that alone was transformational

because now you had workers most of whom

did not even know that such a program

existed come in and work in the system

what this essentially points out in

terms of our framework is that there are

some gaps which exist and specifically

there are three gaps which exist the

first is that oftentimes there is a

knowledge deficit a bureaucrat a dude

male commissioner sitting in some

faraway district in West Bengal might

not necessarily know what is going on

they might not necessarily know how many

people are enrolled and what the ground

realities are and essentially there is a

need to connect those two points there

is a knowledge gap which exists there is

a gap which exists on understanding

there are some 74 schemes that exist to

support the poor and what we’re trying

to do essentially is create that

awareness and that knowledge about what

are the different pieces which are there

the second piece piece which exists is I

understand what the problem is but again

that mentality of we’re a poor country

we don’t have enough money where are the

resources where some money going to be

pulled out of being able to create that

Segway and to say this is where these

sources can be pulled out of and

pointing out specifically where the

money resources lie is is a big piece

which we’re working on solving and the

third piece which we’re working on is

actually having people on the ground

currently we have the bureaucrats we

have what are the executing capacity is

one-fifth of that of let’s say compared

to the United States we are very

understaffed on the ground our

decision-makers are very few when our

work is huge especially considering each

districts gets allocated significant

amount of resources and yet there’s so

much work to do that all we do is

disperse money hoping that if we get

done so then we started thinking about

that this is good and fine so we have

people who go into the ground who

connect the right hand to the left hand

who figure out that there is a

a problem come up with a solution and

mobilize resources this is

understandable there is a gap which is

fulfilled but what do you do in the

longer term essentially how do you

figure out that in the longer term we

need to have the backend system within

the government administration to be able

to sustain these models of understanding

what is happening on the ground and

create corrective measures so we tried

something new in Balasore which is a

district in Orissa essentially in Bala

soil what we said was what if we had a

back-end dashboard what if we had a

real-time platform for district

officials where I could as a district

official see at a household level that

these are the schemes and programs that

this family has access to and this is

where the resources are coming in from

and are they matching so for example

there is a yogena which essentially

allows for people to build houses this

is very big in Orissa the assumption

that a district magistrate would have is

that so much money is coming in clearly

they are going to be a lot of people who

are accessing the scheme but I don’t

necessarily know if that’s true what we

did was we essentially went ahead and at

a household level went and asked the

question how many people have access to

the scheme and went ahead and then

provided a real-time geotag platform to

say okay these are the number of houses

who do have them and this is who doesn’t

have them and by the way this is how

much money you have available so what we

did was we try to connect the whole

platform right now we have a team of

people who are working there and it’s

the little things right it’s it’s the

going ahead and realizing that there’s a

healthcare center that needs to be

really done and rebuilding it it’s going

ahead and holding information session

with farmers groups and saying that this

is how you can get money out of the

system and this is what you need to do

it’s connecting the dots so what does

that mean for us what does it really

telling us what is the main takeaway

today the fact of the matter is that we

think that a government is too big a

bureaucracy is too bloated and the fact

that we don’t have enough systems or

enough money in fact the opposite is

true in each case the fact is that a

bureaucracy is too lean

we don’t have enough government support

that needs to be created the fact is

that we have enough money to be able to

create crown level impact what we need

is you

what we need is smart engaged citizens

to be involved in the process of

governance and nation-building so as

we’re celebrating you think more

actively about how you can be a part of

this nation building process because we

really need you in governance thank you [Applause]

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