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Back to the Future | Pradeep Chakravarthy | TEDxChennai


I’m gonna talk to you about going back

to the past to look at the future and I

know today there’s a lot of people who

say you know we got to do this for the

future we’ve got to do that for the

future but I’m gonna actually say listen

the future will take care of itself look

at the past differently look at the

present differently and the future will

take care of itself by itself so that’s

what I’m going to do but and I’m gonna

take you on a step back to the past but

to go on this journey of the past I need

to ask you some embarrassing questions

but don’t worry it’s not about that

secret kiss that you had in the school

nor is it about that math test that you

bunked by sitting at home and watching

TV

none of those embarrassing things all

have you studied history textbooks like

this right yeah how many of you remember

reading these history textbooks and

asking yourself why is this relevant for

me I’m gonna be a software engineer I’m

gonna be a management consultant I’m

gonna be an engineer or a doctor why do

I need to know which King died when why

do I need to know which battle was

fought when really why do I need to know

all this stuff right normally was it not

relevant for me it just didn’t make

sense

but this contrast that with what it

could have actually been if you were

standing over there I mean wouldn’t it

have been an assault on the senses right

there was something for you to see there

was something for you to hear maybe the

the victorious King had a banquet in the

evening so there must have been

something for you to taste and drink

they must have been fragrances

everything would have been there

and yet you’re wondering why is this

relevant for me not only that every time

in our history textbooks we were reading

about battles right and there was

violence and blood and all of that and

today if I take out the paper of switch

on the TV I get more of it so I’m

wondering really what’s the point of

history I’m learning about stuff that’s

not relevant and I’m looking at stuff

which is still happening the same

there’s still blood and gore on the

streets really why’s is important at all

which is why this statement becomes very

important it sure looks like we’ve

ignored history

and we seem to be condemned to repeat it

all the time but never fear I am there

and I am here to give you a solution

that can change the world right and

believe me the solution is far easier

than this dance that all of you guys

just did because it just takes a

different perspective of the way you

look at history if you want his feet to

be relevant for you stop looking at it

are a series of episodes that have

happened over a period of time if you

start looking at it as something where

two people with very different needs are

fighting over the same thing it becomes

very relevant for you because our needs

that we have are universal and they are

eternal you may think that hey what do I

have in common with Rajaraja Chola

whatever I have in common with the guy

who’s gonna go and settle down in Pluto

5,000 years from now your needs will be

the same and that’s what I’m gonna look

at we all as human beings from the day

we were born till the day we die as

human beings from the the earliest

Neanderthal man to the guy who’s gonna

go and settle down in moon how many ever

thousands of years later are gonna have

the same three sets of needs the need to

survive food water and a shelter over

the head the need for support I want

people to be with me I want love I need

enrichment in my own life and the need

for security I need to feel safe this is

my identity yes I am another human being

in this room but I am also different and

these needs do not change so if we look

at history from the point of needs

rather than the from the point of time

then it becomes something very very

different for us to actually change the

way we can look at the future the source

for this is something that I’m going to

take which you can see in little temples

like these and you can also see them in

bigger temples like these but what I’m

actually talking about is the writing on

the wall

you heard this proverb writing on the

wall it means we often tend to ignore

the obvious I think that quote was right

on for this TED talk it almost looks

like it was for this TEDx talk what it

basically means is more than a thousand

temples in Tamilnadu have writing on the

walls like this and this is not a part

of your history textbook so don’t go

bother and check of them they’re not in

the textbooks and I hope there will be

because every one of this writing on the

wall has zero percent to do anything

with mythology or with religion zero

percent and this is like a big idea that

I’m going to push across in this talk

zero percent have anything to do with

God’s with goddesses with scenes with

mythology

none of that every letter on the walls

of these temples and then many of them

are about social economic legal and

political decisions that were taken in

the community and were put there on

stone if we look at these inscriptions

then our way of looking at history

becomes very very relevant for us in the

present and for us in the future I’m

going to take you to this temple through

what you is not very far off from Madras

not very far off from where we’re

speaking and it is by the way in a road

called the east coast road today

thousand years back the east coast road

existed and it was called Watauga Peru

body this was the road that linked the

chola provinces in the south to the

chola provinces in the north so the east

coast road that you travel every day

it’s a whole lot older than you thought

it was but coming back to throw to you

one of the walls in the throat your

temple has a long inscription like this

and you’ve got to remember that whatever

we expect from the government today is

what the temples provided in the old

days how many of you know what the word

for temple in Tamil is Covell right ko

Alam cone is not a god ko is king so our

temples even the word of it is actually

the house of the king not the house of

the God so every one of these

inscriptions are about recordings of

whatever the government would want to

record so coming back to us

oriental vote you’re one of the things

that we do to the government is to pay

taxes and they did that in the old days

and the temples used to collect taxes on

behalf of the king at one point and one

of the committees at the temple had

which is democratically elected by the

way was the committee which tested the

firmness and the fineness of gold that

people deposited as taxes into the

coffers at some point of time thousand

one hundred years back the chola king

had an audit and when the auditors came

to the committee they found out that

what the committee actually had was very

different from what they should have had

right not very uncommon these days and

the papers as well right so that’s what

they found out and then what they did we

don’t know how long it actually took but

it should have taken not more than three

to six months in the three to six months

they seem to figure out that the temple

pond varriya more the gold collection

committee was a guilty party they took

the private property of the corrupt

officials auctioned it out took the

principal and the interest that they had

they’d secret it away took that money

gave the rest of them gave the rest of

the money back to the community to that

group and said here’s your money back

leave the community and not only that in

some similar instances and other temples

we find that those committee members

relatives would be barred from holding

offices of public interest in the local

community as well absolutely compare

this with the speed and the efficiency

with her with how we deal with corrupt

officials today our second example is

from this beautiful shiva and vishnu

temple next to each other into the mayan

theorem has a small sleepy village that

times completely forgotten between

mother and poo the quartet but the two

temples have a very interesting

inscription because it’s the same

inscription copied on both the walls of

the temple and in fact in one temple the

this inscription actually erases and

earlier and far more important and rarer

inscription on musical notations and why

was this inscription so important

around 13th century or little there

abouts there were two sexes of the same

community who were bitterly fighting

with each other I mean they were like

breaking idols flinging them into the

river there was blood on the streets

literally there was blood on the streets

there was massive turmoil in the in the

town and the pandya king who was ruling

that place just found it too hot to

handle see he called voice Allah or a

Karnataka general to come over and the

general did something very unusual he

split the town into half he built a wall

in the middle if you had property and

water sources here you were asked to

move to that side and you got the same

amount and vice versa and he did that

this was on the seventh of May in 1246

of 1249 right long time back today

though if you go to this town none of

those communities lived there the lands

have changed many many hands after that

most of the water sources are not even

there anymore and that wall is not to be

seen it’s definitely a temple asset of a

village the time is completely forgotten

so what really was the point of building

that wall and doing all this partition

not much a third example is one of the

most common inscriptions that you find

across temples in Tamil Nadu and our own

kapaleeswarar temple and and the drivel

akkanee temple also have copies of this

kind of an inscription so in those days

devotees would come to the temple and

they’d say they’ll tell the temple

authorities hey we want to give some

kind of a donation to the temple so that

our names are remembered forevermore and

usually they would give a lamp like this

stone lamp like this a temple will say

thank you very much for this lamp but

listen because of you giving us this

lamp we’re actually going to be spending

a lot more money on the oil in the weeks

it doesn’t make sense

so the devotee would then come and say

FairPoint

I want the lamp to burn for two hours a

day or 24 by seven whatever they would

mention that right let’s say two hours a

day and then they would say listen if

the lamp has to burn for two hours a day

this is the amount of ghee or clarified

butter that we need to light the lamp

and the devotee would therefore give

goats cows or buffaloes

interestingly it was either 96 goats 12

cows or 6 buffaloes why would you you

just need this much of ghee why would

you give so many animals hold on to that

and I’ll come back to that temple will

say thank you very much for the for the

goats or the cows but we don’t run a

dairy we’re on a temple doesn’t make

sense you’re putting more work on our

plate so they will then appoint someone

else who will take care of these animals

on your behalf and who will give the

temple that little quantity of of ghee

to the temple to burn your lamp the

number of hours that you wanted to burn

whatever and this many animals generate

a lot of milk and a lot of butter so the

rest of the stuff he could sell but this

he had to give

now here comes a trick this man who will

look after the devotee stuff would never

be from the same village the temple

isn’t and this just doesn’t make sense

why would you want this guy to live in

another village when transports not as

easy today I mean even today it takes me

30 minutes to cross the road sometimes

but it was even worse those days right

it doesn’t make sense the reason that

they did that was if those goat herds or

whatever they kept living in this temple

that village will prosper not the

villages around them so today in India

we find wealth concentrated in the

cities in thousand years back they

thought very differently they said every

action of ours should make me wealthy

which should also make another person

wealthy and every village will be done

with this so you’re saying ok that’s

great

absolutely and you’re saying that’s

great for the for the goat herd but what

about the rest of the people the animals

our account as well the reason that you

go I gave so many animals because cows

that had just been carved could not be

milked animals which had got older could

not be milked the same animal could not

be milked the same over a continuous

period of time so the welfare of the

animal was taken care of the welfare of

the person was taken care of the need of

the devotee was taken care of the need

of the temple was also taken care of

with that one lamp that you gave there

was a whole economy thriving in another

village and he

was more to it every ever so often the

temple will do an audit in the audit if

there are more goats than the devotee

gave that guy can sell it and make money

if there are less goats he has to

reimburse them as well and this was the

kind of system that function so now

coming back and looking at what how our

model works for this it’s very often

difficult to solve a problem by thinking

at the same level we got a kind of

abstract this to a to a higher level and

that’s where this model comes in very

very useful look at history as a series

of episodes where two people have been

asking for the same thing in the through

OTO temple it was the auditor and it was

the bond varium committee members

they were both after money in the

tremaine case it was the arbitrator and

it was those two warring sub sects and

they were both fighting over land over

property and intangible stuff of

identity in the third case it was the

temple authorities it was a devotee and

it was about identity which is in the

middle these are the basic needs that

these two people have to survive for

support of a security and every time

it’s also about how they start thinking

of honoring and meeting these needs are

they thinking about the short term which

is my knee it’s important I don’t care

about your need or are they thinking

about the long term which is your need

as important in fine in helping you find

your need my need will also be met and

that will determine the way that the

need is actually met you either teach

somebody a lesson you punish somebody

for doing something or you nourish

somebody and every time in history you

can find this in Tamil Nadu in India

across the world people and communities

who have put the others need over there

need have invariably looked at

nourishing the relationship people who

have put their need over the need of the

larger community have ended up teaching

others a lessons or punishing others and

lessons short-term success long-term

failure so that’s really the big thought

that I want you to go with that history

Israel

and if you look at it as a series of

eternal and universal needs that all of

us will always have and we all want to

honor these needs they come in conflict

with other people who have different

needs and there we have a choice we have

a choice either to put our need above

theirs and think of the short-term we

have a choice of putting their need over

ours and thinking about the long-term

and a phenomenal resource that we have

that we just don’t use are these lovely

detailed temple inscriptions all of them

translated in English many of them

available for free online I will start a

Sanskrit song in school and the last

line went like this video server Donna

yeah

the gift of knowledge is the greatest

gift that you can give to others and

this is this little gift that I and

you have the choice tonight when you go

to bed you will turn one page of history

in your life you have the choice

tomorrow to wake up and say this TED

talk was just another chronological

event in your life or you can say that

today onwards I am going to look at what

my needs are what the other people’s

needs are and how I’m gonna work with it

short term or long term thank you very

much [Applause]

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